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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. MBisanz talk 07:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Matt Nordgren (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
College football player that never played in any professional league and doesnt meet WP:Athlete Yankees10 20:37, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as non-notable. --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:09, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Clarification: it is well established now that a player need not play in the NFL, CFL or Arena league to be notable (call it the Jason White scenario), so simply using the "any professional league" clause as not meeting WP:Athlete is not a valid criteria in college football. --Bobak (talk) 21:18, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Still he shouldnt have an article he never was a starter at Texas, and did nothing to suggest he should have an article. And anyway Jason White won the Heisman, so he is notable regardless if he played in a professional league or not.--Yankees10 21:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, most certainly, I'm not voting for or against on this one. I just wanted to clarify the language in the nomination. --Bobak (talk) 21:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Still he shouldnt have an article he never was a starter at Texas, and did nothing to suggest he should have an article. And anyway Jason White won the Heisman, so he is notable regardless if he played in a professional league or not.--Yankees10 21:22, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Meets WP:Athlete as having played at the highest amateur level of his sport. Also the subject of several articles in reliable sources, see here. Oren0 (talk) 21:41, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Oren0, It says about the playing at the highest amateur level: usually considered to mean the OLYMPIC GAMES or WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS, not college football. --Yankees10 22:08, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Obviously college football isn't the highest possible amateur level of sports, but World Championships and Olympics are only open to professional sportspeople so they're not in the slightest a level of amateur sports either. - Mgm|(talk) 22:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Not true, only about 15% of the athletes who participate in the Olympics are fully professional, and those are mainly in the team sports like Basketball, before 1992 you can't even be professional to compete in the Olympics. Secret account 18:38, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. --Giants27 T/C 21:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. --Giants27 T/C 21:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete A non-notable college football player who never played as a pro, easy delete.--Giants27 T/C 21:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete NO evidence of notability. - 7-bubёn >t 22:12, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Although he does not meet the WP:ATHLETE exception, it seems he achieved general notability as a high-school player, there is coverage by reliable third-party sources. Once someone is notable, he cannot subsequently lose notability--2008Olympianchitchat 01:22, 30 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]
- Just because a kid was good in high school does not mean he should have his own article, there has been thousands of kids that have been great high school players should they have articles. I dont think so.--Yankees10 01:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - No notable career.►Chris NelsonHolla! 01:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete fails WP:ATHLETE Secret account 18:36, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.