Meike's Reviews > Making Evil: The Science Behind Humanity’s Dark Side
Making Evil: The Science Behind Humanity’s Dark Side
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As this is a "popular science" book, I didn't expect to be confronted with rigorous academic postulations and intricate arguments that can only be understood by insiders, but this was way too shallow for my taste (and I am not an expert in any of the fields Shaw discusses). I really wanted to like this, but unfortunately, I didn't learn much, and Shaw's impulse to talk about herself and preach to her readers didn't help either - not because her statements are somehow wrong, but because they are often referring to things so obvious (don't be afraid of mentally ill people! Don't perpetuate the suppression of women! Don't discriminate people because of their sexual orientation!) that I'm wondering who the reading audience for this book is. I know that there are people who cling to hateful and cliched ideas in oder to marginalize others, but will they pick up this book and have an epiphany?
The basic problem of the book is probably that the concept of "evil" is so broad and partly subjective (what would you consider as evil, what merely as bad?) that Shaw is busy covering a lot of ground at the expense of depth: She talks about the concept of "evil" in the context of technology, power, the office, sexuality, murder, rape culture, the Nazis, terrorism, paedohpilia, slavery, sadism... and yes, she herself states that this exploration is based on her own interests regarding the concept of "evil". While there are some scientific studies that I had never heard of and that I found very interesting, many cases she refers to are already well-known (how often do we have to read about the Stanford Prison Experiment?).
So all in all, I was a little underwhelmed by this book. And hey, all German speakers out there, if you want to get an impression what this book feels like, you can watch this clip in which Shaw (who is German-Canadian) does a "creepiness test" with late night host Jan Böhmermann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_mzL...
The basic problem of the book is probably that the concept of "evil" is so broad and partly subjective (what would you consider as evil, what merely as bad?) that Shaw is busy covering a lot of ground at the expense of depth: She talks about the concept of "evil" in the context of technology, power, the office, sexuality, murder, rape culture, the Nazis, terrorism, paedohpilia, slavery, sadism... and yes, she herself states that this exploration is based on her own interests regarding the concept of "evil". While there are some scientific studies that I had never heard of and that I found very interesting, many cases she refers to are already well-known (how often do we have to read about the Stanford Prison Experiment?).
So all in all, I was a little underwhelmed by this book. And hey, all German speakers out there, if you want to get an impression what this book feels like, you can watch this clip in which Shaw (who is German-Canadian) does a "creepiness test" with late night host Jan Böhmermann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_mzL...
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Claire wrote: "This sounds super interesting"
Yes, I thought so too, but now that I'm almost through, the book feels a little disjointed and random: It talks about the concept of "evil" in the context of technology, power, the office, sexuality, murder, rape culture, the Nazis, terrorism, paedohpilia, slavery, sadism... - which makes this a broad exploration of the topic with not enough depth, IMHO. :-(
Yes, I thought so too, but now that I'm almost through, the book feels a little disjointed and random: It talks about the concept of "evil" in the context of technology, power, the office, sexuality, murder, rape culture, the Nazis, terrorism, paedohpilia, slavery, sadism... - which makes this a broad exploration of the topic with not enough depth, IMHO. :-(
Claire wrote: "Interesting- if not thought about the broad nature of the concept..."
Mmmhh, maybe that's the problem: If you tackle too broad of a concept, you have a hard time really discussing the interesting details because you feel like you have to cover too much ground...
For all German speakers out there: I just watched the author (who is German-Canadian) do a "creepiness test" with late night host Jan Böhmermann, and the book feels just like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_mzL...
Mmmhh, maybe that's the problem: If you tackle too broad of a concept, you have a hard time really discussing the interesting details because you feel like you have to cover too much ground...
For all German speakers out there: I just watched the author (who is German-Canadian) do a "creepiness test" with late night host Jan Böhmermann, and the book feels just like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_mzL...
Hmmm, that sounds rather underwhelming. I saw her on Neo Magazine, the clip you linked to, and only then remembered that I still have her first book somewhere in that pile next to my bedside. Guess I'll stick to that for now.
That really sounds like a disappointing reading-experience. There was a period in my life when I wasted a lot of time reading Nietzsche and in that connection I remember a book that at the time impressed me, viz. Philosophie des verbotenen Wissens. I also found Rüdiger Safranski's Das Böse oder Das Drama der Freiheit a good starting point.
Lennongirl wrote: "Hmmm, that sounds rather underwhelming. I saw her on Neo Magazine, the clip you linked to, and only then remembered that I still have her first book somewhere in that pile next to my bedside. Guess..."
I have to say that I liked her first book better...this Neo Magazine appearance was a little weird, I had the Impression that Böhmermann was permanently thinking "WTF?" (and let's not kid ourselves, we all knew that he was creepy before they did the test! ;-)).
I have to say that I liked her first book better...this Neo Magazine appearance was a little weird, I had the Impression that Böhmermann was permanently thinking "WTF?" (and let's not kid ourselves, we all knew that he was creepy before they did the test! ;-)).
Tristram wrote: "That really sounds like a disappointing reading-experience. There was a period in my life when I wasted a lot of time reading Nietzsche and in that connection I remember a book that at the time imp..."
Thanks, Tristram, I need to check these out, because the topic itself is certainly super interesting!
Thanks, Tristram, I need to check these out, because the topic itself is certainly super interesting!
Wow, you just saved me reading this book. I was looking for something much more in depth but it appears from your review that this only touches the surface of several different topics rather delving into any one seriously. Thanks for your review. Very well written.
Jonny wrote: "Wow, you just saved me reading this book. I was looking for something much more in depth but it appears from your review that this only touches the surface of several different topics rather delvin..."
Thank you so much, Jonny! The book does refer to some studies, but it's not aiming to give any in-depth analysis - the whole thing has a chatty feel, which I didn't appreciate.
Thank you so much, Jonny! The book does refer to some studies, but it's not aiming to give any in-depth analysis - the whole thing has a chatty feel, which I didn't appreciate.
Anita wrote: "Yikes - - okay, definitely taking this off my list."
I can't really recommend it, Anita, except you're interested in the author's personal opinions! :-)
I can't really recommend it, Anita, except you're interested in the author's personal opinions! :-)
Thank you for taking the time to write this review. I suspect I would be frustrated with the same things you listed, particularly the emphasis on breadth over depth. I also prefer not to read chatty prose. Have you come across a more suitable book on this subject?
Michael wrote: "Thank you for taking the time to write this review. I suspect I would be frustrated with the same things you listed, particularly the emphasis on breadth over depth. I also prefer not to read chatt..."
Thank you, Michael! Unfortunately, I don't know which book I could recommend...I guess you would have to look at some serious books about behavioral psychology or, when considering concrete examples, history books. A publication I can recommend though looks at the problem from the opposite perspective and asks how NOT to be evil: Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do?. Michael Sandel, the author, is a great philosopher!
Thank you, Michael! Unfortunately, I don't know which book I could recommend...I guess you would have to look at some serious books about behavioral psychology or, when considering concrete examples, history books. A publication I can recommend though looks at the problem from the opposite perspective and asks how NOT to be evil: Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do?. Michael Sandel, the author, is a great philosopher!
Thank you for writing this review—I just finished reading the book and you basically said exactly what I was thinking. Very little new or revelatory information, and a lot preachy.
Sarahrgerman wrote: "Thank you for writing this review—I just finished reading the book and you basically said exactly what I was thinking. Very little new or revelatory information, and a lot preachy."
Danke for your kind words, Sarah! :-) This book really was pretty disappointing...but nevermind, have you already seen that Saša Stanišić has won the German Book Prize? Yaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!!
Danke for your kind words, Sarah! :-) This book really was pretty disappointing...but nevermind, have you already seen that Saša Stanišić has won the German Book Prize? Yaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!!
Nice review!
Speaking of the prison experiment, if you haven't already heard of it, you might be interested in looking into the ongoing "replication crisis" of psychology. here or here f.ex.
Also, if you're still interested in the topic of good and evil, look up Jonathan Haidt's work, who has researched morality (or get the short version in the ted talk).
Speaking of the prison experiment, if you haven't already heard of it, you might be interested in looking into the ongoing "replication crisis" of psychology. here or here f.ex.
Also, if you're still interested in the topic of good and evil, look up Jonathan Haidt's work, who has researched morality (or get the short version in the ted talk).
Maya wrote: "Nice review!
Speaking of the prison experiment, if you haven't already heard of it, you might be interested in looking into the ongoing "replication crisis" of psychology. here or here f.ex. Also..."
Thanks so much, Maya! I've heard about problems re validity, but I'll have to check out your links to get the details - thanks for them!!
Haidt looks super interesting, I think I'll tackle his book once I finally picked up Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do? - I've been wanting to read Sandel forever!
Speaking of the prison experiment, if you haven't already heard of it, you might be interested in looking into the ongoing "replication crisis" of psychology. here or here f.ex. Also..."
Thanks so much, Maya! I've heard about problems re validity, but I'll have to check out your links to get the details - thanks for them!!
Haidt looks super interesting, I think I'll tackle his book once I finally picked up Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do? - I've been wanting to read Sandel forever!