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Phantom Zone (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable concept largely unsourced, or sourced to unreliable / non-independent sources. Jontesta (talk) 02:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment The academic publication Der Gefangene als Phantom has a multi-page chapter with analysis on the historical development, background and symbolism of the phantom zone. So if anyone can find at least one other relevant source, the requirements of WP:N would be fullfilled. Daranios (talk) 15:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep And here it is: Case Study #2: The Phantom Zone is a journal article analyzing the Phantom Zone on multiple levels. Those two secondary sources easily provide enough material to write a full article, i.e. fullfilling WP:WHYN. There are also many more mentions in other secondary sources, though I have not looked into detail how much more material they contain. Daranios (talk) 16:44, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per the claims of @Daranios:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 20:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above. I believe the two sources above are enough to pass GNG. Rhino131 (talk) 13:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I think there's barely enough shown here, alongside scatterings of secondary coverage from a BEFORE, to justify the split. Even so, if kept, the article should be cleaned up. For example, the large lists of inmates are likely not necessary, and notable inmates that are plot relevant can be kept to the plot section. The similar dimensions section also appears to be OR at a glance. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: While not all the inmates of the Phantom Zone have pages on this website, would you prefer that they each be transferred to their respectful List of DC Comics characters pages regardless of this discussion's outcome? --Rtkat3 (talk) 17:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I feel that would flood these lists with a volley of non-notable characters. I can't speak as to who's important or not since I only have surface-level knowledge of DC lore, but I'd oppose the merging of the whole list of inmates, and I'd only merge over ones with an article (If not already listed) or ones who have a large amount of appearances outside of the context of the Phantom Zone. Those with heavy association with the Phantom Zone and are discussed in the article body beyond the list can probably continue to redirect there. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:18, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oa (comics) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable concept that's improperly sourced, without meeting definition of WP:SIGCOV. Jontesta (talk) 02:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per WP:N & WP:PLOT. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 01:04, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Green Lantern Corps, which it is most often associated with (or List of DC Universe locations# Planetary systems) in the spirit of WP:AtD. Oa does appear in a number of secondary sources, like Green Lantern and Philosophy, so it deserves some place on Wikipedia, even if it is not discussed extensively enough for a stand-alone article. Daranios (talk) 10:24, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Green Lantern Corps as there is currently no sourced content to merge, but it is a valid search term and should be redirected somewhere. Rhino131 (talk) 13:22, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Selective Merge to Green Lantern Corps - Agreed with the above that a separate article would not be appropriate here - the fictional planet's notability is tied entirely to its relation to the Green Lantern Corps, and should be covered as part of the same article. While there is an over abundance of overly detailed plot information here that does not need to be merged over, the main GLC article could use a bit more information/context explaining their HQ, so a selective merge of some information would be appropriate. Rorshacma (talk) 15:17, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Xandar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable concept that does not have WP:SIGCOV based on a WP:BEFORE search where this is barely mentioned. Jontesta (talk) 02:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to Nova Corps - Its only notability is being the home world of the Nova Corp, and all of the essential information on the planet is already covered at that article. Per WP:NOPAGE the two topics should very obviously be covered under the same topic rather than being split out into two redundant articles. Rorshacma (talk) 05:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to the planets section of Features of the Marvel Universe. It would be better off being redirected there. --Rtkat3 (talk) 20:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect per RtKat3. I agree that is the best redirect option as the article does not seem to pass GNG. Rhino131 (talk) 13:23, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep after the sourcing improvements made today, as I believe this topic now meets the GNG. BOZ (talk) 19:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - The vast majority of the added sources are extremely trivial (lots of sources that consist of a couple of sentences, and even some one word mentions), are largely from content farms, and many are simply plot recaps of the movies/TV series it appeared in. The most extensive sources added are on the Disney World attraction and the merch you can buy there, not the actual fictional location in the comics. So, I am not convinced at all that any of the multitude of added sources come close to actually consisting of enough significant coverage in reliable sources that would pass the WP:GNG. And it still would not address the WP:NOPAGE concern I brought up above, that the planet has no reason to be covered separately from the actual Nova Corp - even the added sources, poor as they are, are talking about the Nova Corp as essentially the same topic. Rorshacma (talk) 20:16, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Mysticons characters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable list without WP:SIGCOV. The only sources are database style notes about the cast. WP:ATD would be to redirect this to a section in Mysticons. Jontesta (talk) 02:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think it should be deleted. The page, should, instead, be redirected to Mysticons#Cast and characters. I think that would be the best approach. Historyday01 (talk) 01:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uglydolls (TV series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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No independent reliable sources confirm that there will be an upcoming TV series with this title. This is a hoax. GTrang (talk) 18:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge with Uglydoll: or UglyDolls. This is a 2019 project that crashed but it received a lot of coverage, which includes https://www.cartoonbrew.com/box-office-report/stx-wanted-uglydolls-to-be-a-franchise-instead-they-got-a-flop-173711.html https://www.cartoonbrew.com/box-office-report/stx-wanted-uglydolls-to-be-a-franchise-instead-they-got-a-flop-173711.html https://variety.com/2019/film/news/china-alibaba-stxs-uglydoll-franchise-1203105602/ https://www.thewrap.com/stx-entertainment-inks-partnership-with-alibaba-to-produce-finance-more-uglydolls/ etc etc. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Actually, the best target is: Uglydoll#Proposed_television_series. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:16, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect as it's not independently notable. Could merge but there's nothing really to merge that isn't at the target of Uglydoll#Proposed television series. (I guess describing it as an "upcoming" series is maybe hoaxy but also could be a good faith misunderstanding of when the story was from. Skynxnex (talk) 21:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Superman's Metropolis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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I cannot find any evidence of notability for these comics. I did search to find a bit of reception, but I can only find Valnet sources, which are not reliable, and even those are limited. Di (they-them) (talk) 17:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also bundling this with the two comics in the same series, which have the same issues. The Batman one only has one reliable source that I can find.

Batman: Nosferatu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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List of fictional primates in film (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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A vast majority of list is WP:LISTCRUFT and fails WP:LISTCRIT. I would also support a merge back into List of fictional primates if the outcome isn't deletion. SirMemeGod  15:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: as a standard WP:SPLITLIST (and yes, before I hear it should, it does ALSO meet the criterion for lists, see https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/15-famous-movie-monkeys/ or https://www.cbr.com/movie-tv-greatest-apes-ranked/ or https://collider.com/best-movie-monkeys-ranked/ etc,) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:52, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That’s the issue though. This list could easily be merged back into the main article with no length or accessibility issues arising, which is what I assume SPLITLIST concerns. SirMemeGod  21:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It could, maybe, everything is feasible. But should it? SPLITLIST says "Regardless, a list or table should be kept as short as is feasible for its purpose and scope. Too much statistical data is against policy." Note that there are FIVE detailed lists on the page: this one and List of fictional primates in comics, List of fictional primates in television, List of fictional primates in animation List of fictional primates in literature. If you merge back one, you merge back all the other and then you have an awful navigation experience. I would go even further, and suggest to undo the redirect for List_of_fictional_primates_in_video_games but that might be discussed later maybe. I probably won't make any further comments here. Decide what you think best. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge to List of fictional primates per WP:ATD, but this precise of a list fails WP:LISTN. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marvel Super Hero Adventures (comic books) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Comic series fails WP:GNG. GTrang (talk) 04:27, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete or redirect to Marvel Super Hero Adventures#Franchise. Fails WP:NOTDIRECTORY. It's part of a preschool franchise, so it's unlikely to have been discussed in encyclopedia-worthy sources. – sgeureka ^t•c 11:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Methos Chronicles (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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There doesn't appear to be significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. Note: there's a story by Don Anderson also titled "The Methos Chronicles", but it seems to be unrelated to this project, besides sharing the same character and name. And then there's also a "Highlander zine, "The Methos Chronicles," brought to you by Carol Ann Liddiard and Sheila Marie Lane", again, seemingly unrelated. toweli (talk) 14:26, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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