Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamia Mosque Sialkot

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Star Mississippi 02:33, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jamia Mosque Sialkot

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Non-notable small local mosque. Fails WP:GNG. BookishReader (talk) 00:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Islam and Pakistan. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: User:BookishReader, I don't like your opening so many AFDs about Pakistani mosques all at once. Open one or two of something and see how they go, instead. I tend to think you/we are just not finding the right names of places to search on, and you/we do not have access to the newspapers and other sources in local languages, so you just have the wrong idea about some or all of these (i think).
Here, is this the masque subjected to attack in 2004, the Sialkot mosque bombing?
Is this the MOSQUE OF MULLA KAMAL UD DIN, SIALKOT?

If you think not, how can you tell? I do see there is mention of one being Shia, perhaps there are mosqes in Sialkot of multiple "denominations". Or there are mosques which have multiple names.

--Doncram (talk,contribs) 03:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've access to local sources (most of them are online) - no worries. Sialkot mosque bombing was an attack on Hussainiya (irrelevant to this mosque). Btw, it is not that difficult to find the right term to search. This mosque is commonly known as Jamia Masjid Donga Bagh in Sialkot, Pakistan (which is already written in the introductory sentence if you noticed. I found one mention about this mosque which I thought is not worth it to mention here.

As far as I can tell, this is a non-notable mosque that fails WP:SIGCOV. Ping me when you find at least one in-depth article in a secondary source. Thanks BookishReader (talk) 11:19, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: While the point brought up by BookishReader is true that this article has no reference thus falls the WP:GNG and warrant to AfD, but if we were to be more civilized in dealing with other Wikipedia editors who may not fully understood the detailed WP:GNG criteria, the first thing first is to tag an article as '{Unreferenced}' or need more citations before going straight away to AfD. Of course no genuine editor would be happy if many of his/her articles suddenly got AfD-tagged at the same time. No one. This will just discourage genuine (yet less experienced) editors from continuing to contribute to Wikipedia project. They will probably soon switch to become a full-time Instagrammers or TikTokers - I can guarantee that. So for this, if we see an articles has no reference, it's better to tag just one articles with that '{Unreferenced}' template and inform directly to the article creator (or the highest contributor (edit or bytes added)) on how to improve that particular Wikipedia article. Of course this comment of mine also applies to the Al-Muzaffar Mosque and CMH Masjid Jhelum articles who got AfD-tagged. Chongkian (talk) 05:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We've been tagging it as unreferenced since 2008, including your tag. It was also tagged in 2013. It is better to have a proper discussion about it. BookishReader (talk) 11:24, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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