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I believe the article fails notability. The article cites only a single non-independent source. A search has revealed only non-significant coverage in reference to games or the grounds and such (with the possible exception of this book page I found).
It was previously proposed for deletion in 2011, with the result being a weak keep with the expectation that user:Brocach would try to add sources. It had been more than a decade and the article has not been improved. Lenny Marks (talk) 15:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Cricket, and Northern Ireland. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Minor Update: It seems @Guliolopez has been able to find some more sources. I have not been able to review yet weather they constitute significant coverage, but at a glance they seem to be either incidental or non-independent. -- Lenny Marks (talk) 21:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep. Personally I can't support deletion. As noted above, I found and have added a number of sources which allow for the article to be expanded beyond a stub. And, in at least some cases, appear to support a claim to notability. While some of the more in-depth sources available appear to be connected to the subject (including at least one if not both of the "anniversary/history" pieces by Weir (2009) and Duffy (1984)), others seem more independent of the subject. Including the (granted somewhat "local interest") news stories and history coverage in Armagh Today, the Ulster Gazette, and the journal of the Armagh History Group. While I'm not exactly bowled over by these sources (hence the "weak keep" recommendation), outright deletion wouldn't seem appropriate at all. As, even if there was consensus that the org wasn't sufficiently notable for a standalone title, the title could be redirected (and the related content easily merged) to The Mall, Armagh or Armagh#Sport or NCU Senior League or any number of other titles. Personally I think, on balance, that this subject can just about sustain its own title however. Certainly can't support outright deletion. Guliolopez (talk) 00:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I appreciate your point about the ability to expand the article, I am still troubled by the other thing we both seemed to have noticed which is that the only ones that seem to constitute significant coverage are non-independent. It is my understanding of the notability policy that just because sources with information (even a lot of information) exist on a topic, it does not mean that a topic qualifies for a standalone article. Reliable sources must be independent to count towards the test and I just don't see this club as notable enough to warrant an encyclopedia article. If you want to maintain some of the article's content or expand from those sources, my feeling would be that your suggestion to merge some of the content is the best way to do it but, as it stands, I think the club simply does not satisfy notability. -- Lenny Marks (talk) 19:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As noted, if there is consensus that the topic doesn't warrant a standalone article then, at the very least, the content should be merged and title retained as a redirect. Perhaps to The Mall, Armagh#Club cricket. Which would be a reasonable/appropriate target. In keeping with WP:ATD-R. Guliolopez (talk) 21:02, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: not enough coverage on independent sources. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 16:30, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. This article has been heavily edited since its nomination. Please assess changes to it.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:57, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to The Mall, Armagh. AA (talk) 19:56, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and expand It's one of the oldest cricket clubs in Ireland and there are numerous book sources that can be used to expand the article. UaMaol (talk) 01:52, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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