The IOC recognizes contract bridge as a sport. But does that apply only to duplicate bridge or also to rubber bridge with randomly dealt cards? --KnightMove (talk) 09:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a sport according to the European Court of Justice, whether duplicate or just plain contract.[1] (It's no more a sport than poker or gin rummy IMO, regardless of what the IOC says.) Clarityfiend (talk)

People argue about whether chess etc. should be admitted to the Olympic Games, some saying No because it isn't a sport, merely a game. Yet the Olympic Games are called just that, and not Olympic Sports. However, every event they stage is a sport, not a game. Go figure. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:37, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some countries do recognize poker and duplicate bridge as sports. I'm not very familiar with bridge, so I'm not sure if that includes rubber bridge. I'm thinking probably not, but logically a player (a team) who has an advantage in duplicate bridge will ceteris paribus have an advantage in rubber bridge, just often take much longer to realize it because the luck of starting hands isn't removed. 31.217.0.88 (talk) 22:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's quite right. And as a player of duplicate bridge I'd like to note that it certainly does not eliminate all elements of luck. You can get the same good result because you made a clever play or because your opponents made a stupid one; or because you tried a play that would only work if your left-hand opponent had exactly six cards in hearts, but this was true; or because your opponents' methods work better for certain types of deals but none of those deals can came up in the match.

On the subject, I can't resist posting this dialogue, which I transcribed years ago from the TV sitcom Sports Night. The show was set at a TV sports channel, and in this episode, the staff realized that, by a coincidence of scheduling, there was next to nothing going on that day in any sport that their viewers might be interested in, and so they had next to nothing to report on. So they had a meeting...

Natalie: Here's something.

Dana: What?

Natalie: East bid 2 clubs, South bid 4 diamonds, and North came back with 5 notrump.

Dana: Bridge?

Natalie: Yeah.

Dana: [pause] Is there footage? [Natalie nods]

Casey: We're going to cover bridge?

Dan: [It]'s the sport of kings.

Dana: No, once again, it's not the sport of kings. Horse racing is the sport of kings.

Jeremy [aside]: Give me the dumplings.

Dan: What's bridge the sport of?

Dana: Bridge isn't a sport.

Dan: Sure it's a sport.

Dana: Well, I think at the very least people have to be moving.

Count me with Dana. --174.95.160.48 (talk) 03:58, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"...people have to be moving" - that reminds me of commentators on football in Australia (rugby league, rugby union, soccer, Australian Rules), who regularly describe games or teams as "very physical". As if it's possible to play a ball game in any other way. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 08:31, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is more how one defines the term sport. The European Court of Justice did not rule on the general meaning of the term, but solely^[2] on how the term should be interpreted specifically in the context of article 132(1)(m) of the EU VAT Directive 2006/112/EC, which states: "Member States shall exempt the following transactions: [...] (m) the supply of certain services closely linked to sport or physical education by nonprofit-making organisations to persons taking part in sport or physical education". When ruling on the interpretation of the text of a law, courts generally also consider what the legislators meant, which obviously includes the context in which a term is used, but may also include the deliberations of the legislative bodies as laid down in the minutes. Clearly, more in general, people also use the term sport to refer to a competitive skill-based activity that does not involve significant physical exertion. When people have different points of view on the issue whether chess is a sport,^[3][4] it does not tell us how they view the game of chess, but merely how broadly or narrowly they interpret the term sport.  --Lambiam 09:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As I recall, the World Chess Championship 1972 was treated like a sport. --←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 11:10, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We hear phrases like "he is in good form" or "he is out of form" in sports such as cricket, football or tennis. I could not find an article or even a section on this concept of form. In the context of sport we have form (exercise) which is different. The form I'm looking for is psychological, or related to the confidence level of the player. Can someone point me to content about it. Jay (talk) 11:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt if there is any here. It's just an expression, and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The phrase "in good form" shows up in many articles, but that's about it. It's also applied to singers and others (e.g. Rodgers and Hammerstein for their work in The Sound of Music). Clarityfiend (talk) 11:28, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Definition 2.7 of "form" at Wiktionary makes this meaning clear. Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:40, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I've always understood it to be referring to the Horse Racing version (Form (horse racing) - the idea that recent results can indicate future performance. Nanonic (talk) 15:12, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sense of fitness to perform also exists in French for the noun forme^[5][6][7] and the German noun Form,^[8][9][10] but as far as I know (and could find), these are not used for a record of a horse's performance. The collocation in optima forma can be found in 16th-century Latin texts^[11][12][13] and even used in official Dutch documents,^[14] in which there is clearly no connection to horse racing.  --Lambiam 10:25, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Clarityfiend, Shantavira, Nanonic, Lambiam. I would have expected it to be more than an expression, and something sport psychologists would have indulged in, but I could not find a mention there as well. Jay (talk) 11:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all,

I often see pictures of actors in articles about movies and the pictures are taken years after the movie. I think it doesn't really make sense because the information people should get in an article is how actors actually looked in the movie. For example, in the article about Titanic which was released in 1997, the picture of DiCaprio is from 2014 and the picture of Winslet is from 2011 (Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(1997_film)#Cast). I've seen the same thing in many other articles and it always kind of bugs me. Should it be changed? Ericdec85 (talk) 05:58, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The problem presumably relates to finding and uploading an appropriate non-copyrighted photo, or a fair-use rationale for using a non-free image. For example, the c:Category:Leonardo DiCaprio in 1997 has no images. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 06:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of those weird things about Wikipedia: that original research is forbidden, but the only photos allowed are either certified to be free or are taken by editors... which constitutes "original research", in that we have to take the editor's word that the subject is who it is claimed to be. --←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If, and only if, you have access to pictures which are compatible with Wikipedia's reuse license. See WP:IUP for more details. The reason why more pictures aren't available is that Wikipedia only allows the use of images which are either a) in the public domain (which means there is no valid copyright on them) or b) which are explicitly licensed as CC-BY-SA. It is the responsibility of the uploader to prove such images are correctly licensed, if they did not take the picture themselves, and as such, essentially all images you find on the internet are not appropriate for Wikipedia use. --Jayron32 11:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking for the name (and hopefully online streaming location) of a classic cartoon from the Golden age of American animation with the following premise:

A viscous→mean guard dog is guarding a construction site. Undaunted, an adorable little kitten walks up to the snarling beast; purring, the kitten rubs against the dog with a little "mieu". Instantly smitten, the dog spends the rest of the cartoon rescuing the kitten from various perils and misadventures on the construction site. Thanks in advance (I'm going to bed and wont respond for awhile). --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 06:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's more than one cartoon with a similar theme. See Marc Antony and Pussyfoot. And I assume you meant "vicious", as the dog does not appear to be fluid. :) --←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're right; I stand→sit corrected. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 19:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That appears to be "Cat Feud", directed by the great Chuck Jones. Youtube has an excerpt. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:11, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I didn't realize that Marc Antony and Pussyfoot were recurring characters. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 15:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi everybody! Sorry for the unhelpful title. I'd like to watch the movies:

• " Good Mourning", starring Machine Gun Kelly, Megan Fox, Becky G etc. Actually, I need to find subtitles and I don't know where, the movie itself I have it, just need greek subtitles if possible.
• " Big Bang Made the Movie", starring boy band Big Bang. I need both movie and subtitles, I doubt about greek ones but english would be really helpful.
• "The Act III: Moment of Truth the End", starring G-Dragon. Again, I need as above, just because I do not want to pay YouTube premium.

Thanks - fenia🖤^tellmehi 10:38, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just Watch is a service that allows users to find where specific movies are being streamed from. Unfortunately, I did not find any of your three movies on there. Good Mourning is a brand new movie and apparently not available streaming anywhere yet. I assume it's in theatres since it was just released last week. The site did not seem to recognize the other two titles. So, you may be out of luck, but perhaps there's a Korean-centered service that might be better for those two? In any case, most streaming services require some kind of payment or subscription, so YouTube premium might be your best bet anyway. Not that you specifically requested this, but just to be clear: we're not going to find pirated versions of that material for you. 64.235.97.146 (talk) 13:54, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for presuming on your assistance once again. While checking whether we had an article on the Australian operetta singer Paul Plunkett (we don't), I found in Paul Plunkett (disambiguation) the name Anna Freeman (born 1954), Australian trumpeter. There's no shortage of references to the Australian classical trumpeter Paul Plunkett, who is probably the Paul Francis Plunkett born April 7 1954. From the authorship of Beyond Brass Basics and the early history of the Freeman article, it would appear these are the same person, but there is now no mention of such in the article. Is this a BLP issue ? Doug butler (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Evidently Paul Plunket and Anna Freeman are the same person (see this Wikipedia snapshot from 3/22/2016). The article should include "Born Paul Plunket, [date]", but unlike the Wendy Carlos article where transgederism is well documented, assuming such might indeed violate BLP without proper sourcing. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 17:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article was started on 7 June 2007. The name "Anna Freeman" first appeared in the article on 6 August 2017. The article was renamed "Anna Freeman" on 28 August 2018. The last mention of the name "Paul Plunkett" was removed from the main text one month later, in this edit. The name "Plunkett" does not appear anywhere on her website. (If, as seems likely from the notices in The Herald, she was born "at Mercy Hospital", then the actual place of birth would not be Drouin but presumably Melbourne, at Mercy Private Hospital in East Melbourne).  --Lambiam 09:54, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some distance from Melbourne, but Plunkett was living at Drouin in 1976 when he was awarded a Churchill Fellowship. Doug butler (talk) 14:15, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is hard to reconcile "Paul Francis Plunkett" with "Paul R. C. Plunkett", so perhaps two namesakes were both born in 1954, separated by a mere 100 km.  --Lambiam 21:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Compare those odds with the likelihood of someone tweaking their middle names :) Doug butler (talk) 22:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Paul Plunkett" is not an extraordinarily uncommon name, with eleven such names on the Australian electoral rolls in the period 1930–1980,^[15] which suggest that "R. C." stands for "Robert Charles". I have no statistics on the incidence of people tweaking their middle names in various cultures, but I suspect it is a rather rare thing to do. I can see why someone might want to change their name from "Joseph Stalin Jones" to "Joseph Stanley Jones", but have more trouble imagining a reason for a desire to change "Paul Francis Plunkett" into "Paul Robert Charles Plunkett".  --Lambiam 07:59, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The surname "Plunkett" is not as rare as I thought, having since done a search of Australian Archives. I was focused on the year 1954 as found by the original editor, and my argument relied on that YOB, but ain't necessarily so. Doug butler (talk) 08:14, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2603, actually MOS:GENDERID requires more than "well documented". It requires that the person is notable under the prior name, a subtle but important distinction. Until someone establishes this, I've removed any mention of the other name in our articles. Technically MOS:GENDERID applies to this discussion as well but I'll leave it be. Nil Einne (talk) 06:12, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's a kind of vocal modification which appears in some funk songs of the 1970s, for instance Ohio by the Ohio Players and Aqua Boogie by Parliament. It makes the voice sound robotic and weird. What technology was used to get this effect? Lantzy : Lantzy 17:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably talking about a vocoder, though there are other possibilities. A similar effect is produced in a charmingly simple analog way by a talkbox. Modern music inexplicably prefers autotune. Parliament often make use of a friction drum called a cuíca, which is usually compared to the sound of a dog or a monkey.

Actually after listening to the songs I wonder if this is ring modulation.  Card Zero  (talk) 17:24, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the comments below this video [16]. A user who goes by the name "wonderglory" asked about the two little girls. She got one response from someone named Shalyn Johnson. When "wonderglory" looked at another response, it was from someone named "Jack". "Jack" gave a reference to an interview Eddie Murphy gave on The Drew Barrymore Show. But who was the little girl on Shalyn Johnson's right?2603:7000:8100:F444:DCDD:391A:5DB4:50F1 (talk) 23:46, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Our article Love Reaction says it was released in 1983, but not exactly when. Nor does it say when it was recorded. Do we know? Thanks, DuncanHill (talk) 01:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

From Discogs.com we can establish that Love Reaction was cut in the 32nd week of 1983, so what's that, the end of August? (No, somewhere in the first 14 days of August, in fact.) If you hover over where it says "Lacquer Cut By – AK" you get information about the cutting engineer and the code used, apparently this guy had a habit of using a code with "A" in it on one side of the record and the same code only with "K" in it on the other, and those two codes in this case are "32A1" and "32K1" where 32 is the week of the year. Oh, but is this only the Dutch version? I'm not sure how this stuff works.  Card Zero  (talk) 02:16, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the organization formerly known as Speech and Speech Communication Association which in the mid 1970s had its headquarters in the Statler Hilton Hotel in New York City? I am asking because I was employed then and there which helped me finish my doctoral dissertation by providing income. If I have the correct organization, I see a name change. I Did indexing in your office via the ERIC program. I am now 78 years old and would like to hear some organization history. The departure of the SCA and relocation out of New York and my unique job title there allowed me full unemployment insurance and payment to the lady to type my dissertation. Such things were done in the ancient ages. I really enjoyed my time with the national organizational staff. hs0zcw@gmail.com savvy researchers can use the first six letters of that statement and QRZ.com on the Internet to discover my identity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2403:6200:8967:7ECE:29E6:560E:101F:16ED (talk) 13:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A BRIEF HISTORY OF NCA or National Communication Association mentions the Speech Communication Association (which operated between 1970 and 1996) among its predecessors. Alansplodge (talk) 09:43, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An old movie I once saw as a child. Very old (I think black and white, possibly even silent). It was about pirates, but the only thing that I really remember was a pirate captain (sometime ally of the hero) who, whenever he was at risk of falling asleep but needed to stay awake, would insert a dagger, point up, into his bandolier, such that if his head sagged he would prick himself under the chin with the point. Iapetus (talk) 20:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a Reddit account, have you also tried asking at /r/TipOfMyTongue? They might also be able to help out there. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:34, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from Nico Rosberg, who are examples of athletes and sportspeople who retired either immediately or shortly after winning their first championship or significant victory? By significant victory, I imagine things like a Grand Slam in tennis (or really, any tournament win for that matter), a gold medal finish at an event, a tournament win, etc. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:08, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marion Bartoli won Wimbledon, retired 40 days later. Tarik Glenn won the Super Bowl and immediately retired. Nanonic (talk) 08:28, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]