Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Netivot HaTorah Day School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Although most articles on elementary schools are redirected to their respective school district pages per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, this topic appears to have an exception because it passes significant coverage requirements in reliable secondary sources, according to consensus. (non-admin closure) TBr and ley ^{(what's up)} 02:43, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Netivot HaTorah Day School

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Tagged for notability for 5 years and unref; I couldn't establish notability. Boleyn (talk) 20:58, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 01:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Appears to be well-known, but not particularly notable. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) (formerly R——bo) 20:02, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) (formerly R——bo) 20:05, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If it is "well-known"" it therefore notable! IZAK (talk) 21:41, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Not notable Avi (talk) 20:12, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Striking delete due to article improvement. -- Avi (talk) 23:07, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I added a few book and newspaper references to the page, but I think that someone with access to historical information about the growth of Orthodox Judaism in northern Toronto will be able to add even more about this well-known school. Their kosher cookbook has also given them a broader geographical following. Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The references you added are indeed reliable, but until someone comes forth with historical information, there is a definite lack of notability, as I see no in-depth coverage in the sources cited. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) (formerly R——bo) 04:47, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - You are right, Hasirpad, and I agree with you. But I think that deleting this page would create a gap in Category:Jews and Judaism in Ontario that is taking a long time to build up. There are some additional mentions on Google Books that I did not use because I am not familiar with the history of Orthodox schooling in northern Toronto. Yoninah (talk) 13:08, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The sources added support a credible claim of notability. Alansohn (talk) 00:17, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - now meets WP:ORG. TerriersFan (talk) 03:56, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep now with better WP:RS and WP:V. As both a Jewish day school and a yeshiva having over 600 Jewish students it makes it huge and that in itself makes it a WP:N insitution, particularly with the cited references to back it up. IZAK (talk) 21:41, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: And yet, the only true in-depth coverage is in the Canadian Jewish News article[1], which fails to persuade me because it is clearly "advertorial" in tone (note the phone number provided at the end of the article) and because, if I recall correctly, the Canadian Jewish News, despite being somewhat national in scope, it is mostly a local paper (North York = Toronto, as far as their respective Jewish communities are concerned), and local coverage does not count very far for notability. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) (formerly R——bo) 23:44, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - the WP article says "The Canadian Jewish News (CJN) is a weekly, English-language tabloid-sized newspaper serving Canada's Jewish community." If this is wrong please fix it. Even if the coverage is regional it is still a RS; we have no prohibition on regional media (as opposed to small-town papers for example) being RS. I fail to see any reason for deletion. TerriersFan (talk) 01:01, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.