Talk:1909 Chinese provincial elections/GA1

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Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 06:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Elli (talk · contribs) 19:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Looks interesting. Elli (talk | contribs) 19:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I'd reörganize this a bit: the background section is quite small, and while it goes over the general background, it doesn't really include the specific background for this election as is typical for election articles. I'd merge the "Creation of provincial assemblies" here.
  • Done. - G
• Certain provinces allocated additional seats according to regional grain production which provinces/why?
  • Only Min 1989 mentions this and he does not clarify. I think I'm removing it cause it's only in one source and there it's phrased somewhat ambiguously and might instead imply that the provinces themselves had more seats in general in their assemblies due to grain production (which doesn't make sense to me?) - G
• "Election" section should be clarified to be about the election procedures/campaign
  • Renamed it to Campaign. - G
• Turnout is more of a "results" sort of thing.
  • Moved to results. - G
• Is there more that can be said about the campaign? Were there any organized parties?
  • Not on an electoral level; they were banned. The Tongmenghui organized in secret, but didn't seem to have much of a campaigning force. - G
    • @Generalissima: Why not mention this? That seems like a relevant detail. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I'd have a section for voter turnout here.
  • Done. - G
• Any notable winners? Other than the assembly chairmen.
  • A couple sources mentioned some provincial politicians who were skilled orators, but I don't think any of them are separately notable. - G
• The Tongmenghui thing looks interesting, are there any more details on it?
  • Sadly not :( - G

• There isn't really any explanation of what a provincial governor is... presumably appointed by the emperor?
  • Added a footnote. - G
• The provincial assemblies were dismantled under Yuan Shikai's regime and dissolved by the Beiyang government. is there a timeline of this? The elected members from this were already out of office by the time of the dissolution, assuming it happened after 1912, right? (Not saying this isn't relevant to this article, just something to be clarified)
  • Clarified. - G

• Licensing looks fine.
• For the Zhili Provincial Assembly hall, was this building something else before?
  • I could find zero information online about it other than it getting called the Tianjin Zhili Assembly Building. - G

• For the map here... why are there five regions where elections weren't held, instead of just one? This isn't explained in the article.
  • Ah yeah; Tibet, Inner and Outer Mongolia, and Qinghai aren't provinces. I'll recolor the map to account for this and add a footnote. - G
    • Linking to an unexplained redlink still raises more questions than it answers... but it's better than what was there before. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These are my initial thoughts. I haven't taken a close look at the sources yet; I will after you address these comments. Elli (talk | contribs) 20:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Elli: Okay, I think that's good now. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 22:07, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]