Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sogna

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. In the absence of sources, we can't justify keeping this article. Claims that it was a well-known or prolific game studio are, unfortunately, just claims, in the absence of sourcing that backs them up. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:18, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Lack of notability, was unable to find any reliable sources. Lots of original research and promotional tone issues, as well as some non-sequitur statements such as "The anime follows the series' most famous protagonist, Carrera, as she accidentally falls in love with a human with only a single penis." Waxworker (talk) 20:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:02, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:02, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:02, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Note to closer for soft deletion: While this discussion appears to have no quorum, it is NOT eligible for soft deletion because it has been previously PROD'd (via summary). --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Logs: 2005-01 ✗ deleted

• Keep as prolific game maker, but trim to only verifiable info. Geschichte (talk) 11:59, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete WP:NCORP requires multiple sources (at least two) of deep or significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. That means, nothing that relies on company information or announcements or interviews, etc. None of the references in the article meet the criteria and having searched I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria. I also disagree that being a "prolific game maker" is enough of a reason to Keep, especially seeing as none of the games are notable either. Topic fails WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 14:17, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Sogna was a well-known PC game developer best remembered for their Viper series but i agree Geschichte in the sense that the page can be streamlined with references. Roberth Martinez (talk) 22:42, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@KGRAMR: As it stands, the article is entirely unreferenced and I was unable to find any reliable sources to incorporate. Even if sources were found for their games, finding anything that has significant coverage about the company itself seems unlikely. Waxworker (talk) 03:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Being wholly unreferenced, with no reliable sources offered in this discussion, it isn't even possible to convert this to a List of Sogna video games. czar 05:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I tried to find anything about the subject, but I failed, finding only passing mentions and listings. It fails WP:NCORP by a long shot sadly. It's telling that not even Japanese Wikipedia covers the subject (but it links to Viper game series article instead). "prolific game maker" and "well-known" (as mentioned by keep votes) means nothing and is a WP:ITSNOTABLE error. Czar pretty much said why this shouldn't be converted to a list, and the fact that none of Sogna's games have an article, drives the list's value even further down. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 15:01, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.