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Archive for January to March 2011

Gatoclass has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, so I've officially declared today as Gatoclass's Day! For being a great person and awesome Wikipedian, enjoy being the star of the day, Gatoclass! Signed, Neutralhomer A record of your Day will always be kept here.

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Hello Gatoclass. Kundalini yoga is the subject of renewed enthusiasm from editors who seem to be followers of Yogi Bhajan. At least three of the participants (Fatehji, RogerThatOne72 and 66.65.62.138) are the same editor, according to YellowMonkey's CU findings from last September. YM's information was given on his own talk page, and it is linked from the discussion at User talk:SpacemanSpiff#Kundalini yoga. I'm thinking of opening a formal WP:SPI (since I'd quite forgotten about this evidence). If you are familiar with sock issues, would you agree that all three incarnations of this editor should be blocked? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 05:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi there Ed, I'm not that familiar with socking issues but I think I could support a move to have these accounts blocked if they are proven socks, they have created a lot of disruption on associated articles already and if they are socks then that only makes the behaviour more reprehensible. In fact I think there is probably good cause to block the accounts on SPI/COI concerns alone, due to their relentless advocacy of a particular group. Please note that I won't be able to respond to further messages quickly as I don't currently have access to the net except by brief visits to internet cafes where I am typing this, a situation that I may not be able to resolve for a few weeks yet. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 06:19, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

See WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Fatehji, in case you want to comment there. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:28, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Gatoclass! Since you've been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, I wanted to let you know about the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, and specifically the role of Online Ambassador.

Ifyou're interested, I encourage you to take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines; the "mentorship process" describes roughly what will be expected of mentors during the current term, which started in January and goes through early May. If that's something you want to do, please apply!

You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE.

I hope to hear from you soon.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 19:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

[1] Regards.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at Israeli animal spy conspiracy theories. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  Sandstein  18:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose, at their own discretion, sanctions on any editor working on pages broadly related to the Arab-Israeli conflict if the editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. The committee's full decision can be read at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles#Final decision.

The block and the warning are on account of your two reverts today, [2] and [3], in violation of Wikipedia:ARBPIA#General 1RR restriction, as discussed at the end of this thread. This block is not an arbitration enforcement block for the reasons explained there.  Sandstein  18:44, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Gatoclass (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I have been an editor here for almost five years and an admin for the last two. In all that time I have maintained a clean block log. Six weeks ago I was obliged to relocate to another state to arrange a funeral, during which time I had only occasional access to the internet. Naturally I have been emotionally distracted by these events and after six weeks away, had completely forgotten about the 1RR restriction recently imposed on I-P articles. I did in fact recall the 1RR restriction a couple of hours after making the second revert, but by that time someone else had already reverted my edit so I had no opportunity to self-revert. This block was heavy handed and completely unnecessary as I could simply have been reminded of the 1RR restriction or given a warning, and I think a user with my record would be entitled to such a courtesy. Since this block is plainly serving no purpose and compromises an otherwise clean record, I therefore request that it be overturned. Regards, Gatoclass (talk) 02:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Accept reason:

Your explanation is sufficient to convince me that you will not continue reverting, regardless of whether or not I find the explanation credible. The block is therefore no longer necessary and is lifted. But please remember that it is your own responsibility, as an editor and especially as an administrator editing in the area of conflict, to know and comply with the applicable restrictions, which explicitly provide that "Editors who violate this 1RR restriction may be blocked without warning by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offence."  Sandstein  06:48, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

		The block log Barnstar
		(award details) - I would like to use this opportunity to thank User:Gatoclass for his fine contributions to wikipedia over the years and welcome him to the contributors that got a little heated club and allegedly made that caring extra revert. Many thanks, wear your record with pride, respect to you from Off2riorob (talk) 02:46, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I was sorry to see your news when I dropped by your talk page earlier to see what was going on, and I offer my condolences. I hope for happier days for you ahead. With very best wishes, Bencherlite^Talk 22:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Bench, your thoughts are very much appreciated. Gatoclass (talk) 01:28, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I saw the block and had typed up a response back, but I decided to avoid the drama. I was very surprised to see you blocked without a warning when it didn't appear that you regularly work in this area (thus probably not familiar with the 1RR restriction like I wouldn't be). Royalbroil 02:32, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I did know about the 1RR restriction, but having barely edited here for the last two months, it momentarily slipped my mind when I returned to make a few edits. At the time the 1RR was proposed, I did raise an objection to the "warning not required" clause, but it never occurred to me at the time that I might have cause to personally regret its inclusion. Gatoclass (talk) 06:15, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

FWIW as the editor that you reverted, I didn't think a block was warranted either. Especially since others started carrying on after your second edit I don't think it really served any purpose that a warning wouldn't have. I think that's the only page relating to the I/P conflict that I've worked on and I had forgotten the 1RR rule as well. Hope we can work together on less heated issues in the future. Qrsdogg (talk) 02:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, it wasn't really a "heated" issue for me :) I just made a couple of reversions of what I saw as a needlessly provocative comment. A couple of hours later I suddenly remembered the 1RR restriction, but by that time someone had already reverted me, so I couldn't self-revert. I did think of adding a note to the page apologizing for the error, but knowing how opportunistic some people are in this topic area, decided not to do so in the hope it would be overlooked. In retrospect, it would have been better to leave a note, but it's easy to be wise after the event. Gatoclass (talk) 05:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Idly curious about the etymology of your username? Gerardw (talk) 12:07, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

See this thread. Gatoclass (talk) 12:21, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Gerardw (talk) 12:52, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem :) Gatoclass (talk) 13:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, I see you are active right now, and a major DYK admin helper. I have a time-sensitive favor to ask. This semester, I am a Campus Ambassador for Wikimedia at Simmons College. Basically, as an experienced Wikipedian, I am helping the students in a class who are creating content on Wikipedia as part of their class curriculum. You can see more about the program, part of Wikimedia's Public Policy Initiative at outreach:Public Policy Initiative. (I don't mean sound official, obviously the title carries no extra weight on Wikipedia itself.) You might also check out WP:AMBASS and WP:CAMPUS, and my specific course is at Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Courses/Spring 2011/Public Relations Seminar (Marlene Fine). Anyway, I say that by way of introducing and justifying what I was about to ask, because it is out-of-process. As you can see from the course page, one of our students' milestones will be to try to get their articles on DYK. In the past, apparently, that was a major perk for students, and really motivated them—which is partly what the project is about, to excite new editors and gain long-term contributors.

Last week, I was using an article being drafted in my sandbox as an example of how to create their own sandboxes, so tonight I thought of getting that article on DYK in time to coincide with class time. It would probably surprise them to see it on the main page, and would give them firsthand knowledge of what they are working toward. And now the hitch: the class is Wednesday, 1 pm EST (10 hours from now), and I haven't even nominated the article (having just come up with the idea), so I can't go through normal channels. The time puts it in queue 2, if I read the times right, which is already full. It looks like there is room enough to bump a current hook down half a day. I think it's for a good cause, but I am not sure how big of a deal that would be (for the editor bumped down, and for doing it out-of-process).

I might have a dozen DYKs myself over the past 5 years, so I'm not exceedingly familiar with the culture there. The article that I have been writing is Lincoln Ragsdale, which is longish and I think should be pretty safe as far as DYK standards go. My idea for a hook, though I am not picky, is "...that Phoenix civil rights leader Lincoln Ragsdale helped coordinate and fund a lawsuit that produced the first court decision declaring school segregation unconstitutional in the United States?" The hook is cited and I will of course review a DYK nomination, as required. If it would make you uncomfortable, it's not a big deal, but it would be really, really awesome if you could help me out. :-) I leave it up to you. Thanks! And sorry that this was long. Dominic·t 08:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

You're right, I had missed on copying them over when I was working offline. It is now fixed. Thanks for looking at it so promptly. Dominic·t 09:07, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much! :-) Dominic·t 09:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello! I think the issue I raised over at Sandstein's talk page is pretty serious. Thanks a lot for your comments. Given your vast experience here may I ask your advice as to where I should raise it? I think if left unchecked this can do serious damage to the project. - BorisG (talk) 12:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

If you want a wider discussion, you could try WP:AN I guess (not AN/I, that's for emergencies). Gatoclass (talk) 13:31, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. Yes I want a wider discussion, but maybe I will wait for more comments. In the meantime there is a new thread over at User talk:Sandstein on exactly the same issue, with stronger arguments for Sandstein's approach. We shall see. - BorisG (talk) 14:01, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Gatoclass, thanks for working on the article. I raised one more question at the talk's page.Could you please address it there? I'd like to add you as the article's creator for DYK. Is this OK with you? Regards.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:19, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Sure, why not? I think the article is in reasonable shape now. Gatoclass (talk) 16:33, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

done.Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:08, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I am not sure why did you remove it. Listen, would you like to help me with this article? Why we only work together on some I/P related articles? Why not to work together on something funny like this one is? Regards.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:24, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. But I have a number of my own articles I am in the process of writing, and I'm afraid I don't have time to take on yet more content creation. I really only do substantial work on other people's articles when I see problems with them at DYK that I think need to be rectified. Gatoclass (talk) 07:47, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

On 8 March 2011, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Bruce Bawer's While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within was described both as "well written and well informed" and as using "wildly exaggerated statistics"? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC) 03:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Gatoclass, here's a new article: Stoning murder of Israeli teens. May I please ask you to help me to make it DYK ready? Thanks for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but probably not. I have a lot of content creation of my own I'm working on right now, and I really don't want to get distracted from it. Your article looks to have some POV issues, I might try to give it a tweak or two at some point, but that's probably all I'll be able to manage. Gatoclass (talk) 05:44, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for sticking up for me, or at least against the actions took by HJ Mitchell against me. Passionless -Talk 08:38, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Gatoclass (talk) 09:16, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

I hope you can pass the DYK soon :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 01:30, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been very busy with my own content creation over the last few days. I haven't forgotten your nom and I intend to take another look at it shortly and hopefully get any potential problems quickly sorted out. Gatoclass (talk) 01:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

I am fine with your edits, thanks for further expansion! I presume you'll pass it now? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Added a link to the Northerner, one of the ships on your page User:Gatoclass/SB/Novelty_Iron_Works. Fascinating reading, thanks !! Ellin Beltz (talk) 01:24, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Glad you enjoyed it :) It's been a fun company to research, but there's quite a bit more to do before the article is ready for mainspace. Gatoclass (talk) 03:57, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

From someone who has worked at a now modern copper works, those images are awesome. Nice job tracking those drawings down.Cptnono (talk) 06:30, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) Gatoclass (talk) 06:42, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

[4] I could see the hand of the Master!--Mbz1 (talk) 01:08, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Well I'd hardly describe myself that way, but thanks for the compliment. I've given the hook another slight tweak and added a possible alt, BTW. Gatoclass (talk) 01:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

I meant it, Gato. and please believe me I really appreciate your help. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Today is a day of "thank you". Now my "thank you" is for this comment, a comment of a wise man. Honestly I wish somebody would have given me such advise before I filed that AE against you a year ago :-). Regards.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

It is acceptable behaviour to leave notes like "Note XXXXX is an account created today" at a !vote, right? Thanks, Passionless -Talk 17:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

I think that would probably be okay. Gatoclass (talk) 02:48, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

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After Murder of Koby Mandell and Yosef Ishran was noted on the DYK talk page, I followed your edits. Wikipedia needs folks who are even-handed and willing to get in the middle of the emotionally-charged debates. You handled the matter with diplomacy and balance. Good work. Cbl62 (talk) 05:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Cbl :) Gatoclass (talk) 05:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

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