Left guide is currently experiencing mental health issues, which may affect their Wikipedia editing in various ways. They may have difficulty with:
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From sweet to savory, everyone loves pie! I saw you are taking a break from WP for a while and hope your break is restorative, regenerative and recreational. Know that you are appreciated around here! Take all the time you need, and have a slice of pie...or two...or three...! Netherzone (talk) 01:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. If you need to run a page size on an old version of a page, e.g. LeBron James, Prosesize works by just clicking on the version you want in page history, then running the gadget. You don't need to actually revert the page and affect readers for that small window. Regards. —Bagumba (talk) 08:33, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba: Ok thanks for that tip, always good to receive advice from you. I accessed that version by going to the talk page "article milestones" template, because scrolling through the article history would've taken an eternity to get to 2013. Would Prosesize still work for finding the page size in this manner? Left guide (talk) 08:47, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The URL to the journal that you added to Yao Ming looks like it could be copyrighted material. We generally shouldn't link to them from WP (WP:COPYVIOEL), though it's OK to list the other source info. Am I missing something? —Bagumba (talk) 09:00, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable. No problem. The PDF could be depriving someone of their revenue. The url doesn't make it clear that it's being published with permission. —Bagumba (talk) 09:04, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I click on "Full article", it's asking me for payment. But I could be blind. Otherwise, someone paying for this doesn't give them permission to redistribute it. And sure, this kind of "free" material is everywhere on the internet, but WP just shouldn't link to it. Again, it's fine to cite it, but the link should not go to copyvio material. A link to the pay site would be fine though. Hope that makes sense. —Bagumba (talk) 09:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba: It does make sense. It's a good-faith mistake on my part, and I'll remove the questionable link. Thanks for explaining this to me in a dignified manner. Left guide (talk) 09:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you used one of those citation templates, it'd put that padlock symbol if you specified |url-access=subscription. But that's just cosmetic. —Bagumba (talk) 09:29, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba: I clicked one of those "cite this article" buttons on the journal site, which I find simpler than WP citation templates, and there doesn't seem to be a need for uniformity as the only entry for a new further reading section. By the way, do you know of any other NBA players who are the main subject of peer-reviewed academic journal articles? I find it rather interesting and unusual for Yao, and I even encountered another one about him I plan to add soon. Left guide (talk) 09:41, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba: Wow that's very interesting. I think there's enough sourcing between what you and I have found to spruce up content about his legacy and preserve the article's FA status. Left guide (talk) 09:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not the type to document every triple-double, but I do create bios on players that won't ever have dedicated books, let alone appearing in peer-reviewed journals. For better or for worse, sports bios' quality aren't that much different from politicians. —Bagumba (talk) 10:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, I added a few sources to the lede to see where you consider these sources to GNG of the article. Throughout my search a bunch of sources talked of a rivalry from the 80s, but were not significant to prove anything. Thus these three are probably the greatest I found. [1]Conyo14 (talk) 02:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Conyo14: Seen, thanks for your work on that page. I have more thoughts and analysis on this, but about to eat with family and then wash dishes, so will get to that shortly later. Left guide (talk) 03:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Conyo14: The 1987 Washington Post article seems like a good one that meets all of the GNG criteria. Boston Herald I am unable to access, but it's worth noting that it shows up in yellow on the source highlighter tool, so somewhere somehow the community deemed it marginally reliable or no consensus as a publisher. Bleacher Report is generally unreliable as indicated at WP:RSNBA#Generally unreliable based on its three linked RSN discussions. You might be interested in User:Left guide/sandbox5 where over the past few days I've been documenting an analysis of the article's pre-existing references and links, in addition to a couple of books I found, and also WP:RSN#Sports Publishing/Skyhorse and Triumph Books where I asked the community about the reliability of said books. In summary, from my perspective your sources seem to have elevated the article topic from a weak delete to a borderline case, possibly a weak keep. If I may ask, are you solely focused on this one rivalry? Or would you be interested in taking on the notability of {{NBA rivalries}} on a larger scale? If the latter, there are about a dozen NBA rivalry articles with unclear notability that could benefit from more research. Incidentally, User talk:Bagumba#Notability of NBA rivalries right above your post there has some discussion of this. Courtesy ping @Bagumba:. Left guide (talk) 07:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
