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1 October 2024

• 11:4611:46, 1 October 2024 diff hist −466‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ First hatnote seems entirely unnecessary. Tag: Reverted

30 September 2024

• 01:0301:03, 30 September 2024 diff hist +500‎ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Edits: Reply current Tag: Reply

29 September 2024

• 22:0422:04, 29 September 2024 diff hist −8‎ And Then There Were None ‎ →‎Principal characters: It already says he was a general
• 22:0222:02, 29 September 2024 diff hist −37‎ And Then There Were None ‎ →‎Principal characters: Not sure why this would be needed
• 21:4021:40, 29 September 2024 diff hist −9‎ Zach Day ‎ →‎2005 current
• 19:2019:20, 29 September 2024 diff hist +6‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎Not all list sections are trivia sections
• 19:1419:14, 29 September 2024 diff hist +4‎ Zach Day ‎ →‎2004
• 19:1219:12, 29 September 2024 diff hist +56‎ Zach Day ‎ →‎2004
• 16:5116:51, 29 September 2024 diff hist −47‎ Zach Day ‎ →‎2002
• 16:0616:06, 29 September 2024 diff hist −17‎ Zach Day ‎ →‎2003: This was only his second season, so career high doesn't mean much.
• 16:0516:05, 29 September 2024 diff hist −81‎ Zach Day ‎ →‎2002
• 14:5514:55, 29 September 2024 diff hist +140‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎Not all list sections are trivia sections: Example from Featured Article
• 07:1707:17, 29 September 2024 diff hist +18‎ David Justice ‎ →‎Cleveland Indians: The trade happened in late March current
• 03:3203:32, 29 September 2024 diff hist +2‎ Evil Under the Sun ‎No edit summary current
• 01:4101:41, 29 September 2024 diff hist +4‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Principal characters: Changing "minor" to "peripheral". In some stories, characters who could be classified as "minor" are still worth mentioning. For example, the first person bumped off in And Then There Were None is listed in the Characters section, but the ferryman is not, and the detectives who arrive at the end are not, as they are not part of the main story. If you have a list to begin with, it should be fairly inclusive. current

28 September 2024

• 18:5318:53, 28 September 2024 diff hist +449‎ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Edits: Reply Tag: Reply
• 15:2515:25, 28 September 2024 diff hist +4,335‎ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Edits: new section Tag: New topic
• 05:1105:11, 28 September 2024 diff hist −19‎ Evil Under the Sun ‎ →‎Plot summary
• 04:5304:53, 28 September 2024 diff hist +133‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Principal characters: I'm not sure how often this is done, but it would make sense Tag: Reverted
• 04:4104:41, 28 September 2024 diff hist −869‎ Evil Under the Sun ‎ →‎Plot summary: It doesn't really make sense to list out the characters like this in a plot section while also having a Characters section. Perhaps the Characters section should come first. Also, I'm not sure a plot summary should specify every character's alibi.
• 01:1201:12, 28 September 2024 diff hist +2‎ Evil Under the Sun ‎ →‎Plot summary

27 September 2024

• 20:5820:58, 27 September 2024 diff hist +43‎ And Then There Were None ‎ →‎Plot: This is a rather significant point, as it shows how Vera outsmarted Lombard.
• 16:4016:40, 27 September 2024 diff hist −86‎ The Sign of the Four ‎ →‎Plot: Plot summary is still over 1,000 words. current
• 15:3515:35, 27 September 2024 diff hist −30‎ Evil Under the Sun ‎ →‎Characters: Extraneous
• 06:5006:50, 27 September 2024 diff hist −110‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎Guidance: A trivia section pretty much should always be removed; the only question is how to go about this. There's no need to state again that trivia sections should be avoided, as that is already done twice just above. This section may not be needed at all; it could just be combined with the lead. If you restore anything, make sure it's logically presented and not redundant.

26 September 2024

• 18:3318:33, 26 September 2024 diff hist +530‎ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎Mixed message: Reply current Tag: Reply
• 14:3614:36, 26 September 2024 diff hist +462‎ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎Mixed message: Reply Tag: Reply

25 September 2024

• 18:0918:09, 25 September 2024 diff hist −20‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Images: Linking to Google Images. Also rephrasing, since Google Images is a search engine Tag: Reverted
• 16:4216:42, 25 September 2024 diff hist −201‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ There appears to be agreement that this is an improvement. I find it unlikely that any pages link to this specific section. If there are broken section links, perhaps it was to the Example section removed on 1 October 2015. In any event, such links can be updated or removed, and we shouldn't let that kind of thing stop us from improving this page, which two weeks ago was a jumbled, contradictory mess. Tag: Reverted
• 13:5313:53, 25 September 2024 diff hist −911‎ The Sign of the Four ‎ →‎Plot: The word count of this plot summary appeared to be over 1,000 words, whereas a plot summary is generally supposed to be under 700. Tag: references removed
• 01:3701:37, 25 September 2024 diff hist −201‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ Merging sections. I now believe that "it is better for it to be poorly presented than not presented at all" could be taken as encouraging one to create or add to a trivia section. Even without that, we can still be clear that a trivia section should not always be removed outright. Tag: Reverted

23 September 2024

• 20:4020:40, 23 September 2024 diff hist −128‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎What this guideline is not: The second point is very clearly redundant to the section which immediately follows. The first point might have something worth integrating into what is above, so I will leave it in place for the moment. Though "it is better for it to be poorly presented than not presented at all" seems like another instance of a mixed message, as it could be taken as encouraging one to create or add to a trivia section.

22 September 2024

• 19:5419:54, 22 September 2024 diff hist −406‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎What this guideline is not: The first point is redundant to what is above, and the second is redundant to what is below. "If information is otherwise suitable for inclusion, it is better for it to be poorly presented than not presented at all" might be worth preserving, but I'm not sure that's always true. Tag: Reverted
• 18:0018:00, 22 September 2024 diff hist −786‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎Guidance: Shortening. I started off thinking that it wasn't really helpful to mention other articles or potential articles, though I did ultimately integrate that back in.
• 00:3800:38, 22 September 2024 diff hist +21‎ History of Christianity ‎ →‎Diversity and commonality: I guess this doesn't make sense without something like this.
• 00:3100:31, 22 September 2024 diff hist −21‎ History of Christianity ‎ I'm not sure it's ever correct to say "our" in Wikipedia's voice in the mainspace

21 September 2024

• 20:3220:32, 21 September 2024 diff hist −262‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ Like something else that was recently removed, this seems to contradict the "In popular culture" section to some extent. Adding to the end of the next paragraph to note that some trivia should simply be removed.
• 19:0119:01, 21 September 2024 diff hist −55‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Places to start Tag: Reverted
• 16:3116:31, 21 September 2024 diff hist +25‎ Norton Critical Editions ‎ ←Changed redirect target from W. W. Norton & Company to W. W. Norton & Company#Norton Critical Editions current Tag: Redirect target changed
• 16:3016:30, 21 September 2024 diff hist −19‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Places to start: Linking to List of Cambridge Companions to Literature and Classics. While it does seem to be mostly focused on authors rather than individual works, there is one for Sherlock Holmes. Tag: Reverted

20 September 2024

• 16:4216:42, 20 September 2024 diff hist −487‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ Trying again. There doesn't seem to be any objection to my point that reliability is mostly a separate issue. Also, "when adding new facts to a trivia section" is another instance of a mixed message, as no one should be encouraged to add anything to a trivia section. Tag: Reverted
• 05:4405:44, 20 September 2024 diff hist −1‎ And Then There Were None ‎ →‎Plot: Singular is probably better here. By this point, the guests had realized that the Owens were fictitious, and they don't seem to be looking for Mrs Owen Tag: Manual revert

19 September 2024

• 01:2901:29, 19 September 2024 diff hist +437‎ Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ →‎Mixed message: Reply Tag: Reply
• 01:1501:15, 19 September 2024 diff hist +16‎ The Valley of Fear ‎ →‎Plot: Noting who the three men are, as Watson had not even been mentioned yet

18 September 2024

• 22:2622:26, 18 September 2024 diff hist +1‎ The Valley of Fear ‎ →‎Publication history: I assume this is supposed to be 1914
• 15:4615:46, 18 September 2024 diff hist +49‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trivia sections ‎ Reliability is mostly a different issue. I guess the point is that things in a trivia section are less likely to be checked, but editors are free to fact-check even if they don't do a whole-sale cleanup. Tag: Reverted

17 September 2024

• 21:2621:26, 17 September 2024 diff hist −235‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Publication date: Release dates for different countries would usually be trivia, so probably shouldn't be mentioned anywhere in the article, or at least not in list form. I'm not sure the rest is needed, since this is already clear about what date should be given. Tag: Reverted
• 17:5917:59, 17 September 2024 diff hist −27‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Infobox: Removing image caption, since there is no image Tag: Reverted
• 17:5717:57, 17 September 2024 diff hist −258‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Infobox: Copying the current Infobox, minus the cover image. The number of pages is now listed as 276. Tag: Reverted
• 06:0806:08, 17 September 2024 diff hist −39‎ Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Novels ‎ →‎Infobox: Combining this into one paragraph, and moving down the explanation of why the image has been removed from the example infobox. Tag: Reverted