Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bincheng Mao (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 03:20, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bincheng Mao

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Fails WP:NBASIC, there is passing coverage of Mao but nothing about him directly. He is often tied to his nonprofit and there is coverage of that nonprofit but there isn't much about him other than he shows up to things or gets a passing mention in articles. Sources include being in a Top 100 list from Forbes but that doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV. He is also known for being awarded money from the Clinton Foundation for his nonprofit but all mentions of it are passing or are just a list of award winners. Article claims Mao is a contributor for the Chicago Tribune and the Orlando Sentinel but he wrote commentaries so would not pass WP:JOURNALIST. Nonprofit also fails Wikipedia:NCHARITY, it is there but there isn't much coverage attached to it outside of one or two minor events and being listed on all of Maos profiles.

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
FOX 5	Local mainstream news	Local news	~ Article is not about Mao but does feature him	~ Partial
City Limits/ Sing Tao Daily	? Reprint of an article from the Sing Tao Daily about NYU student activists during COVID	? Unable to assess	? Unable to assess	? Unknown
World Economic Forum	Appears to be independent of outside influence	~ For most material yes but this is just a profile not an interview	Short description of Mao	✘ No
Chicago Tribune	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Partial
Chicago Tribune	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Partial
Chicago Tribune	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Partial
Forbes China	WP:FORBES but this is Forbes China	WP:FORBES	Just a list of 100 Outstanding Chinese	✘ No
Forbes China	WP:FORBES but this is Forbes China	WP:FORBES but this is Forbes China	Just a list of 30 under 30	✘ No
Clinton Foundation	Foundation has donors but work appears to be independent	~ Coverage is just a list from the foundation	Lists Mao as a winner of COVID Student Action Fund money	✘ No
Asia Society	Society looks independent after reading a few articles and checking their website out	~ Looks more like a press release than anything. No author or contact infomation	Only mention of Mao is in a caption of a photo	✘ No
American Public Health Association	APHA is a leader in the public health field	~ Annoucnment of a webinar but not a recording or article talking about the webinar	Mao is listed as a participant but is not the main focus of the webinar	✘ No
Voice of America	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_353#VOA_(Voice_of_America)	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_353#VOA_(Voice_of_America)	Mao is listed as a participant for the same webinar and includes a photo of him from the webinar	✘ No
Chicago Tribune	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Partial
Orlando Sentinel	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Article is commentary authored by Mao	~ Partial
Sing Tao	Sing Tao appears to be independent	~ Article covers the meeting and appears to cite events that took place. I wasn't able to assess this for other articles so I had to go with just this article.	Article is about Mao meeting Rice in a Zoom meeting	~ Partial
Columbia	~ Article is about Michael Sparer and Chelsea Clinton being interviewed about COVID. Mao was the moderator	Article includes link to the interview	Mao is mentioned as moderator and for winning a grant from the Clinton Foundation	✘ No
Club of Madrid	Nonprofit org focused on democracy	? Link is to a podcast that I didn't feel like sitting though	~ Interview with Mao and Kim Campbell former prime minster of Canada about youth engagement The focus is on Campbell and not Mao at least in what I could find	? Unknown
Forbes China	WP:FORBES but this is Forbes China	WP:FORBES but this is Forbes China	Just a list of 100 Outstanding Chinese	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 02:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 02:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Article was declined in AfC, has been deleted once here at AfD, and before this AfD this article was sent to speedy delete but we contested. Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 03:18, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Journalism, and China. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 07:28, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Don't see how it meets WP:GNG/WP:NBIO, perhaps WP:TOOSOON. -Kj cheetham (talk) 17:36, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep The subject clearly meets the notability guidelines as there is significant coverage by major news outlets in multiple countries. There is the profile done by Fox New York here, and multiple news reports by Sing Tao Daily, one of the largest newspapers in Hong Kong. These articles, such as link and link cover in detail his interviews with Dr. Condoleezza Rice and former Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay, as well as his involvement in large-scale refugee assistance efforts for Ukrainians. The Forbes awards are additional information on the page, not the whole basis of the individual's notability. Bobhowards (talk) 09:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)17:36, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I have also noticed the creator of the article (Bobhowards) had a draft declined for also having many sources written by the subject himself or being related with his organizations he is active in. The next day, Bobhoward created an article on the subject directly in main space by translating the article from Chinese (which again included several articles written by Mao) therefore avoiding a AfC review this time. The article has been deleted before as well. The interview on Condoleezza Rice gives a little insight on Mao's charity work and aims but much more insight on the life of Condoleezza Rice, the next interview (BTW, not accessible over the link) then I didn't google translate anymore. As to me the creation by the same editor the very next day after the draft was declined is disruptive to the Wikipedia process and the name should probably be SALTed as Dr vulpes suggested on the talk page.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 11:20, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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