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Making Evil by Julia  Shaw
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it was ok
bookshelves: germany, canada, 2018-read

As this is a "popular science" book, I didn't expect to be confronted with rigorous academic postulations and intricate arguments that can only be understood by insiders, but this was way too shallow for my taste (and I am not an expert in any of the fields Shaw discusses). I really wanted to like this, but unfortunately, I didn't learn much, and Shaw's impulse to talk about herself and preach to her readers didn't help either - not because her statements are somehow wrong, but because they are often referring to things so obvious (don't be afraid of mentally ill people! Don't perpetuate the suppression of women! Don't discriminate people because of their sexual orientation!) that I'm wondering who the reading audience for this book is. I know that there are people who cling to hateful and cliched ideas in oder to marginalize others, but will they pick up this book and have an epiphany?

The basic problem of the book is probably that the concept of "evil" is so broad and partly subjective (what would you consider as evil, what merely as bad?) that Shaw is busy covering a lot of ground at the expense of depth: She talks about the concept of "evil" in the context of technology, power, the office, sexuality, murder, rape culture, the Nazis, terrorism, paedohpilia, slavery, sadism... and yes, she herself states that this exploration is based on her own interests regarding the concept of "evil". While there are some scientific studies that I had never heard of and that I found very interesting, many cases she refers to are already well-known (how often do we have to read about the Stanford Prison Experiment?).

So all in all, I was a little underwhelmed by this book. And hey, all German speakers out there, if you want to get an impression what this book feels like, you can watch this clip in which Shaw (who is German-Canadian) does a "creepiness test" with late night host Jan Böhmermann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_mzL...
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Reading Progress

October 27, 2018 – Started Reading
October 27, 2018 – Shelved
October 27, 2018 – Shelved as: to-read
October 27, 2018 – Shelved as: germany
October 27, 2018 – Shelved as: canada
October 30, 2018 – Shelved as: 2018-read
October 30, 2018 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Claire (new) - added it

Claire This sounds super interesting


Meike Claire wrote: "This sounds super interesting"

Yes, I thought so too, but now that I'm almost through, the book feels a little disjointed and random: It talks about the concept of "evil" in the context of technology, power, the office, sexuality, murder, rape culture, the Nazis, terrorism, paedohpilia, slavery, sadism... - which makes this a broad exploration of the topic with not enough depth, IMHO. :-(


message 3: by Claire (new) - added it

Claire Interesting- if not thought about the broad nature of the concept...


message 4: by Meike (last edited Oct 28, 2018 02:51AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Meike Claire wrote: "Interesting- if not thought about the broad nature of the concept..."

Mmmhh, maybe that's the problem: If you tackle too broad of a concept, you have a hard time really discussing the interesting details because you feel like you have to cover too much ground...

For all German speakers out there: I just watched the author (who is German-Canadian) do a "creepiness test" with late night host Jan Böhmermann, and the book feels just like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_mzL...


message 5: by Sadie (last edited Oct 30, 2018 08:35AM) (new)

Sadie Hmmm, that sounds rather underwhelming. I saw her on Neo Magazine, the clip you linked to, and only then remembered that I still have her first book somewhere in that pile next to my bedside. Guess I'll stick to that for now.


message 6: by Tristram (new)

Tristram Shandy That really sounds like a disappointing reading-experience. There was a period in my life when I wasted a lot of time reading Nietzsche and in that connection I remember a book that at the time impressed me, viz. Philosophie des verbotenen Wissens. I also found Rüdiger Safranski's Das Böse oder Das Drama der Freiheit a good starting point.


message 7: by Meike (last edited Oct 31, 2018 01:47AM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Meike Lennongirl wrote: "Hmmm, that sounds rather underwhelming. I saw her on Neo Magazine, the clip you linked to, and only then remembered that I still have her first book somewhere in that pile next to my bedside. Guess..."

I have to say that I liked her first book better...this Neo Magazine appearance was a little weird, I had the Impression that Böhmermann was permanently thinking "WTF?" (and let's not kid ourselves, we all knew that he was creepy before they did the test! ;-)).


Meike Tristram wrote: "That really sounds like a disappointing reading-experience. There was a period in my life when I wasted a lot of time reading Nietzsche and in that connection I remember a book that at the time imp..."

Thanks, Tristram, I need to check these out, because the topic itself is certainly super interesting!


message 9: by Jonny (new)

Jonny o’brien Wow, you just saved me reading this book. I was looking for something much more in depth but it appears from your review that this only touches the surface of several different topics rather delving into any one seriously. Thanks for your review. Very well written.


Meike Jonny wrote: "Wow, you just saved me reading this book. I was looking for something much more in depth but it appears from your review that this only touches the surface of several different topics rather delvin..."

Thank you so much, Jonny! The book does refer to some studies, but it's not aiming to give any in-depth analysis - the whole thing has a chatty feel, which I didn't appreciate.


message 11: by Anita (new)

Anita Pomerantz Yikes - - okay, definitely taking this off my list.


Meike Anita wrote: "Yikes - - okay, definitely taking this off my list."

I can't really recommend it, Anita, except you're interested in the author's personal opinions! :-)


message 13: by Michael (new)

Michael Leedom Thank you for taking the time to write this review. I suspect I would be frustrated with the same things you listed, particularly the emphasis on breadth over depth. I also prefer not to read chatty prose. Have you come across a more suitable book on this subject?


Meike Michael wrote: "Thank you for taking the time to write this review. I suspect I would be frustrated with the same things you listed, particularly the emphasis on breadth over depth. I also prefer not to read chatt..."

Thank you, Michael! Unfortunately, I don't know which book I could recommend...I guess you would have to look at some serious books about behavioral psychology or, when considering concrete examples, history books. A publication I can recommend though looks at the problem from the opposite perspective and asks how NOT to be evil: Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do?. Michael Sandel, the author, is a great philosopher!


Dienne Excellent review - my sentiments exactly.


Meike Dienne wrote: "Excellent review - my sentiments exactly."

Thank you so much, Dienne!!


Sarahrgerman Thank you for writing this review—I just finished reading the book and you basically said exactly what I was thinking. Very little new or revelatory information, and a lot preachy.


Meike Sarahrgerman wrote: "Thank you for writing this review—I just finished reading the book and you basically said exactly what I was thinking. Very little new or revelatory information, and a lot preachy."

Danke for your kind words, Sarah! :-) This book really was pretty disappointing...but nevermind, have you already seen that Saša Stanišić has won the German Book Prize? Yaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!!


message 19: by Maya (new)

Maya Nice review!
Speaking of the prison experiment, if you haven't already heard of it, you might be interested in looking into the ongoing "replication crisis" of psychology. here or here f.ex.

Also, if you're still interested in the topic of good and evil, look up Jonathan Haidt's work, who has researched morality (or get the short version in the ted talk).


Meike Maya wrote: "Nice review!
Speaking of the prison experiment, if you haven't already heard of it, you might be interested in looking into the ongoing "replication crisis" of psychology. here or here f.ex. Also..."


Thanks so much, Maya! I've heard about problems re validity, but I'll have to check out your links to get the details - thanks for them!!

Haidt looks super interesting, I think I'll tackle his book once I finally picked up Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do? - I've been wanting to read Sandel forever!


message 21: by Lola (new) - rated it 1 star

Lola Truly wish I read this before buying and reading the book because I completely agree


Meike Lola wrote: "Truly wish I read this before buying and reading the book because I completely agree"

Ahh, this book was such a disappointment, Lola!


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