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North and South by Elizabeth Gaskell
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"And yet, yo see, North and South has both met and made kind o' friend in this big smoky place."
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I almost feel like a fraud reviewing books like this. I know that there are probably many details that I miss entirely, some nuances that go straight over my head, but these are my thoughts...however scattered they are.

Margaret Hale's father has been the spiritual leader of his community of Helston for decades. Now he questions his faith...not necessarily his belief in God, but maybe the infallible constancy that ministers should have. While Margaret herself has been living among high society with her aunt for the last years, when her father decides to leave the church and uproot his family, she moves with her mother and father to the Northern city of Milton.

"Her keen enjoyment of every sensuous pleasure, was balanced finely, if not overbalanced, by her conscious pride in being able to do without them all, if need were."

Milton is an industrious city full of factories and rich tradesmen and merchants. But there are also the poor, the underfed, the "little guys" who work in those factories day after day just to make enough to feed their families. Margaret's first impression of Milton is not a good one, and her prejudice about her new home town is made known to any who will listen.

And while there were time that Margaret's prejudice really grated my nerves, she grows so much as a person during the course of this story that it's next to impossible not to empathize with her. Both of her parents seem to be weak in character, leaning so heavily on their daughter and giving her so much emotional responsibility as to question who the parents are. What did they do while she was away from them? By the end of the book...poor Margaret!!

"I have passed out of childhood into old age. I have had no youth - no womanhood; the hopes of womanhood have closed for me - for I shall never marry; and I anticipate cares and sorrows just as if I were an old woman, and with the same fearful spirit. I am weary of this continual call upon me for strength."

Mr. Hale has taken up tutoring those who wish to learn. One of his student is John Thornton, who happens to be one of the richer men in Milton.
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He and Margaret definitely do not hit it off on their first meeting. These are two very strong personalities, people with rigid convictions who aren't afraid of speaking their mind...and they often do.

Still, Thornton has a fascination with the outspoken Margaret.

"He almost said to himself that he did not like her, before their conversation ended; he tried so to compensate himself for the mortified feeling, that while he looked up on her with an admiration he could not repress, she looked at him with proud indifference, taking him, he though, for what, his irritation, he told himself he was - a great, rough fellow, with not a grace or a refinement about him. Her quiet coldness of demeanor he interpreted into contemptuousness, and resented it in his heart to the pitch of almost inclining him to get up and go away, and have nothing more to do with these Hales, and their superciliousness."
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Despite her disapproval of everything he is and does, he is continually drawn back to her; due to circumstance or compulsion, he always comes back. Margaret also wages a subtle battle with herself in regard to her feelings for Thornton...though she hides it extremely well. This was a frustrating aspect of the book for me. Thornton is a very kind man. He reveals his difficult childhood to Margaret, he becomes a very good friend of her father's, and shows the Hales every courtesy he can, despite their fairly low status in society. And yet Margaret takes her sweet time coming to terms with the fact that he's a very good person.

"Their intercourse had been one continued series of opposition..."

While this slow moving romance develops, the meat of the story is the industrial revolution taking place in towns like Milton. Factories needed workers, and often those workers were treated no better than animals. The threat of a strike is ever present. And a strike in those days, when no work meant no food, was much more violent than what it means today. Deplorable, dangerous, and inhumane working conditions led to chronic illness and death for many of the employees.

One such family portrayed in this book is the Higgins family. Nicholas, the father, and Bess and Mary, his daughters, are a huge part of the story. Not only are they fast friends of Margaret's, but Bess has some sort of sickness of the lungs from which she is dying. Her friendship with Margaret and her faith in God when every one around her is faithless is heartwarming and heartbreaking all at once.

Tragedy is ever present in this novel. Death comes to everyone, but it seemed to come an awful lot for the people in Margaret's life during the two plus years that she is in Milton.

"And that was death! It looked more peaceful than life..."
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So while this is definitely not an uplifting romance, it's definitely a story about friendship. Relationships can be formed with people from all walks of life, and it's those relationships that shape who you are. Margaret starts off resigned to her fate, living in this dirty, loud city with these boisterous, rude people. Her character development is by leaps and bounds and huge revelations.

"Oh! had any one such just cause to feel contempt for her? Mr. Thornton, above all people, on whom she had looked down from her imaginary heights till now! She suddenly found herself at his feet, and was strangely distressed at her fall."

Though the end is quite abrupt...it really needed more. After this epic journey of self discovery, to end a book in the middle of one of the most powerful scenes was a bit of a downer. And here's where I can tout the miniseries from which all of the pictures in this review came from. Rarely do I like a movie more than the book that it is about, but I sure did in this case! I'm glad that I read the book first, for sure. But the movie clarified some of my questions and romanticized the story enough for me to relate to it a bit more.

Buddy read with Blacky, Karen, Tea, Cathy, and Amaryllis...Muah!!!
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Reading Progress

January 6, 2013 – Shelved
January 6, 2013 – Shelved as: genre-historical-fiction
January 6, 2013 – Shelved as: recommendations
January 6, 2013 – Shelved as: epic
January 18, 2013 – Shelved as: e-pcs
February 12, 2013 – Started Reading
February 12, 2013 – Shelved as: buddy-reads
February 12, 2013 – Shelved as: genre-historical-romance
February 12, 2013 –
0.0% "I need a lovely romance and this has come highly recommended! I'm excited to read an AND watch the series...Thornton is pretty smokin' ;)
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February 13, 2013 –
14.0% ""Mr Thornton was in habits of authority himself, but she seemed to assume some kind of rule over him at once. He had been getting impatient at the loss of his time on a market-day, the moment before she appeared, yet now he calmly took a seat at her bidding." Sweet! He's totally thrown off at their first meeting. I love it!!!"
February 13, 2013 –
29.0%
February 14, 2013 –
47.0% ""His greatest comfort was in hugging his torment...""
February 14, 2013 –
49.0% ""He went along the crowded streets mechanically, winding in and out among the people, but never seeing them, --almost sick with longing for that one half hour--that one brief space of time when she clung to him, and her heart beat against his--to come once again."
Swooning again!!!!"
February 14, 2013 –
59.0% ""Now you would like to see that, wouldn't you?" Said he. "No! You must wait till you see her herself. She is far too perfect to be known by fragments. No mean brick shall be a specimen of the building of my palace.""
February 15, 2013 –
72.0% ""I have passed out of childhood into old age. I have had no youth - no womanhood; the hope of womanhood have closed for me - for I shall never marry; and I anticipate cares and sorrows just as if I were an old woman, and with the same fearful spirit. I am weary of this continual call upon me for strength.""
February 16, 2013 –
100.0% "Wow...gotta think about this review. Loved it though! What a personal journey of self discovery."
February 16, 2013 – Finished Reading
February 18, 2013 – Shelved as: genre-classics
February 18, 2013 – Shelved as: make-me-cry
February 18, 2013 – Shelved as: read-in-2013

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Blacky *Romance Addict* Nicole!!!!! You must!!! Must!!! ASAP!!!!! I can't tell you how great this is!!! And then you must watch the mini series!!! One of the best ever ever ever!!!! OMg Mr Thornton <3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Duchess Nicole Blacky wrote: "Nicole!!!!! You must!!! Must!!! ASAP!!!!! I can't tell you how great this is!!! And then you must watch the mini series!!! One of the best ever ever ever!!!! OMg Mr Thornton <3 <3 <3 <3 <3"

I had this rec'd after reviewing Persuasion, but was told it's a much easier read. I'm definitely going to read it..it sounds wonderful, and there's nothing swoonier than these old timey 'real' heroes.

I feel like such a loser...I always thought that this was about the American Civil War, lol! Nope, not even close!


Blacky *Romance Addict* oh that's the OTHER one! don't like those ahahahahahahah

this....

omg I don't know whether to rec you the series or the book first! I watched the series and became instantly in love with Thornton, he is so bloody fantastic!!!! You must watch it!


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Mo Blacky wrote: "Nicole!!!!! You must!!! Must!!! ASAP!!!!! I can't tell you how great this is!!! And then you must watch the mini series!!! One of the best ever ever ever!!!! OMg Mr Thornton <3 <3 <3 <3 <3"

Blacky, the mini-series was just fantastic - Mr Thornton - Colin Firth had a bit of competition there for a while but as he was my first love as Mr Darcy he won out in the end! Must watch that again sometime soon.


Duchess Nicole Blacky wrote: "oh that's the OTHER one! don't like those ahahahahahahah

this....

omg I don't know whether to rec you the series or the book first! I watched the series and became instantly in love with Thornton..."


Okay, really...I want to know if I should watch or read first...Sometimes the book ruins the movie because I pictured them so different in my head. Maybe I'll study some of the movie pics first, that way I have that image in my head when I read. You're getting me all excited!!


Blacky *Romance Addict* Oh I don't know, there close :DDDD Richard Armitage YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Duchess Nicole Mo wrote: "Blacky wrote: "Nicole!!!!! You must!!! Must!!! ASAP!!!!! I can't tell you how great this is!!! And then you must watch the mini series!!! One of the best ever ever ever!!!! OMg Mr Thornton

Blacky..."


OMG, it's Colin FIRTH?!? See, I prefer the newer version of P&P, so I always picture Darcy as my avatar pic....yummy.


Blacky *Romance Addict* Watch!!!! Watch!!!!!!!!!!!!! I read the book second and it was so great to have them in my mind and see those little scenes that were cut from the movie but in the book and I am just dying to watch it again <3 <3 <3


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This is Mr. Thornton and Margaret <3 <3 <3 <3 <3


Duchess Nicole Ooooh, I'm liking this guy!!!







Blacky *Romance Addict* Oh Thornton is just the swooniest!!!!!!! I didn't like him much at the beginning, but damn, I adored him by the end! Go and watch Nicole <3 <3 <3 it's just amazing!!! A-Mazing!


Duchess Nicole He's beautiful...Hmmm...I can't decide, can't decide.


Duchess Nicole Blacky wrote: "Oh Thornton is just the swooniest!!!!!!! I didn't like him much at the beginning, but damn, I adored him by the end! Go and watch Nicole <3 <3 <3 it's just amazing!!! A-Mazing!"

Watch first?!?!?! Read first?!?!?!


Blacky *Romance Addict* Watch! watch!!!!!!!! you'll be dying to read the book by the time you finish the movie anyway ahahahahah


Duchess Nicole Blacky wrote: "Watch! watch!!!!!!!! you'll be dying to read the book by the time you finish the movie anyway ahahahahah"

I just requested the movie from the library...if I can read the book before it comes in, then there you go...it's a race now. I'm so excited!!!!


Blacky *Romance Addict* ahahahahahah :DDDDDDDDDDD

Oh I'm so glad you're watching it!!! Not many people know of it, and I'm like a reving fan hahahha :DDDDD I bought the book in Croatian, but i don't like it because the translation is horriffic!!!!! So I bought it again in English :DDDDD Just love it <3


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Mo Duchess Nicole wrote: "Mo wrote: "Blacky wrote: "Nicole!!!!! You must!!! Must!!! ASAP!!!!! I can't tell you how great this is!!! And then you must watch the mini series!!! One of the best ever ever ever!!!! OMg Mr Thornt..."

I think I am a bit older than you and saw the original BBC version with Colin and fell instantly in love and nobody could surpass his Mr Darcy!


Duchess Nicole Mo wrote: "Duchess Nicole wrote: "Mo wrote: "Blacky wrote: "Nicole!!!!! You must!!! Must!!! ASAP!!!!! I can't tell you how great this is!!! And then you must watch the mini series!!! One of the best ever ever..."

I get so set in my ways...I've watched the 2005 version way too many times to see Darcy as anyone else, lol!


Blacky *Romance Addict* Oh yeah I definitely prefer Colin too :D I was like 13 when I first saw the mini-series with him eheheheheh


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Ordering the movie soon :). And then on to the book .


Duchess Nicole Awesome, Karen! I'll keep an eye out for updates!


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When will you be reading it Nicole?


Louise I'm just a stranger passing by to comment:).. I love this book with Richard Armitage in mind playing the perfect Mr. Thornton. *swoon


Blacky *Romance Addict* Hey I'd like to do a re-read of this one, let me know if you want to buddy :)


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The movie or the mini series isn't available here , I tried several rental places , will read the book later.


Blacky *Romance Addict* Oh that's too bad Karen :((((((( It's one of my favorites next to P&P and Jane Eyre :D


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P & p , I have watched and rewatched several times both the movie and the series ! Jane eyre was a series or a movie? I really don't know!

I have asked the dvd guy to try and get it , if not then the net is the last resort.


Blacky *Romance Addict* Karen wrote: "P & p , I have watched and rewatched several times both the movie and the series ! Jane eyre was a series or a movie? I really don't know!

I have asked the dvd guy to try and get it , if not then..."


Oh Jane Eyre has like a million adaptations, but the one from 2006 is my absolute favorite <3 <3 <3 <3 <3


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Ok , then will definitely try that one out , movie right ?

I'm sure the rental place should have it.


Blacky *Romance Addict* Karen wrote: "Ok , then will definitely try that one out , movie right ?

I'm sure the rental place should have it."


Nope it's a mini-series too :((((


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Ok .


Duchess Nicole I'm so sorry to all of you commenters...I guess I stopped getting notifications for this, b/c I was totes unaware. I'm starting a buddy read with Blacky, so anyone interested is free to join!!!


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When are you starting Nicole?


Duchess Nicole Karen wrote: "When are you starting Nicole?"

In a bit, I think. I need to write a couple of reviews and do a bit of housework.


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OK , I may join in if I can :)


Blacky *Romance Addict* YAY Karen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Duchess Nicole I'm so excited! I think this is just what I need...a nice one to really fall in love with.


Blacky *Romance Addict* Duchess Nicole wrote: "I'm so excited! I think this is just what I need...a nice one to really fall in love with."

<3 Oh Nicole and you'll just have to watch the show <3 it's one of the best next to P&P <3

btw I already have my English dictionary prepared LOL, saw some quotes and this will be a SLOW read for me, that's for sure. Not used to reading the old way of writing :D But very excited!


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Me too Nicole :) its been ages since I have read a classic !!!!

Yay ! I'm excited too:)


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Can I say I'm secretly happy it will be slow ! Time difference sucks :p:p


Blacky *Romance Addict* Karen wrote: "Can I say I'm secretly happy it will be slow ! Time difference sucks :p:p"

ahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahha

yeah I know Karen, so very sorry :(((((((


Duchess Nicole Karen wrote: "Can I say I'm secretly happy it will be slow ! Time difference sucks :p:p"

I know, it really does. But I don't have tons of reading time today, so you'll definitely catch up. And like Blacky said...we'll likely read it a bit slow anyways.


Cathy M. With all of Blacky's enthusiam and love for this book/series, I think I need to read this one too :) Sorry I missed out on this buddy read. Can't wait to read your updates. Hope you enjoy!!


Duchess Nicole Cathy, please join! We only just started!! :D


Duchess Nicole In fact, I'm only on page eight! The link is posted above, so come on!


Blacky *Romance Addict* You can still join, we're just about to start :)


Cathy M. Oh wow, thanks guys! You've gotten me a bit excited for it so why not? I'll load and start this on my lunch break.


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Do join Cathy heres the link -http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...


Duchess Nicole Cathy wrote: "Oh wow, thanks guys! You've gotten me a bit excited for it so why not? I'll load and start this on my lunch break."

Yay, Cathy! I'm stoked :D


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