Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claire Bennet
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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 01:59, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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Doesn't seem to be a notable character. Article sources only mention the character in passing. I originally redirected this due to it being 76 KB of plot summaries and having a cleanup tag from 2009, but as another editor contested the redirection I thought it would be better to AFD it instead (after cutting most of the fancruft out). Suggest deletion and redirection to Heroes (American TV series). Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:30, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep [1], [2], [3], [4], [5].... And that's just from the first page of Scholar results. Some are a bit on the light side, one's an undergraduate thesis, but as a corpus I'm pretty sure that it shows the character has been the subject of scholarly reflection and meets GNG thereby. Jclemens (talk) 05:06, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- The first source does not contain SIGCOV level coverage. She is mentioned three times, the first two in plot summary, the last, as an example of character (other being Kate from Lost) who "serve primarily as objects to pursue, love, and protect." Although a half-sentence of analysis is better than nothing. The second source has a bit more but it is an "Undergraduate Thesis". The coverage in the book is promising, although preview does cut stuff off. It's on Z-library if anyone wants to look at it more. Link 5 is to an expired temporary copy of a file, so User:Jclemens, please fix the link. Bottom line, the topic may be notable but the current article is terrible. If someone fixes it, great, ping me and I'll revise my vote. Until then, redirect to the list of characters. But maybe User:Daranios or User:Toughpigs will rescue this before that happens, they have a good track record and this article seems salvageable. (Sidenote: I still remember the character... not that it's a factor in anything). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:09, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- I honestly have no idea why the 5th link doesn't work for you--it's what I got from Google Scholar, and still works for me. It was just '"Claire Bennet" Heroes' for the scholar search string, so you may be able to find it yourself. Jclemens (talk) 18:20, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- The first source does not contain SIGCOV level coverage. She is mentioned three times, the first two in plot summary, the last, as an example of character (other being Kate from Lost) who "serve primarily as objects to pursue, love, and protect." Although a half-sentence of analysis is better than nothing. The second source has a bit more but it is an "Undergraduate Thesis". The coverage in the book is promising, although preview does cut stuff off. It's on Z-library if anyone wants to look at it more. Link 5 is to an expired temporary copy of a file, so User:Jclemens, please fix the link. Bottom line, the topic may be notable but the current article is terrible. If someone fixes it, great, ping me and I'll revise my vote. Until then, redirect to the list of characters. But maybe User:Daranios or User:Toughpigs will rescue this before that happens, they have a good track record and this article seems salvageable. (Sidenote: I still remember the character... not that it's a factor in anything). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:09, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep I would say that this meets WP:GNG but it's close to failing, I think it's in a bit of a grey area. GoldMiner24 (talk) 06:06, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep There is a bit of positive reception of the character already in the article, and sources like some of those mentioned by Jclemens can expand this, fullfilling WP:WHYN. E.g. "Salva a la animadora, salva el mundo": una lectura propagandística de la serie Heroes talks about what the character represents and is by no means a passing mention, and Save the Cheerleader, Save the Males Resurgent Protective Paternalism in Popular goes in the same direction in a shorter way. What sources there are currently in the article are not decisive when determining notability, rather a proper WP:BEFORE search should be done before nominating an article for deletion. Daranios (talk) 08:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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