Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mattia Destro

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete due to WP:ATHLETE failure. Keep arguments failed to cite policy or guidelines, except in one case (which was answered sufficiently). Leave me a message if/when he makes his first team debut and I will restore. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 09:53, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mattia Destro

A non-notable youth footballer Matthew_hk t c 22:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: is in the first team squad, even if he has not appeared as yet. The article needs work, though. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:06, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Destro only trained with first team occasionally, and possibly play in friendlies (which is common that youth team member play). As he is born 1991 he is the absolute member of Primavera (U20) team but no source indicate he will be a member of first team in official match. Matthew_hk t c 08:44, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am the creator of the article. I hope you will help me improve the article instead of deleting it as I'm not a very good wiki editor yet. Also, I think Mourinho has indicated that Destro will be a part of the first team this season and will be given the chance in Serie A. Maxw93 (talk) 14:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - if he's not played for Inter or anyone else then he fails WP:ATHLETE. There isn't any wider notability at this stage either. So delete it and then make it again when he plays. As usual. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 02:59, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 02:59, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Giant Snowman 09:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom; non-notable player who fails WP:ATHLETE. Recreate when/if he becomes notable by making an appearance in a fully professional league. Giant Snowman 09:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete youth team player, never played with a first team. --Angelo (talk) 10:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Destro is now part of first team, he has great chance to stay with Mou. Also he took part to Under 17 European Championship, then he played with Italy U-18 and U-19. He's Flavio Destro's son. --Mutaforme (talk) 13:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Footballer fails notabilty for sportspeople at WP:ATHLETE, as he has never played in a fully-professional league/competition yet. Simply being in a squad doesn't fulfill any criteria as thousands of squad players from fully-pro teams drop into obscurity without playing. Also fails general notability due to lack of verifiable sources. Notability is not inherited either. Recreate if and when he ever does play at a fully-professional level. --Jimbo^[online] 13:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:N and WP:ATHLETE. Suggesting he may play this season is mere WP:CRYSTAL. recreate if and when.--ClubOranje^T 14:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He will play in the first team anytime soon. I am pretty sure he will make a debut this season. Please just keep this article. Thks. Christian Liberty (talk) 16:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:CRYSTAL Spiderone (talk) 17:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He got about 30 caps for Italian Youth Teams (range: under16-under19). He already played for a professional team (Ascoli) before joining Inter FC. Why deleting now if in september he will be fully elegible? Frances Bean 16:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.40.96.176 (talk) [reply]
- No, he has never played with Ascoli. That one was actually his father, Flavio Destro. --Angelo (talk) 12:26, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I know Flavio Destro; his son Mattia started playing for Ascoli (where he was born while the father was playing for the local team) at Youth Level then moved to Inter. Frances Bean 21:10, 16 July 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.40.86.76 (talk) [reply]

To me it seems stupid to delete an article that's bound to be needed in a couple of months, as Destro surely will make his competitive debut soon. But if that's the way of Wikipedia, so be it. I just hope that I'm the one who gets to make the new article then... But I hope that you decide to help me with the article instead of deleting it, I see that someone has already improved it a bit.. :) Maxw93 (talk) 19:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- You can just notify an admin to recreate it from the previous version from when it was deleted. --Jimbo^[online] 20:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Easily meets WP:N (which trumps WP:ATHLETE with articles in many countries about him such as [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. Nfitz (talk) 03:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first source is a fan site, so fails WP:RS. The second one is merely an interview regarding his current participation to the first team training camp in the USA (which does not necessarily mean he will actually be part of the first team). The third is a list of more than 20 players aged 16-19 the author believes to be the "future of Italian football" (needless to say it easily fails WP:V and WP:CRYSTAL), same for the fourth one (definitely not an independent party, it is an interview to a fellow Inter Primavera player). The Daily Mail link only refers to a rumor that proved out to be completely false regarding his possible move to QPR. Therefore none of these sources meet the WP:GNG. --Angelo (talk) 07:38, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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