User:Remsense/XfD log

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1. Progressive Party (United States, 1912–1920): nominated at RM; New name: Bull Moose Party 01:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Easily the WP:COMMONNAME. Ancient mumbling ignorant of that policy does not contested consensus make.
2. Comparison of US and Chinese Military Armed Forces: nominated at AfD 00:04, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Seems wholly synthetic and redundant as far as lists go.
3. Talk:East Asian Gothic typeface: nominated at RM; New name: Gothic typeface 18:58, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: The only worry may be conflation with the items listed at Gothic script, but I think this is a safe WP:NATURAL decision.
4. Chinese language and varieties in the United States: nominated at RM; New name: Chinese languages in the United States 09:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: I understand why both "language" and "varieties" are offered in the title, but it's redundant and imperfect any way you slice it: I see "languages" as the best compromise between "language", "varieties", etc.

1. Template talk:Transliteration: nominated at RM; New name: Template:Translit 18:25, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: The extra eration really contributes to a readability issue when there are lists, tables, or any preponderance of this template in an article—I get that {{transl}} is undesirably ambiguous, but frankly: the shorter the better. I would even prefer {{tlit}} if other people will let me get away with it.
     No one in the 2022 move discussion mentioned an explicit issue with {{translit}}, so hopefully folks would be okay with it now.
2. Category:Independant Native American countries: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified AvailableViking (talk · contribs) 22:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Or plausibly, just a rename to correct the spelling error. Redundant at best with other categories, the notion of a "country" as we understand it seems dangerously nebulous and unattested in several member articles here.
3. Talk:Sheng nu: nominated at RM; New name: Sheng nü 03:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Per the reasoning of several previous moves, the predominant Hanyu Pinyin romanization system treats nü and nu as different syllables, and I do not feel WP:COMMONNAME can be enough of a reason to keep the confusing, unsystematic name in this case.

1. 君: nominated at RfD; Target: Japanese honorifics (notified); notified Dbachmann (talk · contribs) 23:07, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: This character functions as a pronoun and honorific in Literary Chinese, whence the Japanese sense. I do not just want to redirect it to a Chinese article, but I don't think a disambiguation page is warranted either.
2. Ancient United States: nominated at RfD; Target: Pre-Columbian era (notified); notified Blaze The Movie Fan (talk · contribs) 08:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: It's a bad redirect, folks.
3. Category:Chinese retired emperors: nominated at CfD (CfR); renaming to Category:Chinese emperors who abdicated; notified วรุฒ หิ่มสาใจ (talk · contribs) 06:45, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: More clear, consistent with related categories.
4. Template:Electronic writing: nominated at TfD; notified Doseiai2 (talk · contribs) 11:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Pretty unacceptable in its current state in its purpose within Template:List of writing systems.
5. Talk:Sino-Xenic pronunciations: nominated at RM; New name: Sino-Xenic pronunciations 14:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: This article would seem mighty shallow if it were merely about phonology, surely it's also about the morphemes in the context of the sinographosphere?
6. Talk:One half: nominated at RM; New name: One-half 13:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Per MOS:FRAC: Spelled-out fractions are hyphenated
     Like, it looks a bit weird to me, but I'm sure it will look normal as an article title if I keep staring at it.

1. ICanHazPDF: nominated at AfD; notified Lawsonstu (talk · contribs) 15:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: A hashtag used 4 times in 2015 with two fluff pieces written about it fails GNG.
2. Ming (typefaces): nominated at RM; New name: Ming typefaces 02:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Per WP:NATURAL.
3. Indo-European ablaut: nominated at RM; New name: Ablaut 20:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: It's the natural WP:COMMONNAME in English, being adequately specific and more concise.
4. Category:Languages with ISO 639-3 code: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified Gjs238 (talk · contribs) 10:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason': Largely redundant, as all major languages and most languages with millions of speakers have one. If we do decide this is a useful category, rename to Category:Languages with ISO 639-3 codes.
5. Talk:Macau: nominated at RM; New name: Macao 14:27, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Per the preliminary discussions above, it seems there's actually a solid case on WP:COMMONNAME (+ WP:OFFICIAL) grounds for this rename. Let's see where it goes.
6. Category:Pioneers of Israel: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified Dag21902190 (talk · contribs) 03:14, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: This seems like it could plausibly renamed, refocused, or deleted. Obviously it's a coherent group, but is it an encyclopedic one as it stands?

1. Sporgery: nominated at AfD; notified Desertphile (talk · contribs) 22:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Wholly non-notable, and seemingly not a clearly independent concept. I think this article only exists for the very incidental Scientology connection.
2. Unequal treaty: nominated at RM; New name: Unequal treaties 17:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Usually referred to in the plural, per WP:NCPLURAL
3. Unequal treaty: nominated at RM; New name: Unequal treaties 18:01, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Usually referred to in the plural as a collection, per WP:NCPLURAL.
4. Unequal treaty: nominated at RM (technical); New name: Unequal treaties 18:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Usually referred to in the plural as a collection, per WP:NCPLURAL.
5. Unequal treaty: nominated at RM; New name: Unequal treaties 18:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Usually referred to in the plural as a collection, per WP:NCPLURAL.
6. Wu shu (historical text): nominated at RM; New name: Book of Wu 19:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Seems in line with each of our other dynastic history articles.

1. Talk:Family tree of Chinese monarchs (ancient): nominated at RM; New name: Family tree of Chinese monarchs (before 256 BCE) 09:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Likewise:
     * (early) → (221 BCE – 453 CE)
     * (middle) → (453–1227)
     * (late) → (1227–1912)
     I know each of these boundaries are problematic (Genghis Khan is included in "late" for example, but frankly the core of it is correct and it would help guide readers much better than "early", "middle", and "late".
     The current
2. Manchukuo Government: nominated at AfD; notified CaliforniaAliBaba (talk · contribs) 10:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: This seems to have been a joke in 2009, and now it's over. WP:N isn't temporary, but 2/3rds of the sources aren't reliable or aren't primary about the topic, leaving what I count as three-to-five bemused NOWNews/Ming Pao pieces that read more like Buzzfeed than Buzzfeed News. Maybe that sounds like enough to others, but given the facile substance I really don't think they need an article.
3. Chinese character pianpangs: nominated at RM; New name: Pianpang 02:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Per WP:CRITERIA of naturalness and concision. No need to disambiguate like with "component" or "radical".
4. William Grange: nominated at AfD; notified Wgrange (talk · contribs) 06:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Would seem to fail WP:PROF cleanly, if not for their distinguished chair at the University of Vienna. Even so, I haven't been able to find a single scrap of secondary coverage, so that shouldn't be enough to save them. That they have no German Wikipedia article despite a good portion of their work being in German suggests I'm not missing anything across the language divide either. As an aside, the article appears to have been written all but exclusively by the subject themselves.
5. Basahan: nominated at AfD; notified ShiminUfesoj (talk · contribs) 15:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Just a duplicate article of Baybayin.
6. Bīn: nominated at RfD; Target: Been (notified); notified Makemi (talk · contribs) 15:10, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: What the! Should redirect to Bin instead, surely.
7. Li Fang-Kuei: nominated at RM; New name: Li Fanggui 06:34, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: WP:NC/ZH. Ngrams seems to sign off on this, and the other reason given for its move to the Wade–Giles rendering in 2008 is irrelevant.
8. Talk:Ancient near eastern cosmology: nominated at RM; New name: Cosmology in the ancient Near East 12:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Or at the very least Ancient Near Eastern cosmology—I have no idea how this hasn't gotten properly capitalized yet.
9. Category:Nationalist Heads of State or Government: nominated at CfD (CfD); notified MaliMail (talk · contribs) 07:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: An unhelpful intersection: any ideology (esp. one as vague as this) hasn't been intersected with occupation, and it should stay that way. It's not more helpful than merely Category:Nationalists.
10. Crossing the inner German border during the Cold War: nominated at RM; New name: Crossing the inner German border 03:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
    • Reason: WP:CONCISE, mainly.

1. Kangxi radical: nominated at RM; New name: Kangxi radicals 22:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Another Chinese-language article about a subject usually referred to collectively that's been misassigned a singular title.
2. Talk:Republic of China (1912–1949): nominated at RM; New name: Republican China 00:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Primarily per the naturalness and concision WP:CRITERIA. The use of "Republican China" as a term referring to this periodization and its associated state is simply ubiquitous in English-language sources, such as The Cambridge History of China.^[1] By contrast, merely "Republic of China" is not used as a term referring specifically to the pre-1949 period, so a parenthetical disambiguator is arguably inappropriate. On that note, this change would also more elegantly distinguish the scope of this article from that of Taiwan.
     This specific move was previously suggested in 2018: suffice it to say that I did not find the opposing arguments convincing. Heading a few potential objections off at the pass: firstly, historiographical labels function perfectly well as article titles in situations like these, cf. July Monarchy, Revolutionary Catalonia. Secondly, several editors argued the terms are not synonymous, or that "Republican China" refers only to the mainland during this period; these seem clearly dubious to me, and no further explanation or evidence for such distinctions was provided in the previous discussion.
     One final note: I was motivated to pose this RM as the result an offsite discussion with Generalissima, who was asking about the current naming situation and pondering about starting an RM herself; I then offered to do it instead.

References

1. Leading-tone: nominated at RM; New name: Leading tone 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Is and has always been the most common form; the present title looks like either an idiosyncratic mistake or the adjectival form.

1. Cantonese Pinyin: nominated at RM; New name: ILE romanization of Cantonese 03:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
   • Reason: Per above, whose author I thank for pointing out just how poorly this article is named. I am frankly not sure about the proposed title, but it seems serviceable. If it's not ideal, better considered suggestions are encouraged.