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We will reply to you as soon as possible. --Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 13:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

What's the point of questions and feedback if the change is going to happen anyway? bdijkstra (talk) 21:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
+1 Punctilla (talk) 12:35, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why

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Is there a particular reason this move is taking place?fr33kman 19:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Same question : is it useful ? for all and every contributor ? For smartphone users like me, it’s an exclusion…Punctilla (talk) 12:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wiktionary

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Will there be any change for Wiktionary? As far as I understand we do not have an "In Other Projects" section. FocalPoint (talk) 19:11, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Probably depends on the namespace, pages like wikt:en:Help:Contents have a section "In other projects". Johannnes89 (talk) 19:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
As far as I can see in sv.wiktionary, the link is gone already today (September 28). I use the "Vector legacy 2010" skin (old look) and look at wikt:sv:mila and there is no wikidata link. It is missing also from the "Vector 2022" skin. --LA2 (talk) 22:36, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
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What happens if the Wikidata item has a wikidatawiki sitelink? Like d:Q4582194. Bean49 (talk) 19:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I had the same question. en:WP:VPT currently has a "Wikidata item" link (d:Q4582194) in the "General" section and a "Wikidata" link (d:Wikidata:Report a technical problem) in the "In other projects" section. Per phab:T372566 it seems like both links will be shown which seems ok to me. Johannnes89 (talk) 19:48, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

It feels like it's a bit too late to worry about discoverability

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Especially considering that most PC visitors, and probably most editors, are using the new Vector skin. In this new design, inter-project links are the lowest priority for the WMF, as they're essentially buried under the 'Tools' section, requiring even a few scrolls to come into view. And don't even get me started on mobile users. It's nearly impossible for a mobile user to ever stumble upon an inter-project link. Ignacio Rodríguez (talk) 19:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I agree with this observation--Ciaurlec (talk) 20:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Me too ! Big problem for me !!! Punctilla (talk) 12:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, Vector 2022 basically made the whole block of these links meaningless. Still, I welcome this change given that Russian Wikipedia already implemented it via a gadget which we can now turn off. stjn[ru] 21:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hard agree. The Wikidata link should be central and it is frankly ridiculous that frivolities like 'Random article' get a higher priority. Karmakolle (talk) 12:30, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Ignacio Rodríguez: There are attempts to improve this situation at phab:T334792, sadly not much progress were made lately. The idea clearly doesn't get enough attention. —— Eric LiuTalk 18:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Problem on svWP?

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On the Swedish Wikipedia, the In other languages subsection is placed in the main menu on the left. Is this also going to be moved to the tools menu on the right? As on other language versions. See sv:Astrid Lindgren, de:Astrid Lindgren, fr:Astrid Lindgren, en:Astrid Lindgren for example. Sabelöga (talk) 22:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Big problem for me !!! (frWP)

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I use mainly my smartphone to contribute, and the present configuration is convenient for me. I have absolutely no idea where I will find the link if you move it : no visible access to « Dans les autres projets » on my smartphone ! I don’t understand why this change is planned and I don’t appreciate it at all : it means smartphone users won’t be able to remove errors rather fréquent in descriptions (translation error, vandalisme…). Thanks for attention. Punctilla (talk) 12:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

According to Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects/Projects/Move Wikidata item link#I view Wikimedia sites on mobile, will this affect me? mobile users shouldn't be affected. Johannnes89 (talk) 19:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply