User talk:Arjayay/Archive 7

Reported the user to WP:SPI and just now to WP:EWN. No reason to continue reverting until either the page is semi-protected or the socks blocked. Ravensfire (talk) 17:30, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Anotherclown (talk) 05:22, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Nizamabad,_Telangana#Area. Thanks. Vin09 (talk) 10:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

This band defintely meets WP:BAND notability, notably they are covered nationally and on an international level and have been the focus of a substantial portion of a broadcast on national level tv which HBO counts. In addition to regional coverage they have notable members, namely Hannah Welton. And as an aside for giggle take a look [[1]] (not for notability just enjoyment) (Hell in a Bucket talk) 13:27, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Hell in a Bucket
I did look at the references before tagging the article - I can't see the first one as it is a dead tree publication, but the others have 120, 103 and 52 words respectively - not the "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic" normally required - hence the tag, but not a speedy nomination. I take your comment about HBO - but we could still do with some substantive content - was there a write up about the HBO programme? - Arjayay (talk) 14:01, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter in all reality, the broadcast on HBO is enough to pass the guidelines for bands. For the rest do a simple google search there is loads more coverage out there I just choose not to add it. I choose a history piece, International piece and HBO. I write stubs. I add articles that I know are notable and then I let other editors fill them out. I only plant the seed, thanks for the response I understood why you did it and that's why I came here. I routinely tell new accounts don't remove the tag on your creation lol, just following my own advice. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Andhra Pradesh Express. Thanks. Vin09 (talk) 11:39, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List_of_most_populous_cities_in_India#Requested_move_16_August_2015. Thanks. Vin09 (talk) 06:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with the edit request, however you overlooked the unlinking of the last two words, also you should not have introduced a pipe, as Bell-clapper deformity is a valid title for a future article. 119.76.65.14 (talk) 22:38, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

The fact that the second link is to the same article as the first redirect is not obvious to the reader, who might want to know about that subject but assumes we have no article on it - I half agree with your second point. Of course, as you are such a regular contributor and understand Wikipedia policies, you could create an account and make these changes yourself. - Arjayay (talk) 07:15, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

The second link should be unlinked as it is already linked in a prior section. Why do you half disagree with the second point? 119.76.65.14 (talk) 22:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

No, as explained above, the first use is a hidden link, so people looking for information about that are unaware we have that article - I repeat my question - why do you not create an account and make these changes yourself/ - Arjayay (talk) 07:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

The second link should be unlinked as it is already linked in a prior section. Why do you half disagree with the second point? Thanks (but no thanks) for the user account suggestion. 119.76.65.14 (talk) 08:34, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

  Done by Edgars2007. 119.76.65.14 (talk) 09:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't know what I've done, but thanks Chandelia16, cheers - Arjayay (talk) 18:19, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Mumbai#Megacity. Thanks. Vin09 (talk) 08:51, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page - Arjayay (talk) 10:15, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

What is your problem why are you editing it again and again?? If yoi dont know about khanewal than please stiop doing this Rexwaan (talk) 18:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Rexwaan

As repeatedly explained to you, and User:182.178.200.94, the article clearly states, at both the top and bottom of that list:-

<!-- ONLY ADD A PERSON TO THIS LIST IF THEY ALREADY HAVE AN ARTICLE IN THE ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA -->

Any names without articles, like Rana muhammad aslam will, therefore, be removed - this is the agreed consensus, not just my opinion.

If you think this person meets our notability requirements (please see WP:BIO) than please write the article first - and, when the article has been accepted, their name can then be added. - Arjayay (talk) 18:31, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List_of_cities_in_India_by_population#Census_reference. Thanks. Vin09 (talk) 18:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks tH0r - ( I'd already given the brownies away! ) - Arjayay (talk) 13:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey Arjayay. You might be slightly confused by the ping you just received from me at the Teahouse – I meant to ping the starter of the thread, and when I messed up the ping because I forgot to sign and so went to fix it I copied your username rather than the thread starter, so just ignore:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:00, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

I want this page Astro_(television) as pending accepting for every edit.

Hi User:Vvipkho - this has been done - by another - but please sign your posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) - Arjayay (talk) 14:34, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

How to I delete a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nurulhuda859 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nurulhuda859 - it depends why you think it should be deleted - if it is Mujahidnagar - I have nominated that for deletion as you created it and then blanked it.
If it is another article, please tell me which article and explain why you think it should be deleted - or see Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion although that can be confusing - Arjayay (talk) 14:46, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for help me. Yes I wanted to delete Mujahidnagar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nurulhuda859 (talk • contribs) 15:24, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Arjayay - thanks for your support re OJOM's endless flow of poor English, bad grammar and inaccurate facts re (of all subjects) the French Foreign Legion. As we have both commented he probably means well, and as an apparently French editor he probably has access to sources unavailable to many of us. It just a pity that he has to keep effectively vandalizing what was for a long time a well-written article (though not by me). Buistr (talk) 09:59, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Buistr - I agree, I'm sure he mans well, albeit he is adding to it, re-writing it and adding superfluous links, in a rather promotional, jingoistic, way.
I just wish we could get him to understand that longer is not necessarily better - especially for people on mobile devices, for some of whom the article is now too long to download and read at all.
I think my next move will be to try and reduce the overlinking - some sections, like the Para Foreign Legion subsection of French Foreign Legion#Algerian War 1954 - 1962 are a sea of blue - Arjayay (talk) 10:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Oh merde - the auto spell-corrector changed my edit summary from "sacre bleu" to "scare bleu" - Arjayay (talk) 10:30, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Noticed you have previously dealt with Evangp about changing article names. This user changed Rock City (club) to Rock City (nightclub), claiming it better described the venue. However, it is primarly a music venue which also happens to host club nights = like most music venues. There are many more articles still linking to the original article page. I tried to change it myself, but apparently I don't know how to do it correctly.

Bitterpillsandalcohol (talk) 12:39, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Bitterpillsandalcohol - thanks for the post.
Although it was 14 months ago, I remember that move was - Roundhouse (venue) - which was a clear open and shut case, as there had been a discussion at Talk:Roundhouse (venue) arriving at a consensus which he totally ignored. I see he likes moving pages - he moved 7 pages on 3 July 2014, including Rock City (club) and Roundhouse (venue) - but doesn't do any of the required tidying up afterwards.

Looking at the "What links here" (under Tools in the LH column) at Rock City (nightclub) there are far more links to Rock City (club) that are redirected, than links to Rock City (nightclub) itself.
There are also several redirects via Nottingham Rock City and others via Rock City, Nottingham, Rock City (Nottingham) and Heart of the Midlands Club
Looking at the venues website it is used for a multitude of uses but they don't seem to use any title other than Rock City, so we can't argue that a move is in accordance with the venue's own description.

Assuming you don't prefer Nottingham Rock City I think it should be moved back to Rock City (club) - all of these other titles will be redirected back to the new title. However, to avoid arguments, I have started a discussion about the move at Talk:Rock City (nightclub) - join in and, provided there are no objections, in say 10 days, it can be moved - Arjayay (talk) 14:30, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I'm sorry, but I'm not so experienced in this matters. How to request an edit to a semi-protected page? Best regards Jirka.h23 (talk) 09:35, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jirka.h23 thanks for your post
Although you didn't say, I assume you are talking about Potential superpowers - which currently is not semi-protected, but under Pending Changes which you can find information about here.
However, as you are an WP:Autoconfirmed user, with over 2700 edits in 6 years, you should be able to edit that page, and any semi-protected page, in the normal way. The only pages you will not be able to edit are fully protected pages - see WP:FULL which only an administrator can edit.
If you are having a problem, please tell me which page, and what the problem is, and I will try and help, although I am off for the next 30 hours - but you could ask at WP:Help desk whilst I am away. - Arjayay (talk) 13:12, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I did not express myself well, I meant how to add a request to be this page semi-protected. There was a problem with one anonymous ip that was constantly without explanation tried to change whole article. Or I can lock this page, even if I am not an admin? I deal with such a thing for the first time. Jirka.h23 (talk) 05:34, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

OK Jirka.h23 - I understand now.
The page is already under Pending changes protection, so the edits by the IP will not appear in the page seen by most readers. Only when the changes have been reviewed by an editor with reviewer rights - who will accept or reject the pending changes - will they appear in all copies of the page.
If you think this is inadequate you can apply for full semi-protection at requests for page protection but you will need to show that there have been significant problems - Arjayay (talk) 12:31, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful explanation. However, I think that I will keep this page as it is now, because it's only one user and not various IP users. Thank you for your time. Jirka.h23 (talk) 05:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

List of Alumni

Why do you keep undoing the list? Are you aware of the alumni better than an alumnus? The page is a work in progress and not all entries have a separate wikipedia page, which is the reason I'm building it up from scratch. STOP MAKING CHANGES that really should not be your concern. Thank you!

Hello User:Bakshir

Firstly; please put new posts on talk pages in a separate section - I have added the title.

Secondly; please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp.

Thirdly; please try to understand that someone unconnected with the school is in a much better position to decide what should be included, than someone like you who is connected, as you have a WP:Conflict of interest in editing the article, and cannot do so from a WP:Neutral point of view.

Fourthly; please read WP:OWN - you may have started the article, but you do not own it and it is Wikipedia's criteria that decide what is included or excluded - not you.

Fifthly; please read Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists particularly the section WP:LISTPEOPLE which explains that people must meet Wikipedia:Notability (people).

Finally; All additions to Wikipedia articles should cite reliable, independent sources - additions without such sources will be removed and editors continually adding unsourced material will be blocked.

Thank you - Arjayay (talk) 14:32, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

It is not fair to revert my edits in raj tv because i have provided enough citations to my edits.Please refer- Luise1998 (talk) 14:32, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Why do you keep changing the Ladies Code edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bom97 (talk • contribs) 10:55, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Bom97
This has been discussed at considerable length and agreed at Talk:Ladies' Code - The FACT is that they are no longer members.
Please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp. Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 11:01, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

And please don't make accusations about editors, as in your edit summary "Arjayay probably know nothing about Ladies Code, so Idk why he keeps changing it"
If you look at the edit history, I am the fourth highest editor on that page, with 21 edits - Arjayay (talk) 11:16, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about my rude behaviour... I was just upset, and It was wrong of me to take my anger out on a stranger Bom97 (talk) 15:24, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

OK Bom97 - apology accepted - Arjayay (talk) 15:25, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello Sir, There is question from you that Do you mean that the information i added to religion section of ATWAL page is unsourced. I have changed Noteable people section according to ur guidelines. Thank you

I am new here on wikipedia as editor. Sorry for any misconvinience. Now I am aware of rules of editing of wikipedia

OK User:Tanvir9091 - we were all new editors once, and there are a lot of policies and guidelines - I've been here since 2007 and have over 82,000 edits but there are still many things I don't know
May I suggest you read some of the blue-links in the Welcome ! section of your talk page at User talk:Tanvir9091.
Please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp. - Arjayay (talk) 14:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Can you keep an eye on How Am I Supposed to Live Without You #Michael Bolton version? 115.164.56.118 (talk) 14:56, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Don't know why you selected me, but I have added it to my watchlist - Arjayay (talk) 15:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

You're canvasing that I by changing articles in the same category with the same problem am somehow instituting an "edit war" which I disagree with. If you have a problem with any edit made discuss it in talk page and leave the extreme war rhetoric alone. Thank you and have a good day. Bryce Carmony (talk) 17:10, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Bryce Carmony I think you've got the wrong end of the stick - I am supporting your changes - see my post at ANI - Arjayay (talk) 17:23, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry for jumping down your throat. I'm on edge from a lot of accuasations which made me blindly jump to conclusions. I apologize. Bryce Carmony (talk) 17:31, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

No worries Bryce Carmony - apology accepted - Arjayay (talk) 17:33, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Arjayay. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. I have never used the notice board before, but you must notify a user who is subject to a discussion. I am not sure, but I have notified you since, although I do not mention you at the noticeboard, you were involved in the disagreement. So since I am uncertain of the meaning of notification, I have notified you. 68.100.116.118 (talk) 17:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Arjayay, and thanks for all your great work keeping Wikipedia articles correct and within policy. I know I already pinged you about this article (via its talk page) and I understand you may not want to get involved for a variety of reasons. (Personally I find the article's subject matter very unpleasant and am only working on it because I feel someone needs to.) At the moment only and KewinLiam/KewinRozz (they have two accounts for some unexplained reason, though I've seen no signs of abuse) and I are editing the article, and I am getting nowhere trying to get them to understand and follow Wikipedia policies. Leery of getting into an edit war, I have taken to refraining from correcting KewinRozz's edits, but that's not an optimal solution. If you're not interested in intervening, could you at least suggest other steps I could take? I've actually never been in a near-edit-war situation before, so I'm a bit lost as to what options I have other than edit warring or doing nothing. Thanks in advance for whatever help you can offer. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 18:48, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi User:GrammarFascist - Thanks for the post.
I have been keeping an eye on the article and most, but certainly not all, of the edits appear constructive - adding information to references etc., although "reliable sources" in a topic like this are few and far between. Is there any particular aspect or "mission creep" that is worrying you? - take your time in replying, I'm about to be off for the next 12 hours - Arjayay (talk) 19:31, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Arjayay. I am contacting you regarding my recent changes to the Hoshiarpur. I initially reverted to the version saved by you on 09:11, 20 September 2015‎ with the clear disclaimer "Last known good, statistics may need to be refactored" due to recent inappropriate changes by Spongeboyahoy (talk · contribs) who will likely be blocked if their disruptive pattern of behavior continues. I trust that you have reverted to the correct version, and please accept my apologies if there was any confusion about this. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 22:58, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

No worries User:Yamaguchi先生, rather than just reverting Spongeboyahoy's last edit I went back to the census and used the actual figures. The numbers had been changed several times, and as often happens in Indian articles the numbers are randomly increased. The article had said "189,731 out of which 99267 were males and 90044" which does not add up. The actual census states "168,443 out of which 88,290 were males and 80,153" - Arjayay (talk) 11:51, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Making unsupported statements more conditional by adding "claims that" or similar is not weasel words, it's an attempt to make an already promotional article less so. WP:NPOV is policy, not a personal opinion. Giving the edit warring on this article, significant changes must be discussed on the talk page. It's probably only a matter of time before I block someone for edit warring rather than talking Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:38, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

OK, User:Jimfbleak I still don't see how it is WP:NPOV to state the purpose as "Claimed to be betterment of Disempowered" without a reliable source - but, as shown by my leaving the last revert, I'll agree to disagree. - Arjayay (talk) 16:47, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Please you do say me.?

− How can i create a new Wikipedia article and page. ?? User:Hunter Arjunsinh 17:11, 2 October 2015‎

Answered at your talk page - Arjayay (talk) 19:37, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey, why did you remove all the pictures and some of the text from Ali Ashfaq?? Most of them has citation. But now, I have made almost everything's cite. Please don't delete/remove them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alishaahid (talk • contribs) 03:34, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello, how should we properly cite information for changes we would like to make on the Religion page (semi-protected) as part of a course project? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Religion301 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Religion301, please put new posts at the bottom and please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp.
The direct answer to your question is at Help:Referencing for beginners
However, the Religion page is particularly sensitive, and, as has already been explained to you at Talk:Religion, anything other than very trivial changes will need consensus before they are added.
This is NOT a good page to try and edit as part of a "course project". - Arjayay (talk) 08:21, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice! I did find out about it... but by then it was too late. Is there a bot that could mass-correct the misspelling? WhisperToMe (talk) 08:27, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi WhisperToMe - not that I know of - Wikipedia seems nervous of bots correcting spellings as there are so many "correct" misspellings - in quotations, foreign languages, rap-songs etc.
As stated above I have adopted Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/R so can tell you there were no uses of "retreved" yesterday (I'm having trouble telling you this as my spellcheck keeps correcting it)
I don't mind tidying them up as long as the incoming flow has stopped. - Arjayay (talk) 08:35, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

All gone - Arjayay (talk) 08:54, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello,

Yes I saw you remove some of what I'd written about the line-up issue and I'll admit "fair enough" as it was speculative. I had actually forgotten I'd done the top bit anyway as I've been more concerned with getting the new track listing correct. I've completed now what I think is sufficient to add the re-release of the album with a link to such information. I do mention the fact Micky Jones was the only member to never leave the band, which any fan should know, and the other information I personally do not consider "speculative" with the way I have stated it.

I hope we can be in agreement with this as Ive restarted Editing music on Wiki after a few years of not being active and couldn't reinstate my old log in.

I'm and Australian musician and was a "roadie" for years also and have a somewhat semi professional part in the industry still and started editing certain music pages as they were just plain wrong, IE the ACDC album For Those About To Rock does not have We Salute You as part of the actual album title but is part of the song title and this was a disagreement with the original author that came down to they are an Australian band and the pressings outside of Australia are irrelevant to authenticity of the original.

I'm an easy going person but I take a very strong stance on music that's Australian being represented by non-Australians as the correct version if it differs from the Australian version. I have a pathological hatred of non indigenous peoples of the band in question being represented as factually more correct by someone who is a fan instead of fellow citizen, and as such I accept your removal of my comments without issue and don't quite recall why I was even editing the top part of the page, as all I was there to do was extend the new release, so my apologies.

Hope we can collaborate in good standings and all the best.

Nuro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuro Dragonfly (talk • contribs) 00:21, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi Nuro Dragonfly
Wikipedia has become more "encyclopedic" in the last few years, so I have removed your question "Is it the best live album they did? Well that's for others to judge...." as we simply don't put things like that in articles these days. {And anyway it wasn't IMHO, that was Greasy Truckers Party)
I saw "Son of Man" last month, with Deke Leonard, George Jones (Micky's son) and Bob Richards (who filled in on AC/DCs videos for their latest album), who were also in Man for some years - all the old numbers and a few new ones - brilliant - Arjayay (talk) 18:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I deleted that IP's edit request in Talk:Banana, as, after reviewing the IP's previous edits suggest the request was made in an attempt to troll other edits.--Mr Fink (talk) 23:21, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Arjayay. I just wanted to follow up with you to see whether you were going to follow up at Talk:Guns N' Roses; I found several "dead-tree" sources a while back, but so far only one person on the "are" side has responded to what I found and so I'm reluctant to presume consensus based on several people on the "is" side not having changed their minds. If you're tired of the issue and don't wish to comment further, that's fine and I'll seek follow-up comment from someone else. I'm coming to you first because it was your idea to use print references. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 19:31, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Why do estate agents write such turgid tosh? Sigh.TheLongTone (talk) 17:07, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi TheLongTone - thanks for your help there - I had to stop, to avoid breaking 3RR (must warn them about that)

To answer your question:-

Because they get paid by the word? - oh no - they are called PR "executives" aren't they

Because they think it is clever, but have never read The Emperor's New Clothes, and wouldn't know an "aspect" from an "apex" even if they were kicked in one and went over the other.

It was so blatant - as my first edit summary - an article (and editor) to keep an eye on - Arjayay (talk) 17:22, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I forgot to add my usual description of Estate Agents as "second-hand toilet salesman" - This usually confuses them, so they ask why?
"Well, every property you sell has a toilet, and most of the properties are not new, so you are selling second-hand toilets" - Arjayay (talk) 19:52, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Wrote a bunch of code to change the citations on the Sully Historic Site article from the current version to the proposed formatting. Cannot implement this without consensus. Would very much appreciate your opinion at the talk page. Abel (talk) 02:10, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi, you have reverted my changes to this page twice, but I'm unclear why you feel these links deserve inclusion.

The link to www.atvnetworklimited.co.uk claims to be the 'official' website, It's not. It can't be, because ATV ceased to exist in the early 1980s. Google's cache suggests It is in fact the website belonging to the fan club of one programme formerly made by ATV - Crossroads. If it deserves a link (and that's a big if), then that link should be on the Crossroads article page, not this one. The link to www.atvtoday.co.uk is also not relevant. Again Google's cache suggests It is just a general media news website run by the same fan club. (As an aside, I'm still getting the 403 error, on multiple browsers - that alone suggests it might fail the WP:LINKSTOAVOID test.

Neither website is the 'official' ATV website, and as neither justifies inclusion in the article I'm going to remove them again. If you feel that they do deserve inclusion - maybe we should take it to the article's talk page? Cheers. DrFrench (talk) 23:55, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Coimbatore-Salem MEMU is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Coimbatore-Salem MEMU until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 05:33, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for reaching out to me. Am new to this. Started to contribute to the school page as I noticed the initial information provided was very brief. I contacted the school and received permission to expand the content. I mirrored the content using the Wikipedia pages of 2 other notable international schools in the region as a guideline. Will attempt to edit again soon keeping to guidelines you have provided. Thank you. LeoLeBlanc (talk) 07:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

could you tell me that what ever i edit is wrong! sir I am from the same community! and i know well my history you people trying to get disturbed and create new history this is the fact. because you people trying to ling with ludiyana from punjab and many more! when i try to give exmple Rani Avanti bhai who is the ruler and lodhi's queen you people deny it! i dint know which fact you useing! Is Rani Avanti Bhai not a Rajput or Kshatriya. And i dont know where you bring this rowsell.My Advice is if you once attande the Akhil Kshatirya Lodhi Sabha its good to make your knowledge more

So my Request is to do more Search and Please make it correct.If Possible to you guys.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prajput27 (talk • contribs) 12:17, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Prajput27
Please try to understand that Wikipedia is not at all interested in what you "know", or what you find-out, which are considered original research.
Wikipedia is only interested in what has already been published in reliable, independent, sources. All the information in Wikipedia articles should be verifiable, and references must be cited to show where the information came from, and where it can be checked – but that is NOT to say it should simply be copied – as that would be a copyright violation.

As it stands at the moment, the article has 7,825 bytes long and has 15 references, the version you last changed it to has 8410 bytes and only 6 references, so you are adding information without any sources (which is not allowed) and removing information with sources (which is also not allowed).

Furthermore, what you added appears to have been copied directly from this facebook page . Facebook (along with Twitter, Wikipedia, Gutenberg self-publishing, World Public Library and anything the public can edit) is not a reliable source. Whilst copying anything directly is a copyright violation, so there are 2 reasons why that cannot be added.

What you need are reliable sources, such as government publications, books or reliable newspapers (although many newspapers are not reliable). Forget everything you "know", only include what those reliable sources state, and cite the references (see Help:Referencing for beginners for how to do that. - Arjayay (talk) 13:35, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Please protect article vaddi others adding wrong information. WP MANIKHANTA 12:22, 10 December 2015 (UTC) WP MANIKHANTA 12:22, 10 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WP MANIKHANTA (talk • contribs)

WP MANIKHANTA
The ONLY person I can see "vandalising" the Vaddi article is YOU, repeatedly trying to add protection templates to an unprotected article - as here, here, here here and here
This achieves absolutely nothing - as shown by the fact that you can still edit the article - please stop wasting everybody's time.
If you want to have the page protected, you must apply at Requests for page protection, but at the moment the page is not being vandalized - except by you - so if any action is taken - it is likely to be to block you - Arjayay (talk) 12:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

@Arjayay: Can also refer User_talk:Vin09#Thanks as well.--Vin09 (talk) 13:59, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

hellow sir are you checking my patience. adding history to vaddi is true the sources at vaddi has relevent info please watch it and add history. if source does not has info then say to me. why wikipedia object true stories. other articles are differ from soures watch it kindly but my info is 100% correct please add history to vaddi.WP MANIKHANTA 13:19, 13 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WP MANIKHANTA (talk • contribs)

WP MANIKHANTA:-
Firstly, please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp
Secondly, you are trying everyone's patience by repeatedly making unsourced additions. and vandalizing the Vaddi page - it is not just me who has said that - your attempt to have the page protected merited the response "if there's any vandalizing being done, it's by you"

Please try to understand that Wikipedia is not at all interested in what you "know", or what you find-out, which are considered original research.
Wikipedia is only interested in what has already been published in reliable, independent, sources. All the information in Wikipedia articles should be verifiable, and references must be cited to show where the information came from, and where it can be checked – but that is NOT to say it should simply be copied – as that would be a copyright violation.

Shouting "THIS IS EXACT HISTORY THIS IS TRUE IT CAN BE IN WIKIPEDIA" proves absolutely nothing - I can shout "THE EARTH IS FLAT" but that proves nothing either.
If it is true, there must be verifiable reliable, independent, sources that you can cite to show that it is true - the fact that you are not citing such sources only suggests that it is not true. Please note that Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia, Gutenberg self-publishing, World Public Library and anything else the public can edit are not reliable sources, nor are mirrors of such sites.

Finally, please do not refer to other pages - we know that many pages on Wikipedia are not ideal, but that is no reason to have more bad content - please see Wikipedia:Other stuff exists for why this argument is invalid. Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 13:57, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

@Arjayay: Could you give same kind of explanation like above at User_talk:Rizwanmahai#City limits.--Vin09 (talk) 17:21, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Vin09 - he hasn't made any edits since 8 December, so he may have understood. I have added Nizamabad, Telangana his talkpage and contributions to my watch list - I will comment if there are further changes - Arjayay (talk) 18:04, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Just to let you know. I'm not wishing to promote AXELOS at all. It is, simply, the place where the publications are owned - they were produced by the Office of Government Commerce, but sold, in part, to AXELOS.

The links were just to support the book references. If it's better, as you've now shown me, simply to cite the books, then I'm perfectly happy to do that.

The only reason I created the page 'AXELOS' was that I wasn't able to find its company page - later I discovered it was there, but called 'Axelos' - the company doesn't use the lower case.

Fustbariclation (talk) 05:32, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

OK Fustbariclation - Thanks for the explanation.
As stated at Template:Cite book The URL parameter in is for a "URL of an online location where the text of the publication can be found" not for a link to "booksellers, such as Amazon.com".
As for the capitals, as explained at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official" " - although Wikipedia breaks its own rules at eBay - Arjayay (talk) 08:29, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Could you check User:MANI18 with User:WP MANIKHANTA?--Vin09 (talk) 10:43, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Vin09 :- using the The duck test I'm sure they are the same user - although only an admin with WP:CheckUser rights could confirm that.
However, so far, they have not done anything wrong - MANIKHANTA's last edit was at 13.19 on 13 December and all of MANI18's edits have been today.
As there is no overlap, and MANIKHANTA has never been blocked, they are not breaking any rules - people sometimes forget their password, or opt for a Clean start - although coming back to carry on the same edit warring is not a "clean-start"
If they start using both accounts, for edit warring, to get around the 3RR rule or comment/vote on proposals then they would be breaking the rules
I've added them to my watchlist - Arjayay (talk) 11:49, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Vin09 I've given MANI18 a sock warning - so they can't say they were not warned if they do start operating both accounts - Arjayay (talk) 11:56, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Fine.--Vin09 (talk) 11:59, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I am Jayveerwala. i have always a source for list of kathi's princely states. I have a book named "Vala ane kathi rajvansho" by najbhai harsoorbhai wala and all of kathi dynasty in please re-add the information, i will give a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayveerwala (talk • contribs) 10:09, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jayveerwala
Firstly, please put new posts at the bottom and please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp.
I have no idea whether your book is a reliable source, when was it published? Most books published under British rule are not considered to be reliable sources.
Your edits also removed material which was referenced to a reliable source - please do not delete that again without discussion on the talk page.
You also added a list of "Notable people" - in Wikipedia, the simplest way to asses whether someone is notable is whether they already have their own Wikipedia article.
Please only include people with their own article and link to it, so it shows in blue. If they do not have their own article then Write the article first, before adding their names.
If you want to get the information back you can undo my edit, using the page history, but you must re-install the previously cited information and not add Non-notable people.
- Arjayay (talk) 10:35, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Arjayay
Thank you for your kind information, As a new user i didn't know how to use talk page but i will remember it for next time.
Now i want to say you that my book didn't published in british time.it was published between 1980 to 1990.
So i believe that it is right reference.
-Jayveerwala (talk) 10:53, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

So for 0 reason all my edits with a %100 reliable source on Clan Innes was deleted by you! It took me ages to do that! I had to wait 4 days so i could upload an image! If you need reliable sources you could have looked at the two i added! I also know all the facts about clan Innes because i am a member of Clan Innes and i am also editing the page by what the Innes Clan Society leader Joeseph Innes has said, He knows more about the clan then anyone other than The Duke Of Roxburghe and the Lord Lyon! I request you undo the deletion! LakeBINNES (talk) 18:51, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

LakeBINNES - What "reliable sources" ? - you did not cite any sources whatsoever.
When you started the article (here) was 303 words (readable prose size) and was supported by 3 references, when you finished (here) it was 1240 words with exactly the same three references.
What you "know", and what the clan leader has said, are both totally unacceptable to Wikipedia, as neither can be verified, whilst the clan leader is not a independent source.
Everything you add should be supported by citations to published independent, reliable sources, or it is likely to be deleted. - Arjayay (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

I did give sources 2 books Ane Account Of The Familie Of Innes. And "The Inneses of Innes, A historical" "Ans account of the familie of innes" is even aproved by The Duke of Roxburghe the would-be Chief who knows more information on the clan than anyone considering his direct family line can be traced to the founder of the damn clan. And the other book was written by a person who has spent his whole life researching the clan! I had at the bottom of the page a box that said sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (LakeBINNES talk • contribs) 20:34, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

LakeBINNES
Please try to understand that we are not interested whether a document is "approved by The Duke of Roxburghe the would-be Chief" or not. Given the difficulty of anyone so closely connected having a neutral point of view, such an "approval" is probably of negative benefit.
As stated above, Wikipedia is only interested in what has been written by notable, independent authors, and published in reliable sources, such as books by major publishers, or newspapers/magazines with a reputation for fact-checking.

Turning to your two "sources":-
"Ane Account Of The Familie Of Innes" by Duncan Forbes of Culloden (1698) is such an ancient document, that unless it has been verified by a modern historian as being totally reliable, it could not be accepted. Documents of that era are almost never considered reliable, most having been written to promote a cause, or to please whoever sponsored them. Furthermore, the publisher, the Spalding Club was an antiquarian and text publication society, not a mainstream publisher.
"The Inneses of Innes: an historical perspective" by Joseph Innes - To quote the only book review I can find, here "This book is marked ‘Manuscript Copy’ and was privately published by the author in 2011 and is numbered ’15 of 20’". Self-published books are not acceptable as sources, as they contravene our policy of no original research. whilst this appears to be the only "publication" by Joseph Innes, who does not appear to be a notable historian, but a "family researcher, with an interest in the Innes family name in particular."
Neither book appears to be a reliable source, which Wikipedia requires, to support additions such as those you made at Clan Innes.

If you do find some reliable sources, please see WP:Referencing for beginners for how to cite references. - Arjayay (talk) 09:37, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Their is no %100 reliable information on the subject anyway! I dont even care anymore i cant be bothered with your rubbish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LakeBINNES (talk • contribs) 10:30, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

LakeBINNES - If the information is not 100% reliable, it definitely shouldn't be in the article - Arjayay (talk) 10:34, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Then i guess you have to delete the whole page then beacause the only thing confirmed on that page is the founder, The tartans (that you deleted), The badge, The historical seat, The fact the clan supported the Government during the 75 jacobite rising, The fact that everything i added was %100 confirmed by the lord lyon. But hey i no longer care. DONT reply, If you do you're wasting your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LakeBINNES (talk • contribs) 10:39, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Not best writer and sometimes do not know when to stop. If you could make addition to Oulton, Norfolk, because I am from New Mexico, USA, not East Anglia, and tracing family, which Robert Elwald is name of first chief of Clan Elwald (Ellot-Elliot). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.161.22.88 (talk) 20:53, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello - 75.161.22.88 please understand, we never include things that may be "likely", as this is just speculation, we only include things that have been cited in reliable sources as being facts - Arjayay (talk) 21:03, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

What if I provide the links to the red pages ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Turyalazamkhan (talk • contribs) 11:18, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Turyalazamkhan
Personally, as I explained at Talk:List of television stations in Pakistan I would like there to be no redlinks, but that would require other people to agree with me to achieve consensus.
Currently, you could add detailed references, to show they meet the notability requirements of extensive coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, not just their inclusion in a list.
However, it also needs to be "reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future", as no-one has written the articles so far, so that will be difficult to show - someone may think it is not reasonable, and delete them again.
Are you going to write the articles? if so, then please write the article first, and add them to the list after the article has been written. - Arjayay (talk) 11:48, 22 December 2015 (UTC).

Ok sure I will create the articles thank you

@Arjayay:Could you comment at Talk:Visakhapatnam#Area_and_population.--Vin09 (talk) 13:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Vin09 - I'm suffering internet connection problems at the moment, and several of the links keep dropping out
I'm also having trouble exactly understanding the argument - especially when it wanders off to talk about Hyderabad
I'll try again later, when I should have a better connection. - Arjayay (talk) 14:06, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Not a problem, he is not interested I guess in prolonging the discussion.--Vin09 (talk) 14:07, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the other day being a bit of a d**k, I was sick and did the page all day and was annoyed that i couldnt just go on it and add citations. Ive added some stuff that is %100 reliable to the page WITH citations. And im also going to add some stuff to do with tartan tonight and ill ad a citaiton to the Lord Lyon Tartan Register. Can i add to the page that someone has done some research and their is a chance "Berowlad" was the youngest son ofnthe "Erembalden Clan" of Flanders? Their is no %100 proof he was but research has show he could of been. Thanks, And again im sorry for being an ass LakeBINNES (talk) 13:32, 23 December 2015 (UTC) LakeBINNES (talk) 13:32, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi LakeBINNES - apology accepted. I understand it is annoying to see one's work deleted, but we try to ensure only reliable, verifiable, information is added.
I have not had a chance to check your sources (I'm suffering intermittent internet connection problems), but I note you are adding External links in the infobox, rather than references.
Please see WP:Referencing for beginners for how to cite references properly, and please change those external links into references - thanks - Arjayay (talk) 13:49, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for accepting and I will check it out now then re-add them. Thank you :) LakeBINNES (talk) 14:23, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

LakeBINNES as already explained above, you cannot use "The Inneses of Innes: an historical perspective", by Joseph Innes, as a reference, for any information, as it is not a reliable source, but original research, which is unacceptable - Arjayay (talk) 14:44, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I will remove it, I will try find another source for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LakeBINNES (talk • contribs) 15:14, 23 December 2015 (UTC) I have removed the book and Allied clans, But kept the Rival Clan because many sources talk about their fued so i replaced his book with a book called The Culture of Protestantism in Early Modern Scotland that briefly mentions the "Bloody Vespers". Do i have to use citations for everything? Their is alot of information but I cant allways find the original source! LakeBINNES (talk) 15:39, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

LakeBINNES Every important fact, and anything likely to be questioned, needs to be referenced, so people can look it up for themselves and verify that the information is correct.
Please note you need to supply an author/year/publisher for "The Culture of Protestantism in Early Modern Scotland" and full access details of "Scottish Register of Tartans"
You have also closed "Scottish Register of Tartans" with <\ref> instead of </ref> which is why everything below it is duplicated, but half-size, - Arjayay (talk) 16:10, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I cant really give "full access details" because its meant for the whole block of text because I got all my information from that website but different pages on the website unless i was to link every page i read. And I added a publisher and date, Its reliable and wasnt self-published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LakeBINNES (talk • contribs) 16:31, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Ive done some research on the book by Duncan Forbes written in the 1600s, It was re-published and eddited by Cosmo Innes who was a historian in the mid 1800s would i be able to use it as a source? LakeBINNES (talk) 02:23, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi Arjay, thanks for your help with the problem editor on the Clan Eliott page. Yesterday I reported his latest IP adress to the admin for edit warring and I did include his previous IP and usernames. Whether that is what resulted in the page being semi-protected I don't know, because the admin have not confirmed a result on the board where I reported him for edit warring here: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Maybe you could help out with this discussion as well: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clan Crozier. The article in question has been created by the same problem editor on the Clan Eliott page. Cheers.QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:06, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi QuintusPetillius
The Semi-protection was requested by 2601:188:0:ABE6:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 as can be seen in the Requests for Page Protection history [here] - although I seconded the nomination.
The Lawismarkellot account and the series of IPs, all hail from Albuquerque, New Mexico, so there is no question as to their being the same person - not that one could mistake the "style".
The editors additions have also been deleted from Clan Armstrong [here] with an edit summary of "prev version was gibberish".
I first came across one of the IPs at Oulton, Norfolk (see 4 posts above). It looks like a case of Competence is required but they are difficult cases to "prove" - Arjayay (talk) 13:01, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Lawismarkellot; England is foreign to me; Can not pick relative or were their home is, but in Scotland from Gorrenberry, near where Infinis is planning a wind farm on ancestral lands next to Hermitage Castle. In a Danish, Yorkshire Riding which became Rimington, north of Pendle Hill, then of Northfolk, Oulton and Beckhall. Dan banished from both kingdoms in 1608, so family went to Tullykelter, Ulter, then indentured Cromwellian Scot to the American Plantation. It has been over 350 years since family lived in Ulster, 400 Years for Scotland, and 700 years for England. So England is foriegn, and going onto Danish-Germany they seem to understand me better.

Check; http://gorrenberry.com/proto-germanic-r-u106-haplogroup-dna-elwald-elliot/ May explain difficulties coming back to my homes with so much time being past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.235.204 (talk) 04:37, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

"more power with with minimal change". Oops on my part. 71.41.210.146 (talk) 11:16, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

No worries - although it might be worth using a spellchecker - most will pick up double words - Arjayay (talk) 11:38, 29 December 2015 (UTC)