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Jane Eyre
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bookshelves: owned, romance, 5-stars, mystery
May 01, 2014
bookshelves: owned, romance, 5-stars, mystery
Read 2 times. Last read June 19, 2015 to March 5, 2016.
SPOILERS
I dedicate this review to my dear friend Jeffrey. jeffrey, you are incredible friend and a writer and you should never, ever change.
Jane and Mr. Rochester
More than once I have come across criticism on Charlotte Bronte for fully failing to understand Jane Austen. Charlotte declares her incapable of passion. And while I cannot agree with this assessment, after my second reading of ‘Jane Eyre’ I do understand why someone like Chatlotte Bronte sees someone like Jane Austen this way. If Lizzie Bennet is a breath fresh air, charming and witty, Jane is force of nature. In the face of a storm Lizzie will be next to you, encouraging you and consoling you, while Jane will grab you by the hands, look you in the eyes and tell you “It’s over. You’re going down. Face it and do it right” Jane carries herself through light and darkness in equally graceful way. I may disagree with some of her views, yet, I am completely enthralled and mesmerized by her strength, by her determination to fight for herself, and the passion with which she defends her beliefs, regardless of whether I agree with them or not.
"I am no bird; and no net ensnares me; I am a free human being with an independent will."
Jane proved to me that freedom and free will are not the same thing. Does the slave, the captive, the sick one, the lonely one, have a free will? We are all captives in some way, we are dependant and we all suffer. Some more than others. Free will doesn’t go away with freedom. No walls, no humiliations and atrocities can devour it. I shall quote my friend Hades “Courage doesn’t always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, ‘I will try again tomorrow.’ Even in the face of most horrendous circumstances we have the choice, the free will, to decide whether we shall let our identity, our core, the sense of meaning, burn out along with our happiness, or we shall keep remembering that there is always tomorrow. Jane remembers, Jane hopes, Jane believes. Jane cares. I will never understand those who consider Catherine the personification of passion and free human spirit, and Jane just a meek, boring, insipid girl. Catherine is passionate about nothing and no one else but Heathcliff. And even this single source of passion doesn’t prove strong enough. She lets go of him and voluntarily confines herself into miserable marriage and devotes her existence to a life of bland luxury, lies and petty rivalries that make neither her, nor anyone close to her happy. This isn’t the face of passion and freedom. Jane is passionate about Mr. Rochester, about women's position, moral, religion, education. About people and the world in general. She has a really big scope. One that Catherine lacks. She knows herself well enough to know that being entraped in a relationship that goes against her instincts would ruin her. It is people endowed with passion and bravery that dare to throw away the shroud of the common, to peel the veneer and see what’s inside. She breaks the rules. She cares nothing for customs, social norms and others’ opinion. Her conscience is her only guide. Jane is adventurer. She longs for “the wind to howl more wildly, the gloom to deepen to darkness, and the confusion to rise to clamour”.
"I believed in the existence of other and more vivid kinds of goodness, and what I believed in I wished to behold. Who blames me? Many, no doubt; and I shall be called discontented. I could not help it: the restlessness was in my nature; it agitated me to pain sometimes."
And this longing makes her to break free from prejudice, to remember that “women feel just as men feel; It is thoughtless to condemn them, or laugh at them, if they seek to do more or learn more than custom has pronounced necessary for their sex.” It makes her brave enough to have a relationship with an older, prominent, enigmatic, sarcastic, dominant, demanding man, even though many who have been victims of suppression and abuse would see such position as just another of its faces. Yet, she gives into it. She dares explore the forbidden territory, to jump in the deep without a safety net, and knowing that if it fails, there will be a hell to pay. At the time having a relationship with the boss wasn’t as easy as it is today.
"My eyes were drawn involuntarily to his face; I could not keep them under control. I looked, and had an acute pleasure in looking, - a precious yet poignant pleasure; pure gold, with a steely point of agony: a pleasure like what the thirst-perishing man might feel who knows the well to which he has crept is poisoned, yet stoops and drinks divine draughts nevertheless."
Temptation. It is a powerful force and for a woman like Jane, endowed with rare sensitivity and sensuality, it is an even greater one. Jane is modest and calm, but on the inside she is full of "life, fire, feeling”. And she is confident enough to not feel the need to demonstrate and parade her sexuality. As Marguerite Duras says in “The Lover”, “You didn’t have to attract desire. Either it was in the woman who aroused it or it didn’t exist”. Just like she doesn’t feel the need to prove how strong she is. Her mild, calm nature is not a sign of resignation, but a sign of deep inner peace. Fervour and boldness are not the only weapons one might possess. Jane isn’t about effects, but results. She speaks little and calmly, but smartly. Two quiet words, said in the right way and at the right time, have a bigger effect than the most intense and colorful declaration. Everyone can attract attention by being bold and flirtatious, everyone can defend themselves by using strong language and even force. But how many of us can achieve those things without even trying? Jane’s strength and beauty are deeply intrinsic. They are part of her, and not something she needs to evoke. They provoke fear in the cruel, sanctimonious, narrow-minded Mrs. Reid and Mr. Brocklehurst, mollify the innate coarseness of Betsy, gain the favour of Mirss Temple, Diana and Mary Rivers, and the affection and respect of Edward Rochester and John Rivers. I shall quote Mr. Rochester himself.
"To women who please me only by their faces, I am the very devil when I find out they have neither souls nor hearts - when they open to me a perspective of flatness, triviality, and imbecility, coarseness, and ill-temper: but to the clear eye and eloquent tongue, to the soul made of fire, and the character that bends but does not break - at once supple and stable, tractable and consistent - I am ever tender and true."
He understands and describes her character perfectly.
With all said, Jane isn’t perfect. She has her inner struggles. She questions her principles, she suffers the temptations and dilemmas we all do. It takes her a lot to learn to handle her strong emotions. Both negative and positive. When she is faced with the same dilemma that haunts the protagonist of “Notes From the Underground”,
“Which is better – cheap happiness or lofty suffering?”
she is very tempted to choose what she perceives to be an immoral act, disregard of her most important values. Her inner struggle at those moments will stay with me. It touched me very deeply.
"I have talked, face to face, with what I reverence, with what I delight in, - with an original, a vigorous, an expanded mind. I have known you and it strikes me with terror and anguish to feel I absolutely must be torn from you for ever. I see the necessity of departure; and it is like looking on the necessity of death."
In the end she adheres to her chosen path. But despite her choice of ”lofty suffering”, Jane is not judgmental and self-righteous. She proves exactly how gentle her heart is and how deep her mind when she is faced with Mr. Rochester point of view regarding relationships and the sanctity of marriage. She doesn’t share his view, yet, she isn’t scandalized, indignant or angry. She actually sees the sense in what he tells her, despite not agreeing to it. I think it is rare to be able to understand and accept an opposite point of view without sharing it. Time and experience have taught me that two opposite views can be equally valid and truthful. This is a woman able to see nuances. All said about Jane’s depth can be said about Edward Rochester too. I will never forget these words:
"Never was anything at once so frail and so indomitable. I could bend her with my finger and thumb: and what good would it do if I bent, if I uptore, if I crushed her? Consider that eye, defying me, with more than courage - with a stern triumph. It is you, spirit - with will and energy, and virtue and purity - that I want: not alone your brittle frame."
It only shows how well they know and understand each other. (Unlike Heathcliff and Cathy) The harmony they find in their disharmony proves the veracity of his earlier words:
"It is as if I had a string somewhere under my left ribs, tightly and inextricably knotted to a similar string situated in the corresponding quarter of your little frame. And if that boisterous Channel, and two hundred miles or so of land come broad between us, I am afraid that cord of communion will be snapt; and then I’ve a nervous notion I should take to bleeding inwardly. As for you, - you’d forget me."
The first sentence anyway. As the plot progresses, we see that, like in every great love story, nobody forgets no one. The way they bear their separation only supports his claim about the deep affinity between them. (sighing)
Jane and John Rivers
The other austere, dominant male presence in Jane’s life. He must be one of the most fascinating characters I have come across. He may not be the man you would want as a best friend or to marry to, but I find him incredibly exciting and thought provoking. I shall quote myself. Here’s what I say in my review of “Inferno”
”I would always choose the sinner who sins, but also forgives, over the saint who never sins, but never forgives either”
The juxtaposition between John Rivers and Edward Rochester really instills life into those words. Charlotte Bronte seems to have believed the same thing, judging by the way she has constructed those two characters. And Jane somehow balances their features in herself. She possesses some of the convictions and prejudices of John Rivers. She is deeply religious and despite generally being able to see nuances, in some aspects, just like his, her view is too black and white. She too is used to very simple, moderate life, she too feels the need to help others. Only, unlike him, she realizes that in some aspects the best way to take care of others is to, first and foremost, take care of yourself. And this is where once again we witness her ability and willingness to see nuances. Unlike John Rivers, she realizes that when an idea, no matter how noble, turns into an obsession, might turn the devotee into someone as – and even more – dangerous than many egotists, opportunists and criminals out there. Rochester too is an austere, harsh man, but unlike John Rivers, he understands the other side too. He’s also full of love and tenderness and generosity. Not John Rivers, though.
"What struggle there was in him between Nature and Grace in this interval, I cannot tell: only singular gleams scintillated in his eyes, and strange shadows passed over his face. He is a good and a great man; but he forgets, pitilessly, the feelings and claims of little people, in pursuing his own large views. It is better for the insignificant to keep out of his way, lest, in his progress, he should trample them down"
John Rivers, albeit good and great man – as Jane herself refers to him – is tainted by the fatal weakness of seeing people as just a big herd and himself as the shepherd who needs to lead and support it. He fails to see them as individual human beings, which is good neither for them, nor for himself. He is ready to sacrifice himself and everyone else he deems necessary to achieve his grand dream. He has a big heart, but a narrow scope. He struggles with every genuine feeling that comes to him.
"You are original, and not timid. There is something brave in your spirit, as well as penetrating in your eye; but allow me to assure you that you partially misinterpret my emotions. I declare, the convulsion of the soul. That is just as fixed as a rock, firm set in the depths of a restless sea. Know me to be what I am - a cold hard man."
He is fanatic to the very core of his being and so lacking of confidence and self-esteem that he believes himself worthless without religion. To Jane religion is a dear friend helping her to keep her hope alive and make hard choices. It is essential part of her personality, but she sees it as something separated from her. She had her marvelous qualities even before turning to it. However, John Rivers sees his religious self as the only self that is of any worth. He affirms nothing else.
"You have taken my confidence by storm, and now it is much at your service. I am simply, in my original state - stripped of that blood-bleached robe with which Christianity covers human deformity - a cold, hard, ambitious man. My ambition is unlimited: my desire to rise higher - insatiable. I watch you with interest, but not because I deeply compassionate what you have gone through, or what you still suffer."
His words show that he too is possessed by a deep passion. But it is a cold flame that inflames it. His goal is noble, but not his ways. He rejects his individuality and that of others, the idea of happiness and self-indulgence. He forgets that every love is first and foremost love for the self. It is from this love that our love for others emanates. If we give up on ourselves, we give up on everyone else. If all you do is just give and give and sacrifice and sacrifice yourself, one day you will find that you have run out of substance and you have nothing left to give. And you will be gone, unable to help anyone with anything. And it will happen quickly. As it really does happen with him. But, as Jane herself proves, if you use your goodness and generosity sparingly enough and not forget yourself, you will be able to preserve yourself and therefore help others for a longer period and in a more quality way. Sometimes the best way to be strong is to let yourself be weak. I choose weak, but long-burning candle over bright and short-burning one. Jane is not as free-thinking as Rochester in some regards, but she does share his warmth, his willingness to forgive, the flexibility of his mind, his dream of happy and content life. She admits her own – and his – importance. It is always hard to decide how much to give to others and how much to keep to ourselves. It’s the hardest balance to keep. The one between the self and the world.
With all said, I do believe that John Rivers, cold as he was, in his own way did love her. But he was too absorbed by his overblown idea of humanity and sacrifice and his refusal to see people as anything else than helpless victims and himself and Jane as the necessary sacrifice laid on the sacred alter and soon to be consumed. For awhile Jane is tempted. For awhile he is as big a temptation as Rochester. In the end though her spirit prevails, she breaks free, she remembers who she truly is and whom she needs to be with. The ending brought me so much happiness. I still stand by my claim that Mr. Rochester is the sweetest marshmallow of a man I have come across. And Jane agrees with me. Or, maybe I should say, I agree with her. This is one of my most favourite novels and, in some ways, the favourite. It was the book that made me realize that simplicity and depth don’t mutually exclude each other. It is a simple story, but it tells us so much. And Jane herself, she doesn’t possess the grayness we all appreciate so much in characters and consider to be making them deeper and more interesting. In this regard Jane is not complex – she is perfectly good, kind and amiable girl – but she is a deep character that speaks to me from the distance of 178 years. And I hear her voice. She exhorts me to be compassionate, to be strong in the face of adversity, to be equally kind to myself and others, to love myself and others willingly and openly, without shame, without regret, without reserve. She remains a quiet power in my consciousness that I will never separate with. Thank you, Jane.
Read count: 2
P.S. My only regret is that I didn’t provide Mr. Rochester with enough attention. I feel that I should have explored his character more thoroughly, so this review will probably go through a substantial redaction at some point. Otherwise it was a really nice experience.
I dedicate this review to my dear friend Jeffrey. jeffrey, you are incredible friend and a writer and you should never, ever change.
Jane and Mr. Rochester
More than once I have come across criticism on Charlotte Bronte for fully failing to understand Jane Austen. Charlotte declares her incapable of passion. And while I cannot agree with this assessment, after my second reading of ‘Jane Eyre’ I do understand why someone like Chatlotte Bronte sees someone like Jane Austen this way. If Lizzie Bennet is a breath fresh air, charming and witty, Jane is force of nature. In the face of a storm Lizzie will be next to you, encouraging you and consoling you, while Jane will grab you by the hands, look you in the eyes and tell you “It’s over. You’re going down. Face it and do it right” Jane carries herself through light and darkness in equally graceful way. I may disagree with some of her views, yet, I am completely enthralled and mesmerized by her strength, by her determination to fight for herself, and the passion with which she defends her beliefs, regardless of whether I agree with them or not.
"I am no bird; and no net ensnares me; I am a free human being with an independent will."
Jane proved to me that freedom and free will are not the same thing. Does the slave, the captive, the sick one, the lonely one, have a free will? We are all captives in some way, we are dependant and we all suffer. Some more than others. Free will doesn’t go away with freedom. No walls, no humiliations and atrocities can devour it. I shall quote my friend Hades “Courage doesn’t always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, ‘I will try again tomorrow.’ Even in the face of most horrendous circumstances we have the choice, the free will, to decide whether we shall let our identity, our core, the sense of meaning, burn out along with our happiness, or we shall keep remembering that there is always tomorrow. Jane remembers, Jane hopes, Jane believes. Jane cares. I will never understand those who consider Catherine the personification of passion and free human spirit, and Jane just a meek, boring, insipid girl. Catherine is passionate about nothing and no one else but Heathcliff. And even this single source of passion doesn’t prove strong enough. She lets go of him and voluntarily confines herself into miserable marriage and devotes her existence to a life of bland luxury, lies and petty rivalries that make neither her, nor anyone close to her happy. This isn’t the face of passion and freedom. Jane is passionate about Mr. Rochester, about women's position, moral, religion, education. About people and the world in general. She has a really big scope. One that Catherine lacks. She knows herself well enough to know that being entraped in a relationship that goes against her instincts would ruin her. It is people endowed with passion and bravery that dare to throw away the shroud of the common, to peel the veneer and see what’s inside. She breaks the rules. She cares nothing for customs, social norms and others’ opinion. Her conscience is her only guide. Jane is adventurer. She longs for “the wind to howl more wildly, the gloom to deepen to darkness, and the confusion to rise to clamour”.
"I believed in the existence of other and more vivid kinds of goodness, and what I believed in I wished to behold. Who blames me? Many, no doubt; and I shall be called discontented. I could not help it: the restlessness was in my nature; it agitated me to pain sometimes."
And this longing makes her to break free from prejudice, to remember that “women feel just as men feel; It is thoughtless to condemn them, or laugh at them, if they seek to do more or learn more than custom has pronounced necessary for their sex.” It makes her brave enough to have a relationship with an older, prominent, enigmatic, sarcastic, dominant, demanding man, even though many who have been victims of suppression and abuse would see such position as just another of its faces. Yet, she gives into it. She dares explore the forbidden territory, to jump in the deep without a safety net, and knowing that if it fails, there will be a hell to pay. At the time having a relationship with the boss wasn’t as easy as it is today.
"My eyes were drawn involuntarily to his face; I could not keep them under control. I looked, and had an acute pleasure in looking, - a precious yet poignant pleasure; pure gold, with a steely point of agony: a pleasure like what the thirst-perishing man might feel who knows the well to which he has crept is poisoned, yet stoops and drinks divine draughts nevertheless."
Temptation. It is a powerful force and for a woman like Jane, endowed with rare sensitivity and sensuality, it is an even greater one. Jane is modest and calm, but on the inside she is full of "life, fire, feeling”. And she is confident enough to not feel the need to demonstrate and parade her sexuality. As Marguerite Duras says in “The Lover”, “You didn’t have to attract desire. Either it was in the woman who aroused it or it didn’t exist”. Just like she doesn’t feel the need to prove how strong she is. Her mild, calm nature is not a sign of resignation, but a sign of deep inner peace. Fervour and boldness are not the only weapons one might possess. Jane isn’t about effects, but results. She speaks little and calmly, but smartly. Two quiet words, said in the right way and at the right time, have a bigger effect than the most intense and colorful declaration. Everyone can attract attention by being bold and flirtatious, everyone can defend themselves by using strong language and even force. But how many of us can achieve those things without even trying? Jane’s strength and beauty are deeply intrinsic. They are part of her, and not something she needs to evoke. They provoke fear in the cruel, sanctimonious, narrow-minded Mrs. Reid and Mr. Brocklehurst, mollify the innate coarseness of Betsy, gain the favour of Mirss Temple, Diana and Mary Rivers, and the affection and respect of Edward Rochester and John Rivers. I shall quote Mr. Rochester himself.
"To women who please me only by their faces, I am the very devil when I find out they have neither souls nor hearts - when they open to me a perspective of flatness, triviality, and imbecility, coarseness, and ill-temper: but to the clear eye and eloquent tongue, to the soul made of fire, and the character that bends but does not break - at once supple and stable, tractable and consistent - I am ever tender and true."
He understands and describes her character perfectly.
With all said, Jane isn’t perfect. She has her inner struggles. She questions her principles, she suffers the temptations and dilemmas we all do. It takes her a lot to learn to handle her strong emotions. Both negative and positive. When she is faced with the same dilemma that haunts the protagonist of “Notes From the Underground”,
“Which is better – cheap happiness or lofty suffering?”
she is very tempted to choose what she perceives to be an immoral act, disregard of her most important values. Her inner struggle at those moments will stay with me. It touched me very deeply.
"I have talked, face to face, with what I reverence, with what I delight in, - with an original, a vigorous, an expanded mind. I have known you and it strikes me with terror and anguish to feel I absolutely must be torn from you for ever. I see the necessity of departure; and it is like looking on the necessity of death."
In the end she adheres to her chosen path. But despite her choice of ”lofty suffering”, Jane is not judgmental and self-righteous. She proves exactly how gentle her heart is and how deep her mind when she is faced with Mr. Rochester point of view regarding relationships and the sanctity of marriage. She doesn’t share his view, yet, she isn’t scandalized, indignant or angry. She actually sees the sense in what he tells her, despite not agreeing to it. I think it is rare to be able to understand and accept an opposite point of view without sharing it. Time and experience have taught me that two opposite views can be equally valid and truthful. This is a woman able to see nuances. All said about Jane’s depth can be said about Edward Rochester too. I will never forget these words:
"Never was anything at once so frail and so indomitable. I could bend her with my finger and thumb: and what good would it do if I bent, if I uptore, if I crushed her? Consider that eye, defying me, with more than courage - with a stern triumph. It is you, spirit - with will and energy, and virtue and purity - that I want: not alone your brittle frame."
It only shows how well they know and understand each other. (Unlike Heathcliff and Cathy) The harmony they find in their disharmony proves the veracity of his earlier words:
"It is as if I had a string somewhere under my left ribs, tightly and inextricably knotted to a similar string situated in the corresponding quarter of your little frame. And if that boisterous Channel, and two hundred miles or so of land come broad between us, I am afraid that cord of communion will be snapt; and then I’ve a nervous notion I should take to bleeding inwardly. As for you, - you’d forget me."
The first sentence anyway. As the plot progresses, we see that, like in every great love story, nobody forgets no one. The way they bear their separation only supports his claim about the deep affinity between them. (sighing)
Jane and John Rivers
The other austere, dominant male presence in Jane’s life. He must be one of the most fascinating characters I have come across. He may not be the man you would want as a best friend or to marry to, but I find him incredibly exciting and thought provoking. I shall quote myself. Here’s what I say in my review of “Inferno”
”I would always choose the sinner who sins, but also forgives, over the saint who never sins, but never forgives either”
The juxtaposition between John Rivers and Edward Rochester really instills life into those words. Charlotte Bronte seems to have believed the same thing, judging by the way she has constructed those two characters. And Jane somehow balances their features in herself. She possesses some of the convictions and prejudices of John Rivers. She is deeply religious and despite generally being able to see nuances, in some aspects, just like his, her view is too black and white. She too is used to very simple, moderate life, she too feels the need to help others. Only, unlike him, she realizes that in some aspects the best way to take care of others is to, first and foremost, take care of yourself. And this is where once again we witness her ability and willingness to see nuances. Unlike John Rivers, she realizes that when an idea, no matter how noble, turns into an obsession, might turn the devotee into someone as – and even more – dangerous than many egotists, opportunists and criminals out there. Rochester too is an austere, harsh man, but unlike John Rivers, he understands the other side too. He’s also full of love and tenderness and generosity. Not John Rivers, though.
"What struggle there was in him between Nature and Grace in this interval, I cannot tell: only singular gleams scintillated in his eyes, and strange shadows passed over his face. He is a good and a great man; but he forgets, pitilessly, the feelings and claims of little people, in pursuing his own large views. It is better for the insignificant to keep out of his way, lest, in his progress, he should trample them down"
John Rivers, albeit good and great man – as Jane herself refers to him – is tainted by the fatal weakness of seeing people as just a big herd and himself as the shepherd who needs to lead and support it. He fails to see them as individual human beings, which is good neither for them, nor for himself. He is ready to sacrifice himself and everyone else he deems necessary to achieve his grand dream. He has a big heart, but a narrow scope. He struggles with every genuine feeling that comes to him.
"You are original, and not timid. There is something brave in your spirit, as well as penetrating in your eye; but allow me to assure you that you partially misinterpret my emotions. I declare, the convulsion of the soul. That is just as fixed as a rock, firm set in the depths of a restless sea. Know me to be what I am - a cold hard man."
He is fanatic to the very core of his being and so lacking of confidence and self-esteem that he believes himself worthless without religion. To Jane religion is a dear friend helping her to keep her hope alive and make hard choices. It is essential part of her personality, but she sees it as something separated from her. She had her marvelous qualities even before turning to it. However, John Rivers sees his religious self as the only self that is of any worth. He affirms nothing else.
"You have taken my confidence by storm, and now it is much at your service. I am simply, in my original state - stripped of that blood-bleached robe with which Christianity covers human deformity - a cold, hard, ambitious man. My ambition is unlimited: my desire to rise higher - insatiable. I watch you with interest, but not because I deeply compassionate what you have gone through, or what you still suffer."
His words show that he too is possessed by a deep passion. But it is a cold flame that inflames it. His goal is noble, but not his ways. He rejects his individuality and that of others, the idea of happiness and self-indulgence. He forgets that every love is first and foremost love for the self. It is from this love that our love for others emanates. If we give up on ourselves, we give up on everyone else. If all you do is just give and give and sacrifice and sacrifice yourself, one day you will find that you have run out of substance and you have nothing left to give. And you will be gone, unable to help anyone with anything. And it will happen quickly. As it really does happen with him. But, as Jane herself proves, if you use your goodness and generosity sparingly enough and not forget yourself, you will be able to preserve yourself and therefore help others for a longer period and in a more quality way. Sometimes the best way to be strong is to let yourself be weak. I choose weak, but long-burning candle over bright and short-burning one. Jane is not as free-thinking as Rochester in some regards, but she does share his warmth, his willingness to forgive, the flexibility of his mind, his dream of happy and content life. She admits her own – and his – importance. It is always hard to decide how much to give to others and how much to keep to ourselves. It’s the hardest balance to keep. The one between the self and the world.
With all said, I do believe that John Rivers, cold as he was, in his own way did love her. But he was too absorbed by his overblown idea of humanity and sacrifice and his refusal to see people as anything else than helpless victims and himself and Jane as the necessary sacrifice laid on the sacred alter and soon to be consumed. For awhile Jane is tempted. For awhile he is as big a temptation as Rochester. In the end though her spirit prevails, she breaks free, she remembers who she truly is and whom she needs to be with. The ending brought me so much happiness. I still stand by my claim that Mr. Rochester is the sweetest marshmallow of a man I have come across. And Jane agrees with me. Or, maybe I should say, I agree with her. This is one of my most favourite novels and, in some ways, the favourite. It was the book that made me realize that simplicity and depth don’t mutually exclude each other. It is a simple story, but it tells us so much. And Jane herself, she doesn’t possess the grayness we all appreciate so much in characters and consider to be making them deeper and more interesting. In this regard Jane is not complex – she is perfectly good, kind and amiable girl – but she is a deep character that speaks to me from the distance of 178 years. And I hear her voice. She exhorts me to be compassionate, to be strong in the face of adversity, to be equally kind to myself and others, to love myself and others willingly and openly, without shame, without regret, without reserve. She remains a quiet power in my consciousness that I will never separate with. Thank you, Jane.
Read count: 2
P.S. My only regret is that I didn’t provide Mr. Rochester with enough attention. I feel that I should have explored his character more thoroughly, so this review will probably go through a substantial redaction at some point. Otherwise it was a really nice experience.
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"I’m so excited to be reading JE in original. I had read it only in Bulgarian. I am actually tempted to go and buy it in English, even though that wouldn’t be reasonable, because I’m trying to save money. Can’t afford buying the same book twice. Oh, I hope something happens to the copy I already have! Jane, I love you. You are way too cool!"
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"What a consternation of soul was mine that dreary afternoon! How all my brain was in tumult, and all my heart in insurrection! Yet in what darkness, what dense ignorance, was the mental battle fought! I could not answer the ceaseless inward question - why I thus suffered?"
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"“And what is hell? Can you tell me that?” “A pit full of fire”. “And should you like to fall into that pit, and to be burning there for ever?” “No, sir.” “What must you do to avoid it?” “I must keep in good health, and not die.”"
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"If I had left a good home and kind parents, this would have been the hour when I should most keenly have regretted the separation; that wind would then have saddened my heart; this obscure chaos would have disturbed my peace! as it was, I derived from both a strange excitement, and reckless and feverish, I wished the wind to howl more wildly, the gloom to deepen to darkness, and the confusion to rise to clamour."
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"“If all the world hated you, and believed you wicked, while your own conscience approved you, and absolved you from guilt, you would not be without friends.”"
February 27, 2016
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"I know I should think well of myself; but that is not enough: if others don’t love me I would rather die than live - I cannot bear to be solitary and hated. Тo gain some real affection I would willingly submit to have the bone of my arm broken, or to let a bull toss me, or to stand behind a kicking horse, and let it dash its hoof at my chest..."
February 27, 2016
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"From the day she left I was no longer the same: with her was gone every settled feeling"
February 28, 2016
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"I believed in the existence of other and more vivid kinds of goodness, and what I believed in I wished to behold. Who blames me? Many, no doubt; and I shall be called discontented. I could not help it: the restlessness was in my nature; it agitated me to pain sometimes."
February 28, 2016
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"My sole relief was to let my heart be heaved by the exultant movement, which, while it swelled it in trouble, expanded it with life; to open my inward ear to a tale that was never ended - a tale my imagination created, and narrated continuously; quickened with all of incident, life, fire, feeling, that I desired and had not in my actual existence."
February 28, 2016
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"Women are supposed to be very calm generally: but women feel just as men feel; It is thoughtless to condemn them, or laugh at them, if they seek to do more or learn more than custom has pronounced necessary for their sex."
February 28, 2016
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"On the hill-top above me sat the rising moon; pale yet as a cloud, but brightening momentarily, she looked over Hay, which, half lost in trees, sent up a blue smoke from its few chimneys: it was yet a mile distant, but in the absolute hush I could hear plainly its thin murmurs of life."
February 28, 2016
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"I love Jane, but a treacherous thought comes to me when Mr. Rochester is on screen. “Dump her” I say. “Dump her and take me”. No other character inflicts on me such a shameless and inappropriate amount of girly giggle that so appalled my teachers once. I love him. <3 <3 P.S. And if someone dares to laugh at me because of the little hearts, see if I care. I’m sure Mr. R would have appreciated them. Yep."
February 28, 2016
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"No wonder you have rather the look of another world. I marvelled where you had got that sort of face. When you came on me in Hay Lane last night, I thought unaccountably of fairy tales, and had half a mind to demand whether you had bewitched my horse: I am not sure yet."
February 28, 2016
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"For he had great, dark eyes, and very fine eyes, too - not without a certain change in their depths sometimes, which, if it was not softness, reminded you, at least, of that feeling."
February 28, 2016
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"I was a feeling fellow enough, partial to the unfledged, unfostered, and unlucky; but Fortune has knocked me about since: she has even kneaded me with her knuckles, and now I flatter myself I am hard and tough as an India-rubber ball; pervious, though, through a chink or two still, and with one sentient point in the middle of the lump. Yes: does that leave hope for me?"
February 28, 2016
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"I don’t think you have a right to command me, merely because you are older than I, or because you have seen more of the world than I have; your claim to superiority depends on the use you have made of your time and experience."
February 28, 2016
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"I know what sort of a mind I have placed in communication with my own: I know it is one not liable to take infection: it is a peculiar mind: it is a unique one. Happily I do not mean to harm it: but, if I did, it would not take harm from me. The more you and I converse, the better; for while I cannot blight you, you may refresh me."
February 28, 2016
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"In my secret soul I knew that his great kindness to me was balanced by unjust severity to many others…I cannot deny that I grieved for his grief…"
February 29, 2016
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"My eyes were drawn involuntarily to his face; I could not keep them under control. I looked, and had an acute pleasure in looking, - a precious yet poignant pleasure; pure gold, with a steely point of agony: a pleasure like what the thirst-perishing man might feel who knows the well to which he has crept is poisoned, yet stoops and drinks divine draughts nevertheless."
February 29, 2016
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"He is not of their kind. I believe he is of mine; - I am sure he is - I feel akin to him - I understand the language of his countenance and movements: I have something in my brain and heart, in my blood and nerves, that assimilates me mentally to him. While I breathe and think, I must love him."
March 1, 2016
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"I had yet an aching heart. I still felt as a wanderer on the face of the earth; but I experienced firmer trust in myself and my own powers, and less withering dread of oppression. The gaping wound of my wrongs, too, was now quite healed; and the flame of resentment extinguished."
March 1, 2016
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"It is as if I had a string somewhere under my left ribs, tightly and inextricably knotted to a similar string situated in the corresponding quarter of your little frame. And if that boisterous Channel, and two hundred miles or so of land come broad between us, I am afraid that cord of communion will be snapt; and then I’ve a nervous notion I should take to bleeding inwardly. As for you, - you’d forget me."
March 1, 2016
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"I have talked, face to face, with what I reverence, with what I delight in, - with an original, a vigorous, an expanded mind. I have known you and it strikes me with terror and anguish to feel I absolutely must be torn from you for ever. I see the necessity of departure; and it is like looking on the necessity of death."
March 1, 2016
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"Do you think, because I am poor, plain and little, I am soulless and heartlessI have as much soul as you, - and full as much heart! I should have made it as hard for you to leave me, as it is now for me to leave you. I am not talking through the medium of custom, conventionalities or mortal flesh; - it is my spirit that addresses your spirit; as if both had passed through the grave, and we stood equal at God’s feet."
March 1, 2016
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"I am no bird; and no net ensnares me; I am a free human being with an independent will."
March 1, 2016
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"You - you strange, you almost unearthly thing! - I love as my own flesh. You - poor and obscure, and small and plain as you are…"
March 1, 2016
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"Human beings never enjoy complete happiness in this world. I was not born for a different destiny..."
March 2, 2016
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"To women who please me only by their faces, I am the very devil when I find out they have neither souls nor hearts - when they open to me a perspective of flatness, triviality, and imbecility, coarseness, and ill-temper: but to the clear eye and eloquent tongue, to the soul made of fire, and the character that bends but does not break - at once supple and stable, tractable and consistent - I am ever tender and true."
March 2, 2016
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"I never met your likeness. You please me, and you master me - you seem to submit, and I like the sense of pliancy you impart; and while I am twining the soft, silken skein round my finger, it sends a thrill up my arm to my heart. I am influenced - conquered; and the influence is sweeter than I can express; and the conquest I undergo has a witchery beyond any triumph I can win."
March 2, 2016
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"I thought of the life that lay before me - your life - an existence more expansive and stirring than my own: as much more so as the depths of the sea to which the brook runs are than the shallows of its own strait channel. I wondered why moralists call this world a dreary wilderness: for me it blossomed like a rose."
March 2, 2016
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"Nothing had smitten me, or scathed me, or maimed me. And yet where was the Jane Eyre of yesterday? - where was her life? - where were her prospects? My hopes were all dead—struck with a subtle doom, such as, in one night, fell on all the first-born in the land of Egypt. I looked on my cherished wishes, yesterday so blooming and glowing; they lay stark, chill, livid corpses that could never revive."
March 2, 2016
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"If I could go out of life now, without too sharp a pang, it would be well for me, then I should not have to make the effort of cracking my heart-strings in rending them from among his. I must leave him, it appears. I do not want to leave him - I cannot leave him."
March 2, 2016
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"You know nothing about me, and nothing about the sort of love of which I am capable. Every atom of your flesh is as dear to me as my own: in pain and sickness it would still be dear. Your mind is my treasure, and if it were broken, it would be my treasure still..."
March 2, 2016
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"What necessity is there to dwell on the Past, when the Present is so much surer - the Future so much brighter?"
March 2, 2016
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"I have for the first time found what I can truly love - I have found you. You are my sympathy - my better self - my good angel. I am bound to you with a strong attachment. I think you good, gifted, lovely: a fervent, a solemn passion is conceived in my heart; it leans to you, draws you to my centre and spring of life, wraps my existence about you, and, kindling in pure, powerful flame, fuses you and me in one."
March 2, 2016
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"I was experiencing an ordeal: a hand of fiery iron grasped my vitals. Terrible moment: full of struggle, blackness, burning! Not a human being that ever lived could wish to be loved better than I was loved; and him who thus loved me I absolutely worshipped: and I must renounce love and idol. One drear word comprised my intolerable duty - “Depart!”"
March 2, 2016
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"All happiness will be torn away with you. Is it better to drive a fellow-creature to despair than to transgress a mere human law, no man being injured by the breach?"
March 2, 2016
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"His fury was wrought to the highest: he must yield to it for a moment, whatever followed; he crossed the floor and seized my arm and grasped my waist. He seemed to devour me with his flaming glance: physically, I felt, at the moment, powerless as stubble exposed to the draught and glow of a furnace: mentally, I still possessed my soul, and with it the certainty of ultimate safety."
March 2, 2016
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"Never was anything at once so frail and so indomitable. I could bend her with my finger and thumb: and what good would it do if I bent, if I uptore, if I crushed her? Consider that eye, defying me, with more than courage - with a stern triumph. It is you, spirit - with will and energy, and virtue and purity - that I want: not alone your brittle frame."
March 3, 2016
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"My rest might have been blissful enough, only a sad heart broke it. It plained of its gaping wounds, its inward bleeding, its riven chords. It trembled for him and his doom; it bemoaned him with bitter pity; it demanded him with ceaseless longing; and, impotent as a bird with both wings broken, it still quivered its shattered pinions in vain attempts to seek him."
March 3, 2016
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"He looks quiet; but he hides a fever in his vitals. You would think him gentle, yet he is inexorable as death."
March 3, 2016
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"I love you, and I know you prefer me. It is not despair of success that keeps me dumb. If I offered my heart, I believe you would accept it. But that heart is already laid on a sacred altar: the fire is arranged round it. It will soon be no more than a sacrifice consumed."
March 3, 2016
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"Now, that little space was given to delirium and delusion. I rested my temples on the breast of temptation, and put my neck voluntarily under her yoke of flowers. I tasted her cup. The pillow was burning: there is an asp in the garland: the wine has a bitter taste: her promises are hollow - her offers false…"
March 3, 2016
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"You are original, and not timid. There is something brave in your spirit, as well as penetrating in your eye; but allow me to assure you that you partially misinterpret my emotions. I declare, the convulsion of the soul. That is just as fixed as a rock, firm set in the depths of a restless sea. Know me to be what I am - a cold hard man."
March 3, 2016
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"You have taken my confidence by storm, and now it is much at your service. I am simply, in my original state - stripped of that blood-bleached robe with which Christianity covers human deformity - a cold, hard, ambitious man. My ambition is unlimited: my desire to rise higher - insatiable. I watch you with interest, but not because I deeply compassionate what you have gone through, or what you still suffer."
March 4, 2016
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"And I shall see it again, in dreams when I sleep by the Ganges: and again in a more remote hour - when another slumber overcomes me - on the shore of a darker stream!"
March 4, 2016
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"I shuddered as he spoke: I felt his influence in my marrow - his hold on my limbs…How much of him was saint, how much mortal, I could not heretofore tell…"
March 4, 2016
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"To me, he was in reality become no longer flesh, but marble; his eye was a cold, bright, blue gem; his tongue a speaking instrument - nothing more."
March 4, 2016
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"It was torture - refined, lingering torture. It kept up a slow fire of indignation and a trembling trouble of grief, which harassed and crushed me altogether. I felt how - if I were his wife, this good man, pure as the deep sunless source, could soon kill me, without drawing from my veins a single drop of blood, or receiving on his own crystal conscience the faintest stain of crime."
March 4, 2016
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"What struggle there was in him between Nature and Grace in this interval, I cannot tell: only singular gleams scintillated in his eyes, and strange shadows passed over his face. He is a good and a great man; but he forgets, pitilessly, the feelings and claims of little people, in pursuing his own large views. It is better for the insignificant to keep out of his way, lest, in his progress, he should trample them down"
March 4, 2016
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"All men of talent, whether they be men of feeling or not; whether they be zealots, or aspirants, or despots have their sublime moments, when they subdue and rule. I felt veneration so strong that its impetus thrust me at once to the point I had so long shunned. I was tempted to cease struggling with him - to rush down the torrent of his will into the gulf of his existence, and there lose my own."
March 4, 2016
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"I stood motionless under my hierophant’s touch. My refusals were forgotten - my fears overcome - my wrestlings paralysed. The Impossible was fast becoming the Possible. All was changing utterly with a sudden sweep. Life rolled together like a scroll - death’s gates opening, showed eternity beyond: it seemed, that for safety and bliss there, all here might be sacrificed in a second. The dim room was full of visions."
March 4, 2016
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"The inquiry was put in gentle tones: he drew me to him as gently. Oh, that gentleness! how far more potent is it than force! I could resist his wrath: I grew pliant as a reed under his kindness."
March 4, 2016
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"Never will, says the vision? I always woke and found it an empty mockery; and I was desolate and abandoned - my life dark, lonely, hopeless - my soul athirst and forbidden to drink - my heart famished and never to be fed. Gentle, soft dream, nestling in my arms now, you will fly, too, as your sisters have all fled before you: but kiss me before you go - embrace me."
March 4, 2016
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"You must not go. No - I have touched you, heard you, felt the comfort of your presence - the sweetness of your consolation: I cannot give up these joys. I have little left in myself - I must have you. The world may laugh - may call me absurd, selfish - but it does not signify. My very soul demands you: it will be satisfied, or it will take deadly vengeance on its frame."
March 4, 2016
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"You are no ruin, - no lightning-struck tree: you are green and vigorous. Plants will grow about your roots, whether you ask them or not, because they take delight in your bountiful shadow; and as they grow they will lean towards you, and wind round you, because your strength offers them so safe a prop."
March 5, 2016
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I'm going to read it this year, if possible in this month itself. The lead female characters are something to ponder upon. Your rating and timely quotes are motivating for this read.
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Pradnya wrote: "I'm going to read it this year, if possible in this month itself. The lead female characters are something to ponder upon. Your rating and timely quotes are motivating for this read."
Pradnya, I’m very glad I have managed to attract your attention to it. It's one of my all time favourites and I’m excited to see what you will make out of it. I really hope you like it. :)
Pradnya, I’m very glad I have managed to attract your attention to it. It's one of my all time favourites and I’m excited to see what you will make out of it. I really hope you like it. :)
Have you seen the 1943 version with Orson Welles and Joan Fontaine? It is my favorite adaptation of this perfect work, the quintessential gothic romance. Thank you for your review, Vessey! :D
Luke wrote: "Have you seen the 1943 version with Orson Welles and Joan Fontaine? It is my favorite adaptation of this perfect work, the quintessential gothic romance. Thank you for your review, Vessey! :D"
No! But I will. Thanks, Luke! :) Have you seen the 2011 version with Michael Fassbender? It is the only one I've seen. :( P.S. This isn't a review. This is me complaining that I can't write one! Unless you're thanking me in advance. How sweet of you. :)
No! But I will. Thanks, Luke! :) Have you seen the 2011 version with Michael Fassbender? It is the only one I've seen. :( P.S. This isn't a review. This is me complaining that I can't write one! Unless you're thanking me in advance. How sweet of you. :)
Oh! I didn't know that version existed until you told me! I must see it! Fassbender and Wasikowska are two of my favorites and I really love this story! (Thank you in advance, but I felt myself I couldn't properly review Pride and Prejudice, so, a non-review is still a review! Sometimes the best compliment we can give something is our inability to quantify our love for it!)
Best! Luke :D
Best! Luke :D
Luke wrote: "Oh! I didn't know that version existed until you told me! I must see it! Fassbender and Wasikowska are two of my favorites and I really love this story! (Thank you in advance, but I felt myself I c..."
Hey, look at that. I really like the way you think! :)
Hey, look at that. I really like the way you think! :)
Seemita wrote: "Oh good to see you find some love there, Vessey! :) I would watch out for your review!"
Thank you, Seemita! You’re very sweet and kind, as always. I love all your reviews. :)
Thank you, Seemita! You’re very sweet and kind, as always. I love all your reviews. :)
Kalliope wrote: "Haha.. you made me smile with this enthusiastic snippet of a review."
Surprisingly, sometimes I have this effect on people. Thanks, Kalliope! :)
Surprisingly, sometimes I have this effect on people. Thanks, Kalliope! :)
That's a description of Rochester I haven't heard before. :D I look forward to reading more of your thoughts, Vessey!
Lily wrote: "That's a description of Rochester I haven't heard before. :D I look forward to reading more of your thoughts, Vessey!"
He's wonderful, isn't he? I love him! Thanks, Lily! Hope I manage to pack up something.
He's wonderful, isn't he? I love him! Thanks, Lily! Hope I manage to pack up something.
Mr. Rochester is bloody sexy and Jane is a dear angel. This book is awesome. I so look forward to your extended review :)
Jaidee wrote: "Mr. Rochester is bloody sexy and Jane is a dear angel. This book is awesome. I so look forward to your extended review :)"
They are, aren't they? Thanks, Jaidee! :)
They are, aren't they? Thanks, Jaidee! :)
I am reading an ARC of a book of short stories by established women authors, and the only requirement is that the stories be inspired by Jane Eyre and use "Reader, I Married Him" as the jumping off point. It is beyond wonderful, and I have enjoyed each one so far, although I've only read 5 or 6. Different time periods, different points of view ( one has a dog named Mr. Rochester), they are delightful! The book is titled: "Reader, I Married Him", edited by Tracy Chevalier.
Anuradha wrote: "Oh, I am so looking forward to your review of this! ^.^"
Thanks, friend! I'm looking forward to yours. :)
Thanks, friend! I'm looking forward to yours. :)
Diane wrote: "I am reading an ARC of a book of short stories by established women authors, and the only requirement is that the stories be inspired by Jane Eyre and use "Reader, I Married Him" as the jumping off..."
OMG, this sounds wonderful! I just have to get my hands on this book. And the dog Mr. Rochester! Ha-ha. Sounds great, Diane. Thank you so much for mentioning it. But what did you think of the real thing? It is certainly one of my all time favourite novels, though for now it’s still hard for me to explain why.
OMG, this sounds wonderful! I just have to get my hands on this book. And the dog Mr. Rochester! Ha-ha. Sounds great, Diane. Thank you so much for mentioning it. But what did you think of the real thing? It is certainly one of my all time favourite novels, though for now it’s still hard for me to explain why.
Vessey wrote: "Anuradha wrote: "Oh, I am so looking forward to your review of this! ^.^"
Thanks, friend! I'm looking forward to yours. :)"
I'm going backwards on reviewing books on the BBC's Big Read. I'm going to read books that I haven't read, and re-read the ones that I have. Jane Eyre isunfortunately tenth. But hopefully, I'll review it within the year. (I'm currently on no. 198)
Thanks, friend! I'm looking forward to yours. :)"
I'm going backwards on reviewing books on the BBC's Big Read. I'm going to read books that I haven't read, and re-read the ones that I have. Jane Eyre is
Anuradha wrote: "Vessey wrote: "Anuradha wrote: "Oh, I am so looking forward to your review of this! ^.^"
Thanks, friend! I'm looking forward to yours. :)"
I'm going backwards on reviewing books on the BBC's Big ..."
This sounds like a serious project! Okay. I will be keeping an eye for that review. So glad you too love "Jane Eyre". :)
Thanks, friend! I'm looking forward to yours. :)"
I'm going backwards on reviewing books on the BBC's Big ..."
This sounds like a serious project! Okay. I will be keeping an eye for that review. So glad you too love "Jane Eyre". :)
Hahaha! Yes, hopefully, there is some success. And it is very difficult to not like a book as good as J.E. :D
Of course I loved Jane Eyre, Vessey. I wouldn't really trust any woman who says she doesn't. It seems to speak to women with some elemental truth, but I never stopped to analyze why.
Diane wrote: "Of course I loved Jane Eyre, Vessey. I wouldn't really trust any woman who says she doesn't. It seems to speak to women with some elemental truth, but I never stopped to analyze why."
This story is seemingly simple, but it is actually rather complex. So glad you too love it, Diane. :)
This story is seemingly simple, but it is actually rather complex. So glad you too love it, Diane. :)
Artemis wrote: "Vessey, glad you love the book, and Jane herself, too! :D"
Artemis, I certainly do. It is like nothing I have ever read. So glad you share my love for them. :)
Artemis, I certainly do. It is like nothing I have ever read. So glad you share my love for them. :)
Beautiful review, Vessey. So this is Rochester guy you were talking about! You seem to know all those 19th century characters. Loved your reflections.
You've given great incentives to people who don't know this book to get to it, Vessey - and you contrast the character of Jane Eyre with Emily Brontë's Catherine Earnshaw very astutely. For all Catherine's tempestuousness and unpredictability, Jane does seem to have the deeper feelings. Jane is more like Heathcliff really.
And as for Rochester, I feel that if I ever reread this book, I may be tempted to simply laugh at him....
And as for Rochester, I feel that if I ever reread this book, I may be tempted to simply laugh at him....
Sidharth wrote: "Beautiful review, Vessey. So this is Rochester guy you were talking about! You seem to know all those 19th century characters. Loved your reflections."
Oh, I wish I knew more of them! I really love losing myself in times past. Yep, that’s him. As you can see from Fionnuala’s comment, the opinions of him are very divided. I have always been with “I love Rochester’ team, so my calling you that is a good thing. See? And you thought it was a bad thing! You’re Mr. Rochester. :) Thank you so much for your kind words, Sidharth, and for sparing the time to read it. I’m afraid it turned out a bit too big.
Oh, I wish I knew more of them! I really love losing myself in times past. Yep, that’s him. As you can see from Fionnuala’s comment, the opinions of him are very divided. I have always been with “I love Rochester’ team, so my calling you that is a good thing. See? And you thought it was a bad thing! You’re Mr. Rochester. :) Thank you so much for your kind words, Sidharth, and for sparing the time to read it. I’m afraid it turned out a bit too big.
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”And as for Rochester, I feel that if I ever reread this book, I may be tempted to simply laughter at him....”
Ouch! :)
Fionnuala, thank you so much. If I have really done so well with this review as to convince other people to read it, my job is done. I am very glad you agree with me about Catherine and Jane. It hadn’t occurred to me to compare Jane to Heathcliff…I suppose you mean that just like Heathcliff cares for Catherine more than she for him, Jane cares for Mr. Rochester more than he for her. I don’t think so, but I think I understand why some people don’t like him. I myself don’t like everything about him. Many thanks. :)
”And as for Rochester, I feel that if I ever reread this book, I may be tempted to simply laughter at him....”
Ouch! :)
Fionnuala, thank you so much. If I have really done so well with this review as to convince other people to read it, my job is done. I am very glad you agree with me about Catherine and Jane. It hadn’t occurred to me to compare Jane to Heathcliff…I suppose you mean that just like Heathcliff cares for Catherine more than she for him, Jane cares for Mr. Rochester more than he for her. I don’t think so, but I think I understand why some people don’t like him. I myself don’t like everything about him. Many thanks. :)
Vessey wrote: "It hadn’t occurred to me to compare Jane to Heathcliff…I suppose you mean that just like Heathcliff cares for Catherine more than she for him,.."
No, that's not what I meant, Vessy - sorry for not explaining better. I rather thought that Heathcliff, like Jane, keeps his feelings under wrap most of the time, suffering more silently, unlike Catherine who likes to exteriorise her feelings. And of course Heathcliff comes to the Earnshaw family as an unwanted relative in the same way Jane arrives at the Reid household - they are both outcasts and have to fight harder as a result.
And it's not that I don't 'like' Rochester, it's just that he is kind of unreal, I can't believe in him much - that's why I don't take him seriously. But there are many 'unreal' characters in literature, and Rochester does seem to stand back and laugh at himself from time to time.
No, that's not what I meant, Vessy - sorry for not explaining better. I rather thought that Heathcliff, like Jane, keeps his feelings under wrap most of the time, suffering more silently, unlike Catherine who likes to exteriorise her feelings. And of course Heathcliff comes to the Earnshaw family as an unwanted relative in the same way Jane arrives at the Reid household - they are both outcasts and have to fight harder as a result.
And it's not that I don't 'like' Rochester, it's just that he is kind of unreal, I can't believe in him much - that's why I don't take him seriously. But there are many 'unreal' characters in literature, and Rochester does seem to stand back and laugh at himself from time to time.
Oh it wasn't long at all. It is actually the first time I have actually wanted to read it. Till now, all my friends just keep giving it 4 or 5 stars without telling why.
@ first sentence from msg26. If I understand the word 'marshmallow' properly, I think you should reserve that judgement till you meet Prince Myshkin from Dostoyevsky''s 'The Idiot'. He is a real softie and Mr.goody-two-shoes if there ever was one.
@ first sentence from msg26. If I understand the word 'marshmallow' properly, I think you should reserve that judgement till you meet Prince Myshkin from Dostoyevsky''s 'The Idiot'. He is a real softie and Mr.goody-two-shoes if there ever was one.
Vessey, first of all, what a great insightful piece of writing. I love the way you pulled in other quotes from other books and made the parallels with this book. I'm always trying to get people to see books in a broader context than just what exists in the pages. You've done a wonderful job of that here. Reading should build on other reading.
You must remember that Hades is the Lord of the Underworld and even though that might be where all the most interesting people and the best parties are being thrown he might be trying to seduce you into committing some folly so he can add you to his collection. Love ya Hades! :-) I'm only kidding Hades, don't fireball my lawn furniture or anything. haha
An amazing piece of scholarship here Vessey. I'm beyond impressed! Who wouldn't want to read this book after reading this review? I for one am chalking it up for a reread. I will have to sharpen my pencils in a futile attempt to match this great piece of writing.
You must remember that Hades is the Lord of the Underworld and even though that might be where all the most interesting people and the best parties are being thrown he might be trying to seduce you into committing some folly so he can add you to his collection. Love ya Hades! :-) I'm only kidding Hades, don't fireball my lawn furniture or anything. haha
An amazing piece of scholarship here Vessey. I'm beyond impressed! Who wouldn't want to read this book after reading this review? I for one am chalking it up for a reread. I will have to sharpen my pencils in a futile attempt to match this great piece of writing.
A truly excellent review of one of my favorite books, and the ensuing conversation is equally enjoyable. I really loved the comparison between Jane and Catherine from Wuthering Heights. I think that Wuthering Heights has such a reputation for storm und drang that, as you said, when people think of passion and fiery will, they think of Catherine and her tragic love on the windswept moors. But as you so eloquently put it, it is Jane that is the true force of nature. Thank you for reminding me of why I love this book!
Fionnuala wrote: "Vessey wrote: "It hadn’t occurred to me to compare Jane to Heathcliff…I suppose you mean that just like Heathcliff cares for Catherine more than she for him,.."
No, that's not what I meant, Vessy ..."
Oh, Fionnuala, I hadn’t thought of it this way. Very good comparison! And you say that I am being astute. :) Regarding Mr. Rochester, what you’re saying reminds me of what Virginia Woolf says in ‘A Room of One’s Own”. She wasn’t too crazy about “Jane Eyre” and uses it as just another example how talented women don’t do the best they are capable of due to not auspicious enough circumstances. She says that CB didn’t have the necessary experience and education, and she points out as an example exactly him. She says he feels kind of ”in the dark” Did you know that he was the inspiration for Rhett Butler?
No, that's not what I meant, Vessy ..."
Oh, Fionnuala, I hadn’t thought of it this way. Very good comparison! And you say that I am being astute. :) Regarding Mr. Rochester, what you’re saying reminds me of what Virginia Woolf says in ‘A Room of One’s Own”. She wasn’t too crazy about “Jane Eyre” and uses it as just another example how talented women don’t do the best they are capable of due to not auspicious enough circumstances. She says that CB didn’t have the necessary experience and education, and she points out as an example exactly him. She says he feels kind of ”in the dark” Did you know that he was the inspiration for Rhett Butler?
Sidharth wrote: "Oh it wasn't long at all. It is actually the first time I have actually wanted to read it. Till now, all my friends just keep giving it 4 or 5 stars without telling why.
@ first sentence from msg26..."
Ha-ha. He sounds like a real marshmallow, then. :) When I call a man marshmallow or something, it doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s a “softy and Mr. goody-two-shoes” (this made me laugh) :) It means that I like him very much. Mr. Rochester certainly isn’t Mr. goody-two-shoes, but he’s awesome! Oh, I’m so happy I have convinced you to read “Jane Eyre”, Sidharth! :)
@ first sentence from msg26..."
Ha-ha. He sounds like a real marshmallow, then. :) When I call a man marshmallow or something, it doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s a “softy and Mr. goody-two-shoes” (this made me laugh) :) It means that I like him very much. Mr. Rochester certainly isn’t Mr. goody-two-shoes, but he’s awesome! Oh, I’m so happy I have convinced you to read “Jane Eyre”, Sidharth! :)
Jeffrey wrote: "Vessey, first of all, what a great insightful piece of writing. I love the way you pulled in other quotes from other books and made the parallels with this book. I'm always trying to get people to ..."
Jeffrey, this is the best comment I have received. OMG, my heart missed a beat or two while I was reading it. :) Thank you SO much!
And don’t worry about Hades. He’s too afraid of me to try something like that, because I’m about to find out his real name. Either that or he will stay forever known as Sponge Bob Square Pants, Lord of the Underwater. :)
And yes! Do read “Jane Eyere’ again. And I’m sure that the review you’ll pull off will be absolutely awesome, like all your reviews. You'll put me in the dust. :) I’ve been pestering Sabah to do the same, but she doesn’t want to! I’m glad I convinced at least you and Sidharth! Two down. I have many more to convert. Thanks again! You’re way too awesome. :)
Jeffrey, this is the best comment I have received. OMG, my heart missed a beat or two while I was reading it. :) Thank you SO much!
And don’t worry about Hades. He’s too afraid of me to try something like that, because I’m about to find out his real name. Either that or he will stay forever known as Sponge Bob Square Pants, Lord of the Underwater. :)
And yes! Do read “Jane Eyere’ again. And I’m sure that the review you’ll pull off will be absolutely awesome, like all your reviews. You'll put me in the dust. :) I’ve been pestering Sabah to do the same, but she doesn’t want to! I’m glad I convinced at least you and Sidharth! Two down. I have many more to convert. Thanks again! You’re way too awesome. :)
Cindy wrote: "A truly excellent review of one of my favorite books, and the ensuing conversation is equally enjoyable. I really loved the comparison between Jane and Catherine from Wuthering Heights. I think tha..."
Thank you so much, Cindy! Yes, the tragic love stories are usually those that provoke and excite us the most, yet, you too have felt that Jane is the one with the deeper and more substantial feelings, despite WH being so dark and stormy. I’m so glad you love “Jane Eyre”. It is one of my favourites too. Many thanks. :)
Thank you so much, Cindy! Yes, the tragic love stories are usually those that provoke and excite us the most, yet, you too have felt that Jane is the one with the deeper and more substantial feelings, despite WH being so dark and stormy. I’m so glad you love “Jane Eyre”. It is one of my favourites too. Many thanks. :)
Ah ... it's so good to have you back, Vessey. In full blast, too.
(In fact, have you become even ... fuller? It feels as if there're more layers to your writing now. I can't quite put my finger on it ... not at this hour anyway. |-)
I loved the passion (NB! not to be confused with "love") in Wuthering Heights, but now you make me think I might've picked up the wrong Bronte sister ....
BTW, have you read their poems? This one in particular still strikes me like a gong.
(In fact, have you become even ... fuller? It feels as if there're more layers to your writing now. I can't quite put my finger on it ... not at this hour anyway. |-)
I loved the passion (NB! not to be confused with "love") in Wuthering Heights, but now you make me think I might've picked up the wrong Bronte sister ....
BTW, have you read their poems? This one in particular still strikes me like a gong.
Kalin wrote: "Ah ... it's so good to have you back, Vessey. In full blast, too.
(In fact, have you become even ... fuller? It feels as if there're more layers to your writing now. I can't quite put my finger on..."
Oh Kal, thank you so much! I am so glad you see a new depth in this review. I have to admit that I too feel it differently compared to my other reviews. Writing this one was very cathartic and I was very happy to do it. I’m so glad I have ignited your interest toward “Jane Eyre’. It shouldn’t be missed for sure! I love both JE and WH. Both are great. For different reasons and in a different way, but both are wonderful. And thank you so much for Emily’s poem. I can hardly express the feeling it provoked in me. I haven’t read their poetry, but they have been on my mind – and, I think, on my list – ever since you mentioned them when we became friends. Many thanks! :)
(In fact, have you become even ... fuller? It feels as if there're more layers to your writing now. I can't quite put my finger on..."
Oh Kal, thank you so much! I am so glad you see a new depth in this review. I have to admit that I too feel it differently compared to my other reviews. Writing this one was very cathartic and I was very happy to do it. I’m so glad I have ignited your interest toward “Jane Eyre’. It shouldn’t be missed for sure! I love both JE and WH. Both are great. For different reasons and in a different way, but both are wonderful. And thank you so much for Emily’s poem. I can hardly express the feeling it provoked in me. I haven’t read their poetry, but they have been on my mind – and, I think, on my list – ever since you mentioned them when we became friends. Many thanks! :)
Elyse wrote: "Vessey, there are so many phenomenal things you have said and this review, oh my God I don't even know where to begin...
I'm on a small iPhone - in the car - while my daughter is driving us to the ..."
Wow. Elyse, you never cease to amaze me and leave me speechless with your generosity and kindness. This is one of the best and most encouraging comments I have received. Regarding the comparison between Jane Austen and the Brontes, you may read Virginia Woolf’s “A Room of One’s Own”. She mentions all three of them, though she doesn’t show herself particularly fond of “Jane Eyre”. Thank you so much, and yes! Get back to me when you’re ready. I will be so happy to hear your thoughts. Thanks! :) P.S. Thank you for what you said about my dedication to Jeffrey. It's the same Jeffrey whose review of "An Unnecessary Woman" you read awhile go. He's fabulous and I would recommend him to anyone. :)
I'm on a small iPhone - in the car - while my daughter is driving us to the ..."
Wow. Elyse, you never cease to amaze me and leave me speechless with your generosity and kindness. This is one of the best and most encouraging comments I have received. Regarding the comparison between Jane Austen and the Brontes, you may read Virginia Woolf’s “A Room of One’s Own”. She mentions all three of them, though she doesn’t show herself particularly fond of “Jane Eyre”. Thank you so much, and yes! Get back to me when you’re ready. I will be so happy to hear your thoughts. Thanks! :) P.S. Thank you for what you said about my dedication to Jeffrey. It's the same Jeffrey whose review of "An Unnecessary Woman" you read awhile go. He's fabulous and I would recommend him to anyone. :)
Nothing I say could possibly do this brilliant review justice, Vessey, so instead I'll simply bow in admiration!
*bows to Vessey*
*bows to Vessey*
David "proud Gleeman in Branwen's adventuring party" wrote: "Nothing I say could possibly do this brilliant review justice, Vessey, so instead I'll simply bow in admiration!
*bows to Vessey*"
OMG. Thank you SO much, you sweet, wonderful man! Thanks. I'm bowing too. :)
*bows to Vessey*"
OMG. Thank you SO much, you sweet, wonderful man! Thanks. I'm bowing too. :)
Anuradha wrote: "I love this review as much as I love Rochester! *_*"
Thank you so much! For loving my review and for sharing my love for Mr. Rochester. He's fabulous, isn't he? :)
Thank you so much! For loving my review and for sharing my love for Mr. Rochester. He's fabulous, isn't he? :)
Maria wrote: "i am re-reading this for a bookclub and enjoying more than the 1st time."
Sounds great. It's a marvelous book, indeed.
Sounds great. It's a marvelous book, indeed.
Vessey wrote: "Anuradha wrote: "I love this review as much as I love Rochester! *_*"
Thank you so much! For loving my review and for sharing my love for Mr. Rochester. He's fabulous, isn't he? :)"
Oh, god yes! He's the best. <3
And there is no doubt about how wonderfully enchanting your reviews are! :D
Thank you so much! For loving my review and for sharing my love for Mr. Rochester. He's fabulous, isn't he? :)"
Oh, god yes! He's the best. <3
And there is no doubt about how wonderfully enchanting your reviews are! :D
Anuradha wrote: "Vessey wrote: "Anuradha wrote: "I love this review as much as I love Rochester! *_*"
Thank you so much! For loving my review and for sharing my love for Mr. Rochester. He's fabulous, isn't he? :)"..."
Thank you!!! Huge hugs <3
Thank you so much! For loving my review and for sharing my love for Mr. Rochester. He's fabulous, isn't he? :)"..."
Thank you!!! Huge hugs <3
I'd had the fortune to visit the Bronte estate in the West Yorkshire Moors, which consequently was where most books were about. The vistas were awesome and I'd stayed in Manchester for the summer . I'd even seen the eerie Bronte graveyard as well.