THE DEEP ONES Fall 2018 Planning Thread

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THE DEEP ONES Fall 2018 Planning Thread

1paradoxosalpha
Sep 4, 2018, 2:50 pm

This thread is for nominations and voting on stories for inclusion in the October-December weekly discussion reads in this group. Please feel free to draw on the ongoing brainstorming thread for nominations.

As in past rounds, any story that gets more "No" than "Yes" votes won't make the cut; otherwise they'll be prioritized according to net-yes-minus-no, and the final list will be in OPD sequence. Ties will be broken in favor of author and period variety.

To propose a story for voting, place the title and author between HTML-style angle-bracket tags. The open tag says vote (in brackets); the close tag says /vote (ditto). Multiple polls seem to need multiple posts. If you put the name of the author in double square brackets, it will make it a linked "touchstone" for the LT database, and first publication dates of nominated stories are appreciated. Also welcome are remarks about the story, the author, and your nomination motives, and/or a link to an online version.

You can see a sortable list of all previous discussions here. Nominations repeating old discussions will be disqualified, but revival of dormant discussion threads is always welcome. "That is not dead which can eternal lie," etc.

VOTING is scheduled to END on the Fall Equinox: Friday, September 21.

2paradoxosalpha
Edited: Sep 14, 2018, 10:49 am

Vote: "Professor Pownall's Oversight" by H. Russell Wakefield (1928)

Current tally: Yes 9, No 1, Undecided 1
Quoting myself: "perhaps the best chess ghost story possible." Frequently anthologized.

3paradoxosalpha
Sep 4, 2018, 3:01 pm

Vote: "Splinters" by R.A. Lafferty (1978)

Current tally: Yes 6, No 2, Undecided 2
Included in Grant's original Shadows anthology.

4elenchus
Sep 4, 2018, 4:21 pm

Vote: "Countess Otho" by Reggie Oliver (2009)

Current tally: Yes 9, No 1, Undecided 2
My description in the brainstorming thread: "updates the King in Yellow premise for the late 20th century and tops it with an unexpected ending."

Available in a couple collections, including Oliver's omnibus Mrs Midnight and Other Stories. Tartarus Press includes an eBook version from their site. No online versions found unless the "peek inside" function works from the Amazon site.

5semdetenebre
Sep 4, 2018, 9:32 pm

Vote: "Blood Disease" by Patrick McGrath (1988)

Current tally: Yes 8, No 1, Undecided 1
Joyce Carol Oates calls it a "gothic tour de force". Available online.

https://bombmagazine.org/articles/blood-disease/

6semdetenebre
Sep 4, 2018, 9:37 pm

Vote: "The Refugee" by Jane Rice (1943)

Current tally: Yes 9, No 1
Peter Straub calls this werewolf tale "one of the best pulp stories I’d ever read". Available online.

http://storyoftheweek.loa.org/2011/03/refugee.html

7RandyStafford
Sep 4, 2018, 9:38 pm

Vote: "In Memoriam" by David H. Keller (1962)

Current tally: Yes 5, No 4, Undecided 1
Described by August Derleth in Dark Mind, Dark Heart as "symbolic horror". However, that anthology is the only place the story has been published in English.

8semdetenebre
Sep 4, 2018, 9:39 pm

Vote: "At the Mountains of Madness" by H.P. Lovecraft (1936)

Current tally: Yes 10, No 1
This novella is one of HPL's most revered tales. Available online.

http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/mm.aspx

9semdetenebre
Edited: Sep 4, 2018, 10:07 pm

Vote: "They Bite" by Anthony Boucher (1943)

Current tally: Yes 10, No 0, Undecided 1
The 1943 winner in Cemetery Dance's Century's Best Horror. Editor John Pelan calls the story "one for the ages". Available online.

http://www.unz.com/print/Unknown-1943aug-00127/

10semdetenebre
Edited: Sep 4, 2018, 11:10 pm

Vote: "The Daemon Lover" by Shirley Jackson (1949)

Current tally: Yes 9, No 2, Undecided 1
Often anthologized, and of course it's in The Lottery.

11AndreasJ
Sep 5, 2018, 12:41 am

Vote: "The Theft of the Thirty-Nine Girdles" by Clark Ashton Smith (1958)

Current tally: Yes 10, No 0
Satampra Zeiros returns for one of CAS's last stories. Online here.

12paradoxosalpha
Sep 5, 2018, 1:50 pm

Vote: "Lull" (2002) by Kelly Link

Current tally: Yes 5, No 3, Undecided 2
This 21st-century story is quite surreal and has often been collected.

13semdetenebre
Edited: Sep 6, 2018, 12:29 pm

>4 elenchus:

"Countess Otho". I think the complete story is there in the Amazon preview. Any way to confirm based on a print copy?

14elenchus
Edited: Sep 6, 2018, 12:35 pm

>13 semdetenebre:

It's difficult for me to know how it works generally. My view of the story online is incomplete, but I strongly suspect Amazon tailors its access to individual users. So while I only see part of the story, others might see the full story. Is my access based on my general profile with Amazon? Or my recent access to the title, or if I purchased something on Amazon recently? Without insight into how it works, for now I do not to consider the "peek inside" as a viable online option.

15semdetenebre
Sep 6, 2018, 12:43 pm

>14 elenchus:

I was trying to glimpse at the last paragraph without actually reading it, so it might well be incomplete. I agree that it's not a viable choice for our purposes.

16RandyStafford
Sep 6, 2018, 4:20 pm

Vote: "The Crimson Weaver" by R. Murray Gilchrist (1895)

Current tally: Yes 8, No 2
Originally published in The Yellow Book and mentioned in the recent Weird Fiction in Britain 1880-1939.

Seemingly a vampire tale.

18semdetenebre
Sep 6, 2018, 10:41 pm

Vote: "A Home in the Dark" by David J. Schow (2013)

Current tally: Yes 7, No 2, Undecided 1
Schow calls it "a detailed rendering of a single event leading to what Poe called the “effect” (the essence of horror), which may be a fever dream or hallucination". Available online.

http://www.nightmare-magazine.com/fiction/a-home-in-the-dark/

19semdetenebre
Edited: Sep 6, 2018, 10:52 pm

Vote: "Mysterium Tremendum" by Molly Tanzer (2013)

Current tally: Yes 9, No 1
A tale of mummies and magicians set in Arkham. Available online.

http://www.nightmare-magazine.com/fiction/mysterium-tremendum/

20elenchus
Edited: Sep 7, 2018, 4:31 pm

Vote: "The Man Who Sold Rope To The Gnoles" by Margaret St. Clair (1951)

Current tally: Yes 11, No 0, Undecided 1
Recommended by the VanderMeer's here and described: "The story is satirical, weird, and gives a nod to a Lord Dunsany story."

Appears to be available online here, but the site is blocked at work so I can't confirm at the moment.

21AndreasJ
Sep 8, 2018, 3:49 am

>20 elenchus:

That appears to be a complete story, yes. The Dunsany story being referenced is "How Nuth Would Have Practised His Art Upon the Gnoles", which we discussed back in Summer 2012.

22housefulofpaper
Sep 8, 2018, 2:25 pm

>13 semdetenebre:
I didn't get to see the entire story using Amazon preview. The last paragraph as printed in Mrs Midnight and Other Stories begins "Today at Sotheby's".

>20 elenchus:
This story is collected in The Weird.

23paradoxosalpha
Edited: Sep 13, 2018, 1:23 pm

Vote: "Lean Times in Lankhmar" by Fritz Leiber (1959)

Current tally: Yes 10, No 1, Undecided 1
Possibly the best tale of Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, reprinted in every edition of their stories and then some.

24paradoxosalpha
Sep 15, 2018, 11:45 am

Nominations made this weekend still have a fine chance of making the list for fall. Voting ends Friday!

25AndreasJ
Sep 17, 2018, 11:08 am

Almost forgot I said I'd nominate this:

Vote: "Memory" by H. P. Lovecraft (written 1919, published 1923)

Current tally: Yes 6, No 2, Undecided 1
A prose poem, very short even by our standards, but, I think, interesting. Online e.g. at Wikisource.

26paradoxosalpha
Edited: Sep 18, 2018, 12:22 pm

Vote: "The Crimson Weaver" by R. Murray Gilchrist (1895)

Current tally: Yes 4, No 0, Undecided 1

A piece of decadence that vanished for over a century until it was collected at least three times since the millennium.

Available online.

Edited to add: Duplicate nomination; sorry about that. Go vote at >16 RandyStafford:

27elenchus
Sep 18, 2018, 12:13 pm

Vote: "Incident in Moderan" by David R. Bunch (1967)

Current tally: Yes 5, No 3, Undecided 1
Jeff VanderMeer wrote "In Bunch’s tales, men become fortresses, trapped in remade bodies that personify ritualized aggression. These bodies are literally and figuratively sequestered from any vestige of the nonhuman world." He suggests the Moderan tales are cyborg Weird.

Included in Dangerous Visions, no online versions found as yet.

28frahealee
Edited: Jul 21, 2022, 12:15 pm

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29paradoxosalpha
Sep 18, 2018, 12:22 pm

>28 frahealee:

Thanks for the catch. Amended.

30paradoxosalpha
Edited: Sep 18, 2018, 12:42 pm

Vote: "The Watcher by the Threshold" by John Buchan (1900)

Current tally: Yes 12, No 0
We've only read one Buchan story so far ("The Grove of Ashtaroth") and we're past due for another. Easily available online.

31semdetenebre
Sep 18, 2018, 12:30 pm

>27 elenchus:

A few years ago, a friend gave me a copy of Moderan, along with some other obscure titles. I never read it, but still have it somewhere. I shall begin excavation tonight.

32elenchus
Sep 20, 2018, 10:46 am

>31 semdetenebre:

I've not read any Moderan story (that I recall), but the description puts me in mind of the film Tetsuo.

33paradoxosalpha
Sep 20, 2018, 10:52 am

I'll tally votes tomorrow. Please get your voting done today.

34paradoxosalpha
Sep 21, 2018, 9:58 am

I won't get to the count until this evening, sorry.

So there's still a little window left for voting.

35elenchus
Sep 21, 2018, 10:13 am

Both for new voters, and for others who may have skipped or missed individual nominations. (For whatever OCD reasons, it bothers me if I have not voted for each nomination so I like to go back and ensure my vote is cast.)

36semdetenebre
Sep 21, 2018, 11:36 am

>34 paradoxosalpha:

No problem - the autumnal equinox isn't until tomorrow. :)

>35 elenchus:

And if you're a lurker at the threshold - please vote! You're not committing to anything, although I encourage you to join in on the discussions - even if it's just for a favorite story. Also, if you voted "undecided", you can still change your vote.

37frahealee
Edited: Jul 21, 2022, 12:15 pm

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38paradoxosalpha
Sep 21, 2018, 8:03 pm

Voting closed; I'm counting!