Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grayson Hopper

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Twitch_Plays_Pokémon#Reception. I will do this with a simple redirect. Others are invited to edit the target article. Shii (tock) 20:40, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable as an independent subject (WP:NOTNEWS). Its notability is tied to Twitch Plays Pokémon as a parody. ViperSnake151  Talk  18:45, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If not deleted, it should be moved to Fish Plays Pokémon (which currently redirects to Twitch (website) article). The channel might get famous, such as Twitch Plays Pokémon did. The fish won't. Mateussf (talk) 18:57, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. The experiment appears to satisfy WP:WEBCRIT. It remains to be seen whether it will meet the standard described in WP:EVENT. I've redirected Fish Plays Pokémon to Grayson Hopper for now, added an example of media coverage to the reception section of the article, and linked to the article from Twitch Plays Pokémon. G. C. Hood (talk) 20:20, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to Fish Plays Pokémon. Should be the channel, not the fish. However it does have multiple outside, third-party sources so it is notable. (Although it could be a sub-section in the Reception section of Twitch Plays Pokémon.) And lets be honest: NO one is going to search the fish name to arrive on this article, they are gonna search Fish Plays Pokémon.--Ditto51 (My Talk Page) 20:33, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 22:51, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organisms-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:52, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:52, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge (whether this article or Fish Plays Pokemon) to Twitch Plays Pokemon. It's related to the TPP aspect (which is clearly notable on its own), but a separate article this is way too much. Can be discussed in context of TPP. --MASEM (t) 23:38, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to "Fish Plays Pokémon" and keep. The topic seems notable enough to not merge it with Twitch Plays Pokémon. [Soffredo] 08:09, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: WP:NOTNEWS.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:04, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose.
  • The concept of Fish Plays Pokémon is notable alone as it is satire of popular internet entertainment.
  • The amount of viral popularity enjoyed by FPP is notable in its own respect.
  • The community action involved with FPP creates a notable aspect certainly worthy of Wikipedia.
  • The social experiment on the result of some aspect of random entry into a game requiring sequential strategy is an interesting concept. The argument that "this is pointless" is invalid, this is nothing less than a completely scientific experiment on the concept of entropy.

--24.62.169.101 (talk) 13:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: He's just as deserving of a page as TwitchPlaysPokemon is, with the amount of viewers it's received. Irockz (talk) 02:31, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge*: it's clearly inspired by twitch plays pokemon and is related to it. It has received a large amount of media attention so it is notable, but it's too closely related to TPP to warrant its own article. 24.246.68.174 (talk) 22:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Go Phightins! 15:46, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge Fish Plays Pokemon with Twitch Plays Pokemon. I believe merging would be the best step, I disagree with deletion. Despite the novelty of the concept, FPP will be remembered as a phenomenon of internet history, and is likely to be researched in the future. Moresco has stated^[1] that the idea was inspired by Twitch Plays Pokemon.

--86.25.21.161 (talk) 16:29, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• It's a little too soon for this discussion as the nature of the event's notability is yet to be seen. It certainly has significant coverage from a variety of independent, reliable sources (WP:N) and there has been enough written on its novelty and creators to make a sizable article, but there is also the case that this doesn't clearly meet the Wikipedia:Notability (events) criteria, particularly where the event is not covered as significantly significant from TPP. In light of all this, I recommend merge to Twitch Plays Pokémon (ideally with first a rename to "Fish Plays Pokémon") until someone makes a talk page case for it passing the "duration of coverage" part of the event notability guideline. czar ♔ 00:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge - Lacks coverage for its own article. Sergecross73 msg me 02:26, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Move to Fish Plays Pokémon or Twitch Plays Pokémon - FPP is gaining some momentum, but in the event that isn't notable, merging it into the TPP article would also suffice. Zappa24Mati 03:09, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Twitch_Plays_Pokémon#Reception. Frmorrison (talk) 18:29, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Twitch_Plays_Pokémon#Reception or a subcategory thereof without prejudice to recreation should more independent notability be achieved.SPACKlick (talk) 14:44, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.