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The “someone” you disparage was Mark Girouard, about the foremost expert on the Victorian country house. If you think his appraisal is “puffery”, you misunderstand the term. And describing an aerial view as “an aerial view” gives the reader precisely nothing. Happy to discuss on the Talkpage, of course, but I would ask that you don’t edit-war per BRD. KJP1 (talk) 11:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I find it curious that you are making mass changes so that everyone born within the present-day borders of Ukraine is automatically a Ukrainian Jew, within present-day Belarus a Belarusian Jew, but for some reason here it does not apply? Mellk (talk) 22:35, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, why are modern borders being used to determine whether someone belonged to a certain group? That seems like a terrible idea. Ideally, this should be based on how they are defined in sources.

Not everyone born within the modern borders of Belarus was a Belarusian. Same applies to Russia and Ukraine. Not to mention how many times the borders were redrawn. During the Russian Empire days, there was no "Ukrainian" or "Belarusian" border. Mellk (talk) 22:55, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mellk: I'm not sure what your issue is. I'm not making mass changes. I'm doing this for maintenance for the category, going through names that don't look of Russian origin (like Bovshover). This is a very large category and people are inappropriately put in here based on old data from the time when most of Eastern Europe was just called "Russia" or "Poland". Further, I'm not just using borders but other clues; for example, see this edit I just did to Miriam Posner Finkel - her family emigrated from Lithuania (then in the Russian Empire) but her father wrote that he was born in Prussia and her mother in Germany, and since they had German names and spoke German and wrote German down as their nationality I changed it so it reflects that she is of German descent. You'll see these are very established categories based on this policy of using modern borders, and it's the same reason Wayne Gretsky is in the Category:Canadian people of Belarusian descent and Category:Canadian people of Ukrainian descent even though Belarus and Ukraine were not independent countries when his family left. Do you see how that works? If you think there shouldn't be a category for people of Ukrainian-Jewish descent or Belarusian-Jewish descent and they should all be called "Russians" then please go to WP:CfD and argue your case. Good luck with that. Have a nice day. —Kaliforniyka^Hi! 23:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You did not properly explain the reasoning for changing this in Joseph Bovshover. You incorrectly said this person was from Mogilev then proceeded to change Russian-Jewish to Belarusian-Jewish. So please tell me, is Lyubavichi in Belarus or not? Why would you make this change?

Also, I did not say that there should not be a category for Ukrainian-Jewish or Belarusian-Jewish descent. Categories are WP:DEFINING, so people should be categorized based on how they are defined in RS. From what I can see, you are not doing this (at least consistently) and also using modern borders to determine this (which will only lead to anachronisms), or at least trying to, since you incorrectly applied this in the case of Joseph Bovshover. Mellk (talk) 11:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another inconsistency. You remove all Russian categories including the Russian–Jewish descent one, saying that this is only for people who are/were citizens of the Russian Federation. Yet you are applying Belarusian and Ukrainian categories for people who were never Belarusian/Ukrainian citizens but happened to be born/live within the modern borders in the past. Perhaps it makes sense to call him Soviet instead in this case, but you are using the argument that such categories only apply to RF (including the descent category). Meanwhile here you add a category for someone who was never a citizen of Belarus, but simply because they were born within the modern borders. Mellk (talk) 14:29, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also the consensus is not to change Kiev to Kyiv in historical contexts (pre-1991). This edit does not follow this consensus. Mellk (talk) 11:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think she was born in 1898. A Kiss for Susie is a 1917 film. This is not a picture of a 19 year old woman! I think you found the dates of a person with the same name. Pierregil83 (talk) 08:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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