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So... lemme understand. Having more options, more ways to express your character, is bad because... you personally don't understand some of the options? Cool, pick smth else then? Leave the other stuff for people who do understand and want to use it?

This is the easiest problem in the world to fix my guy, how fragile is your ego that you can't handle even just seeing some funky pronouns and quit so hard you left a salty comment about it.

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How does eh/ehq express character?

Don't get angry immediately, it's genuine question. I don't understand all this weird pronouns stuff that I see on the English internet, especially on Tumblr. I don't have it in my native language.

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a lot of people use pronouns as an extension of their identity, while some people care about it less; from my perspective, its mostly just about being able to present yourself in a way that makes you happy and comfortable :)

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You could argue that this is misguided though, since pronouns are really one of the least personal and most vague things you could use to describe someone. It seems odd for some people to use that of all things to try to express their whole identity. Unless I'm misunderstanding something ofc.

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You're not! The way you're seeing it is perfectly fine, some people care about it more than others and neither are really wrong- for example, i use it/its pronouns because that's just what makes me feel happiest but i don't mind if people call me by something else while done people would care a lot more.  My pronouns are more like an aspect of me vs a representation of my whole identity

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(I apologize for the wall of text ;-;)

Pronouns are an essential function of just about any language. A pronoun is basically just a noun referring to a person (bit more complicated but yeah thats the gist). He, she, they, we, it, etc are all pronouns. There may be languages out there with limited pronouns, or who express things in a different way, but most languages I am aware of has them in some form. They are not always gendered however.

In english, several pronouns imply gender. For example "she" implies a female gender to the person being referred to. This creates a problem, as transgender and gender nonconforming individuals are uncomfortable when they aren't seen as the gender they identify as. Thus the concept of changing one's pronouns, and introducing oneself with their pronouns. This is merely a tool by which to ensure that the language we use to identify each other does not accidentally hurt anyone. Its basically the same level of respect as not calling someone a nasty nickname.

This works great, for some people. He/she/they are all very useful pronouns and can be applied to a wide variety of identities and genders, but some people don't really feel like their identity fits within any of those boxes, and they want a new box. Or heck, want to be outside any box. Thus we come to the concept of neo-pronouns. Essentially newly invented pronouns used to describe people who don't feel represented by the "standard set". A lot of people who don't fit in the binary of he/she use "they" instead but that doesn't feel right for everyone. Some people feel more comfortable with a unique singular pronoun instead.

And, finally (apologies for the rather long wall of text, I just wanted to be thorough), we come to eh/ehq. Eh/ehq are examples of neo-pronouns. They're not ones I am familiar with personally, but in essence they express something outside the gender binary. Choosing these pronouns can express character in a lot of ways, especially for an immortal born-from-the-fabric-of-the-universe god like the MC is in Uroboros. It can express an alienation from conventional gender norms, a desire to distance oneself from those norms, a simple sentiment of not caring all that much about gender and preferring to be unique in one's expression, or all of the above, or none of the above. 

Eh/ehq, in essence, expresses that the person using them is not male or female, does not wish to present as such, and does not wish to be perceived as such. The reasons for this can be numerous but that is the essence of it.


And bringing back around to the topic of languages. There are languages out there that don't have gendered pronouns, or have less of an emphasis on gendered pronouns. It sounds like you likely speak one of these languages. I imagine it might sound rather silly for english speakers to get all worked up about them lol, but it is just a matter of expressing one's identity. Its also worth noting that not all pronouns refer to people. "This, That, and Those" are all pronouns as well. Again, most languages have pronouns, but only some languages have gendered pronouns and as such using the proper gendered pronouns may be more/less important depending on your language.

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You're talking about ego when you're the triggered one. Why am I picking pronouns for characters with nothing but their name to go off? On top of that I don't know what half the words mean. On top of that if they're gods they could all be neutral. I know gender politics are your whole personality but find someone who cares to argue that bullshit

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LMAO keep telling yourself that buddy

You're the one malding in the comments of an itch.io game because you saw some funny words. And now you're complaining about picking pronouns for the ROs before meeting them? Its very common in IF games to pick the gender (and thus pronouns) of the romance options ahead of time so all the ROs fit your tastes. Literally just complaining about one of the genre conventions now.

If you dont care about gender politics, why are you still here LOL? You're the one who came back to argue.

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I'm not reading all that. I don't have to justify anything to some random who's mad I don't like some game that makes them feel seen.

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Regardless of the actual topic here, disregarding an opinion against something simply due to the fact that it's common does not make sense. It's just an appeal to popularity, a logical fallacy. Obviously, there is also a lot of Ad Hominem (another logical fallacy) on both sides here, making this whole argument look silly.

I agree, both sides were illogical and having opinion is your right, if you don't like it, you don't have to, it's your choice, I can respect it.

But I will add this, if you have a issue with a game, this is not how you go about it, tell the creator how they should design the game is like telling a chef how to cook, it's just disrespectful and there is a difference in blatant disregarding their work and providing criticism, it's about respecting them 

Even though the other comment do give some ideas and changes ,they are giving criticism and aim to help in further updates, the op just wanted to yell about their issues and not how to fix them