Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pacific Century (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Those editors who want to create a Redirect from this page title to an appropriate target article or even a disambiguation page are free to do so. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article substantially falling afoul of WP:OR, with no sourcing to demonstrate the core concept and is simply rampant author description of the term. Only sections sourced are three lines about the Obama administration's foreign policy that referred to "America's Pacific Century" and would therefore be relevant on article's about his presidency. Rambling Rambler (talk) 19:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Politics, Economics, Asia, China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, India, Oceania, Australia, New Zealand, and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as per nom. WP:TRIVIA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DerbyCountyinNZ (talk • contribs) 20:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into Asian Century. This appears to be simply an alternative term for the same concept preferred by some Obama administration officials. Dan • ✉ 21:34, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: after reading both cited sources, I realize I've given this article too much credit. There isn't even a single mention of the term that isn't qualified by "America's," so the unqualified term "Pacific Century" is completely concocted by this article alone. The sources cited are not really notable and are about US policy, and don't fit into Asian Century as I initially proposed. Dan • ✉ 21:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - WP:OR. See above comments. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 22:11, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Asian Century per my arguments in last AfD (the term is mentioned there, redirects are WP:CHEAP). The current version of the article is a crappy OR mess that can be TNTed, so I don't mind if there is hard deletion, although why bother? Soft redirect will do. In prior AfD there was a claim of a good source, but the link is 404, and the editor who added it did not provide full bibliography, nor, obviously did anyone try to rewrite this mess. PS. I see Mx. Granger did try to clean that up, but I fear it was just a waste of time. Washing trash does not make it less trashy, this needs to be written up from scratch. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:03, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: WP:OR mess needs WP:TNT. TarnishedPath^talk 06:21, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, or maybe replace with a disambiguation page for The Pacific Century, Pacific Century Motors, and Pacific Century Cyberworks. I agree that this is not a notable topic, but it may be a reasonable search term for those topics. I don't think it should be redirected to Asian Century, because I don't know of any sources indicating that the term "Pacific Century" is used in a similar way to the term "Asian Century". —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:36, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: WP:GNG. Even if remedial action was possible, it is simply not notable enough to warrant a page. Spinifex&Sand (talk) 00:31, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or redirect to Asian Century. As I mentioned in the last AfD, there are a number of Google Scholar results for the term "Pacific Century," many independent of the term "Asia-Pacific Century." The term goes back to at least the 1980s. The article by Rosemary Foot and Andrew Walter includes a useful definition of the term and some history. --Enos733 (talk) 04:56, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  One of the earliest articles I could find was this editorial in Science from 1987, titled "The Pacific Century." The term may have been offered by Professor Robert Scalapino of the University of California Berkeley's Institute of East Asian Studies. - Enos733 (talk) 05:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.