Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azamat Balakov

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The result was speedy deletion (G3). -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Azamat Balakov (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

although the article asserts notability the subject does not appear to exist through a basic googlesearch on his name making me believe this may in fact be a hoax article. Several other similar articles have been created as can be verified by looking at the conversation on my talkpage between myself and User:Ironholds Jasynnash2 (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2008 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:[reply]

Victor Stanislavsky‎ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Jasynnash2 (talk) 14:47, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong keep Perhaps try google.com.ua or google.ru? Given our poor coverage of the Ukraine and Russia and the fact that we are trying to create the encyclopedia of everything not of everything English speaking this stretches my good faith assumptions to the limit, really it looks like a ckleary case of speedy keep. Thanks, SqueakBox 14:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)Delete per Mikkalai below, whose input I had requested. Thanks, SqueakBox 16:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've just done exactly as you ask. Unfortunately, I get pretty much the exact same hits as my previous search. 2 hits to this wiki, one to perscription drug thing, one to mind42.com. Please let me know if you want me to check something else. Jasynnash2 (talk) 14:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Google.ru search. Most are mirrors of Wikipedia's references to this particular article. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong keep and a WP:TROUT to the nom for nominating it after two of us explained at great length why the presumption of notability should apply here. — iridescent 14:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Presumption of notability is only valid when it is proven. I may write an article about my dog alleging it bite both George Bushes three times. Reliable sources is the only way to distinguish a fact from a hoax. The author of all these boxer article is new and not trusted yet. He is notified in his talk page. It may well be a promotion campaign of some nonnotable gym, not to say a test of wikipedia. `'Míkka>t 15:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment what you said was the article asserts notability because it says "professional boxer". I've brought it here after trying to verify said assertion and failing. Please also look at Gwilym Sims-Williams which is currently prodded by a different user and Joe Clark (boxer) both of which have been recently deleted. Jasynnash2 (talk) 15:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think that was me that said that, but assertion of notability only protects an article from speedy deletion. Further investigation could reveal a {{G3}} hoax speedy criterion; in this case it may be just promotion of real but WP:NN people. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete both as nonverifiable. The articles do not provide a single reference despite being tagged as unreferenced for five days. Google search gives zero hits both in English and Russian spellings. wikipedia:Verifiability trumps all other policies. The article may be recreated when reliable sources appear. `'Míkka>t 15:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy delete both. The articles were created by a known hoaxer why tested wikipedia smarts with Banana United, Banana United Football Club hoaxes, not to say about Tomato Town and Fruit Bowl Stadium. From a deleted article: "Banana United is a football club that was founded in 2006. We play our home games in the Fruit Bowl Stadium and it holds up to 100,000 fruits and vegetables. " `'Míkka>t 15:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as likely hoax. The article states that he defeated Paul Williams, but the boxrec.com entry for Williams only shows a single defeat to Carlos Quintana and makes no mention of any name similar to "Azamat Balakov". I also looked up the boxrec results for Matt Skelton and Serguei Lyakhovich, two other real-life boxers that the fictional Balakov is claimed to have defeated, with similar negative results. Please don't just rely on Google for notability tests! — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 15:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Azamat Balakov both: lacks any WP:V. Need more time to reseach Victor Stanislavsky, as his Google.ru search is a bit more interesting... so far. adding "boxing" to the search comes up with only Wikipedia references, and one that includes the word "box". :P - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 16:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete both as likely hoaxes. Upon attempting verification, no reliable sources come up in google or google.ru. In fact, when I tried several likely spellings in Russian for Balakov on google.ru, nothing at all came up:[1][2][3]. Nsk92 (talk) 16:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• G3 both as hoaxes by known hoaxster. So tagged. And a trout to User:Iridescent for jumping in with a keep without realizing that these were hoaxes. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 18:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.