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AFC submission/comments listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect AFC submission/comments. Since you had some involvement with the AFC submission/comments redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Stefan2 (talk) 21:18, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Rhacodactylus trachyrhynchus

is the most common name. The guideline doesn't say "the common name should be used when possible as long as the name is uncontroversial and reliable sources call it as such". There are several vernacular names for the species, so they are even less common. cygnis insignis 09:31, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

@Cygnis insignis: When I reviewed SkyGazer 512's request, it seemed to follow WP:FAUNA's advice to use a vernacular name unless it is ambiguous or there is no consensus on which is the most common name. A check of sources showed that the requested vernacular name was far more popular than the other two listed in the article. --Ahecht (TALK
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I regard these moves as contentious and would prefer that they not be forwarded as technical requests. My opinion is that interpretation of policy and guidance has been skewed by otherwise disinterested contributors engaged in a culture war, close application of these documents gives the accepted and regulated name as the default. That's the background in nutshell, and your action is understandable given a trend or cause célèbre to suppress the nomenclature that reliable sources use to convey information; my post here is to merely to flag this not a technical request. I hope this note finds you well and that you have a safe season. cygnis insignis 04:09, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Noted. I will undo the move as contested. SkyGazer 512, please open a move discussion on the article talk page if you wish to pursue a move (and given the relatively low traffic, you might want to post a link to the discussion at some place like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles). --Ahecht (TALK
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(responding here since I was pinged) I agree with Ahecht's interpretation of the guideline; its common name seems to be more commonly used than the scientific name, the common name is not "so disputed in reliable sources that it cannot be neutrally ascertained" and "When there is no common name or no consensus can be reached on the most common name, or if it isn't clear what taxon the common name refers to" is not true either. If the title were to be at its common name, the scientific name would be a redirect and would have a mention in one of the first words of the lead, so I'm not really sure how that's "suppressing nomenclature." AFAIK, the title should be at what is most commonly used in English as confirmed by reliable sources, not what is most commonly used by scientists; this seems to be the case here. I didn't think that a move such as this would be considered controversial; otherwise I wouldn't have listed it at WP:RM/TR. All that being said, it's true that the common name is mentioned in the lead as well and that it's a redirect, as well as the fact that it's not a very high-traffic page. Therefore, I don't think I'm going to open a RM at this time, as it doesn't seem worth the trouble, but I would be happy to participate if someone else happens to want to do so. Thanks to both of you for commenting and letting me know about this.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 15:10, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
SkyGazer 512, "Rough-snouted giant gecko (Rhacodactylus trachyrhynchus), also known as the greater rough-snouted gecko or tough-snouted gecko, …" which of these terms defines the page concept, allows us to say 'rough-snouted giant gecko' = 'greater rough-snouted gecko'? I may be able to establish this, in English language sources, but not without an accepted and verifiable description of the organism. cygnis insignis 15:47, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
@Cygnis insignis: Not trying to be dense here, but I'm not quite clear on what you're asking. How exactly is this different than if the lead were in scientific-name layout? (which I guess we need to change this to now that it's been moved back)--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 17:21, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I moved this discussion to Talk:Rhacodactylus trachyrhynchus, where it can have a bit more visibility. --Ahecht (TALK
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Annual Report

Thanks for delivering your write-ups, but given Stallone will hardly enter the final 50, can you pick another one to have two entries? (maybe Priyanka Chopra, fooling people into thinking you're Indian...) igordebraga 23:15, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

@Igordebraga: My internet will be very limited throughout the week, but if I have some quality internet time this weekend I may grab a remaining slot. --Ahecht (TALK
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pageswap updates

Hi Ahecht, I noticed you were making some local updates to pageswap w.r.t post-move cleanup. (apologies about the shape/design of the js code, it's not that great looking back at it) Just an FYI, I mentioned some cases here that I was thinking about possibly handling (or not). I personally feel unwilling to own post-move cleanup logic until all those questions I had in that diff can be answered solidly. Two of my other worries are:

  1. Page movers getting complacent and forgetting/neglecting to check for other basic things outside of redirects
  2. If the script is going to issue many more API queries, how much slower is the user experience (this might be critical; the script doesn't provide feedback on move progress and I suspect some users don't understand that the api takes time... could be an argument to limit the requests, idk)

Thanks for looking into this a bit I suppose (don't mean to be nosy) (JFG FYI) — Andy W. (talk) 18:22, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Looks really promising. Thanks for the ping. Ahecht, let me know when you feel your work is ready for testing, and I'll be happy to try and break it… Andy, regarding your #1 worry, perhaps the script can simply give the human a friendly reminder to check the extra cleanup steps. — JFG talk 18:51, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
@Andy M. Wang and JFG: I was mostly playing around with the code to see what the corner-cases were. I hid it behind an option (setting var pagemoveDoPostMoveCleanup = true; in common.js), and I tried to make it as limited as possible (only asks about creating a redirect if one talk exists and the other doesn't, doesn't look at sub-page talk pages, and doesn't try to resolve self redirects). I agree that resolving self-redirects automatically is problematic, but I think there is little risk to prompting the user to create a new talk page redirect out of a redlink. The additional API calls are between a set of new messages, so there isn't increased "no feedback" time, it won't overwrite an existing talk page, and it still prompts the editor to perform cleanup afterwards and check for other redlinked pages in their contributions (for subpages, for example). I also made a few other tweaks, such as not asking about moving talk pages if subpages aren't being moved and neither of the swapped pages have a talk page.
JFG, I'll let you know when it's stable enough to at least test in your userspace. --Ahecht (TALK
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(edit conflict) Good. Regarding redirects to self, I hope you can find a way to automate their modification; this has been the largest source of confusion and mistakes, and this feature has been a repeat request towards Andy. Also, the fewer prompts, the better: tell the user exactly what will happen, then do it after just one confirmation. — JFG talk 19:36, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
@JFG: You can test it by adding the following to your common.js:
pagemoveDoPostMoveCleanup = true;
mw.loader.load( '//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); // Page Swap [[User:Ahecht/pageswap]]
As I mentioned above, I would recommend testing it in your userspace first. --Ahecht (TALK
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Thanks. I've done a first try, but did not notice an improvement from the UX standpoint. The script correctly informs me about all subpages of both the source and target pages, and their talk pages, but that's in a succession of prompts; this would be better on a single screen. Then I can choose whether to move subpages or not (in this case I did not), the script gives me a final recap of the actions planned (good), and off we go. However, the script still left a redirect to self. Happy to do more tests with a full set of subpages, talk pages and history, but really only useful for me if the self-redirect is resolved. — JFG talk 19:53, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
@JFG: I wasn't planning on resolving self-redirects at this point. The first step was just creating missing talk pages. I think that the workflow for the actual moving should be separated somewhat from the cleanup, hence the prompts about creating talk pages coming after the confirmation of the move. If I do move on to resolving self-redirects, it would go in the same set of operations as creating the talk page. In any case, I won't have much time to work on it until next year. --Ahecht (TALK
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Merry Christmas!

Wishing you and your family all the best in 2019 . --TheSandDoctor Talk 07:40, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

@TheSandDoctor: Thanks. Best wishes to you and yours as well!. --Ahecht (TALK
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Ahechtbot task

Hi. Just wondering if you would be intereseted in a task for Ahechtbot? This search brings up about 5000 user talk pages that need the signatures fixing on them.

  • Replace: <font face="Segoe Print">[[User:TTTSNB|<font color=#0040B0>The Thing]] <small>//</small> [[User talk:TTTSNB|<font color=#007080>Talk]] <small>//</small> [[Special:Contributions/The Thing That Should Not Be|<font color=#00A050>Contribs]]</span>
  • With: <font face="Segoe Print">[[User:TTTSNB|<span style="color:#0040B0;">The Thing</span>]] <small>//</small> [[User talk:TTTSNB|<span style="color:#007080;">Talk</span>]] <small>//</small> [[Special:Contributions/The Thing That Should Not Be|<span style="color:#00A050;">Contribs</span>]]</font>

I've been fixing some signatures myself with my own bot account but this list is quite long and will take a while to do, so any help would be appreciated. -- WOSlinker (talk) 09:49, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Might as well go all the way and get rid of the obsolete font tags:
<span style="font-family:Segoe Print;">[[User:TTTSNB|<span style="color:#0040B0;">The Thing</span>]] <small>//</small> [[User talk:TTTSNB|<span style="color:#007080;">Talk</span>]] <small>//</small> [[Special:Contributions/The Thing That Should Not Be|<span style="color:#00A050;">Contribs</span>]]</span>
I've been replacing some font-wrapped signatures in Template space, and here are the regexes I have been using:
  //font wrapping links - move inside link and convert to span tag
  str = str.replace(/<font color="([#a-z\d]+)">(\[\[User:[a-z\d_\'& öß]+\|)([a-z\d_\'&\(\)\-\?öß]+)(\]\])<\/font>/gi, '$2<span style="color:$1;">$3<\/span>$4');
  str = str.replace(/<font color="([#a-z\d]+)">(\[\[Special:Contributions\/[a-z\d_\'& öß]+\|)([a-z\d_\'&Ω\(\)\-\?öß]+)(\]\])<\/font>/gi, '$2<span style="color:$1;">$3<\/span>$4');
  str = str.replace(/<font color="([#a-z\d]+)">(\[\[User[ _]talk:[a-z\d_\'& öß]+\|)([a-z\d_\'&ταλκ\(\)\-\?öß]+)(\]\])<\/font>/gi, '$2<span style="color:$1;">$3<\/span>$4');

  //replace font tag in user and user talk links with span tag, while I'm here
  str = str.replace(/(\[\[User:[a-z\d_\'& öß]+\|)<font color="([#a-z\d]+)">([a-z\d_\'&\(\)\-\?öß]+)<\/font>(\]\])/gi, '$1<span style="color:$2;">$3<\/span>$4');
  str = str.replace(/(\[\[User[ _]talk:[a-z\d_\'& öß]+\|)<font color="([#a-z\d]+)">([a-z\d_\'&ταλκ\(\)\-\?öß]+)<\/font>(\]\])/gi, '$1<span style="color:$2;">$3<\/span>$4');
  str = str.replace(/(\[\[Special:Contributions\/[a-z\d_\'& öß]+\|)<font color="([#a-z\d]+)">([a-z\d_\'& \(\)\-\?öß]+)<\/font>(\]\])/gi, '$1<span style="color:$2;">$3<\/span>$4');
They don't account for all possible user names and all possible syntax that editors used inside of their signatures, because I like to avoid false positives, but they sure do catch a lot of them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:06, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
@Jonesey95 and WOSlinker: My current BRFA is stalled, so it might withdraw that one and submit a new one. I'll add these on. --Ahecht (TALK
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Technical Wishes: News from the FileExporter feature

Hello. In June, a first version of the FileExporter was released as a beta feature on a few first wikis. Thanks again for your feedback! Here are some news:

  • We’ve worked some more on the feature: Bugs were fixed, and new functionality added. For instance, log entries are now created for imports to make it easier to find imported files. Please be aware that we’re still in the beta phase and that the feedback process is ongoing.
  • The FileExporter is now available on all other wikis.

We’d be happy to hear your thoughts on this new version on the central feedback page. Best, Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 12:53, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Notability of railway stations

You were interested in this topic. There is a new RfC on the topic: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#RfC_India_railway_stations and private discussion at User:Cesdeva/sandbox7 Rhadow (talk) 14:42, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

RFC rail station

Do you wanna RFC the rail stations to dispell the notion that all stations are notable? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 16:23, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

cc @Rhadow: --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 16:26, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello Ahecht and Tyw7, see here Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#RfC_India_railway_stations and here User:Rhadow/sandbox. Rhadow (talk) 16:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Rhadow, got it. Commented. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 16:40, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Notability

Hello Ahecht, you were involved in an AfD whose result presumed notability for all railway stations, just as we previously did for schools. You might be interested in this one: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hapa Road railway station. There are currently 2,800 articles written about the 8,500 India railway stations. Two thousand of those are stubs and several hundred are single-source sub-stubs. The inclusionists point to Wikipedia:Notability_(Railway_lines_and_stations)#Stations as policy that mandates notability, but I don't read it that way. Rhadow (talk) 15:38, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello Ahecht, thank you for your thoughtful contributions to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hapa_Road_railway_station. While the result was no consensus, the back-and-forth exposed topics that deserve clarification in the essay Wikipedia:Notability_(Railway_lines_and_stations)#Stations or in the form of an RfC similar to [on secondary school notability]. Rhadow (talk) 12:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Notice

The article SAILS Library Network has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Does not meet WP:ORG

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. John from Idegon (talk) 19:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of SAILS Library Network for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article SAILS Library Network is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SAILS Library Network until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. John from Idegon (talk) 20:08, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Template:DNV\sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Unused redirect with awkward backslash

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:59, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

why was my page deleted

please let us know why our village history page is deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by Okeolaroyalfamily (talkcontribs) 20:17, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Okeolaroyalfamily: It was not deleted, it was moved to Draft:History of Oke Ola at the request of DannyS712. You had placed the article in the "Wikipedia:" namespace, which is reserved for pages about the behind-the-scenes operations of Wikipedia, and is not where new articles should be created. --Ahecht (TALK
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Script not loading

Hi, I'm trying to loading User:Ahecht/Scripts/massmove on bnwiki. But it's not loading for me. I see nothing [bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Massmove here]. Any idea why? --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 03:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: It appears to be a problem with Plastikspork's script -- it's not loading for me either. --Ahecht (TALK
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A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar
Good job on ‎Verrückt. 7&6=thirteen () 16:21, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello Ahecht,

News
Discussions of interest
  • Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
  • {{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
  • A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
  • There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.
Reminders
  • NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.
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Undo on John Legend in EGOT article

I just undid your undo on List of people who have won Academy, Emmy, Grammy, and Tony Awards because the phrase "any run" as used in the John Legend section is too vague and subjective to be NPOV; it arbitrarily picked out his 10th Grammy as the start of a "run" to claim the "shortest" title. As used elsewhere in the EGOT list, the proper calculation is from first win of first award to first win of fourth award; by that standard Legend took 12 years to get his EGOT, not 3-1/2 (and longer than Robert Lopez's 10 years). --RBBrittain (talk) 06:51, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Minor correction: His 10th Grammy came after his Oscar, but before his Tony & Emmy. Still, his proper time calculation for his EGOT "run" starts with his first three Grammys in 2006, not his Oscar in 2015. (Notice I did not remove the related statement that he won each of the four awards in four consecutive years; that says essentially the same thing more clearly.) --RBBrittain (talk) 07:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
@RBBrittain: The same language was used for Robert Lopez. If you feel it's unclear, perhaps clarifying it as and has the shortest time to complete any run of EGOT wins (3 years, 7 months, starting with his Academy Award win in 2015) would help. --Ahecht (TALK
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I'm a little concerned that you moved the 562d FTS page as that IS its legal designation, regardless of WP:MOS concerns. Buffs (talk) 22:27, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

@Buffs: This was discussed in length at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers/Archive_158#MOS:ORDINAL. Plenty of official military and DoD sources use the "562nd" spelling (e.g. [1], [2], [3], and [4]). Also, see WP:OFFICIALNAMES. --Ahecht (TALK
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While I was unaware of the discussion, I'm fine with previous consensus. I've added the official naming convention as depicted on the patch (and other official documents) as part of the lead. Given that the redirect is in-place, I see no issues. Thanks! Buffs (talk) 15:20, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
@Buffs: The only patches I could find look like this one. They don't use the "d" designation, they just say "562 FTS". --Ahecht (TALK
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Um...from the page itself: [5] Buffs (talk) 15:23, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Akhila Anand

I have completed editing my draft “AKHILA ANAND” Kindly move it to review space before moving it to article space Deepusg

@Deepusg: You can submit it for review yourself. Just go to Draft:Akhila Anand, look for the gray box at the top, and click on the blue button that says "Submit your draft for review!". --Ahecht (TALK
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Your BRFA

Hello Ahecht, your recent BRFA (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Ahechtbot 5) has been approved with a ramp up schedule. Please see the closing notes before starting. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 13:44, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

excel to wiki

hi when I open this page in chrome. a white window pops up and doesn't allow to see the page. please solve it. P.S. In firfox it is ok Chrome Version 71.0.3578.98 (Official Build) (64-bit)Yamaha5 (talk) 19:57, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

@Yamaha5: It seems to be working fine for me in Chrome. Try clearing your cache, disabling any ad-blocking or javascript-blocking software, or try upgrading your Chrome to the latest version (72 has been out since late January). --Ahecht (TALK
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I have this problem more than 1 year. finally I found the problem. it has conflict with grammarly extension at the chromeYamaha5 (talk) 19:01, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Request for a feature
Would you please add a copy button to copy the result to clipboardYamaha5 (talk) 04:53, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
@Yamaha5: Good idea! I added a copy button, feel free to try it out. --Ahecht (TALK
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thanks. is it possible to move the button to the top. when the result is too long we should go to the end to find the button :) also grammarly is well know extension and many people use it. please solve it in my opinion may be the problem is similar tag id or class name. Yamaha5 (talk) 15:14, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
@Yamaha5: I will look at button placement later this week, but I don't want to drastically change the way I'm doing the layout. Without knowing how grammarly works, I wouldn't really be able to fix the issue (and grammarly does seem to have some problems with browsers that are set to use non-latin languages such as Farsi, see [6]). --Ahecht (TALK
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thanks!
thank you for this great tool! --Biafra (talk) 13:45, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Recent vandalism on National Eligibility Entrance Test

Your recent vandalism to the page National Eligibility Entrance Test by moving the page to a similar title with profanity is unacceptable behavior. Any further inappropriate behavior will result in my contacting an administrator. If you do not recognize this behavior, I would recommend changing your password.

AvRand (talk) 12:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

@Avrand6: "cum" in this case is the Latin word meaning "plus" or "along with", not profanity (see https://grammarist.com/usage/cum/). It is commonly used in academia, such as in latin honors like cum laude, magna cum laude, and summa cum laude. If you did the bare minimum amount of research before blaming me of vandalism, such as actually visiting the official website for the test at http://www.ntaneet.nic.in, you would've seen that NEET does indeed stand for NATIONAL ELIGIBILITY CUM ENTRANCE TEST. Please revert your page move and edits to the page. --Ahecht (TALK
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st170 seems to have taken charge of this matter at this point. I would recommend discussing your issue with them.

AvRand (talk) 12:27, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of unused article assessment class templates for deletion

I have nominated {{AN-Class}}, {{GAN-Class}}, {{FAC-Class}}, and {{FT-class}} for deletion. You are invited to comment at the templates' deletion discussion. I have notified you because you were involved with renovating the description pages and template formatting for these templates. eπi (talk | contribs) 02:12, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Lion King

Sorry, I reverted a vandal without noticing he'd used two IPs. Doug Weller talk 21:03, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Template request

Hey Ahecht, I'm the guy who you helped in the VPT a long time ago. I'm having another question about the tempaltes, feel free to answer me or not.

Here's the thing, I'm looking for the same as I questioned in the VPT, but now I'm wanting uniques texts when using a same parameter. I will tell you exactly and you need to go the article es:Indianapolis 500 de 2018, in the mid part of the infobox you can see a "section" called Pole position, and after that two labels called Piloto and Primero, ok the issue is that between that two labels, there's a section called Podio, but it doesn't appears because doesn't have the labels of fastest lap completed, as you can see here: es:Anexo:Gran Premio de Azerbaiyán de 2019. And the problem is the same as the VPT as I said, when I put that parameter Primero, appears a Podio section in articles that do not need it, because they had that section called Palmares.

So, I need that when I using automovilismo in the parameter deporte=, it shows Podio instead of nothing, but show nothing when the deporte parameter is completed with another thing. Is that possible? If you want to see the template here it is: es:Plantilla:Ficha de competición deportiva, "seccion52".

As I said, feel free to answer, if you want to help me (and have time to do it) you can do it in my spanish talk, but no problem if you do it in the english one. Have a good one. ShaGuarF1 (talk) 23:49, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@ShaGuarF1: I'm not entirely clear on the issue, since I'm both unfamiliar with racing and the spanish vocubulary used. If the issue is that the "Podio" section heading isn't showing up, it's because of the line |seccion52 = {{#if:{{{vuelta_rápida_país|}}}{{{vuelta_rápida_piloto|}}}{{{vuelta_rápida_equipo|}}}{{{vuelta_rápida_tiempo|}}}|'''Podio'''|}} which only shows the header if one of the four velta_rápida variables are present. If you want that heading to show whenever Primero is specified, you would add {{{primero|}}} just before the |'''Podio''' part. --Ahecht (TALK
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Yeah, I know that, but when I add the parameter primero to that line, the template shows a additional Podio section when is no necessary, that is to say that adds a section below or above another section. I want that adding the parameter primero to that line, it shows only on articles which have the line deporte = automovilismo. So when te parameter primero is completed with the line deporte = automovilismo, it shows that podio section, but otherwise if primero is completed but deporte is not completed with automovilismo, it doesn't show that podio section and add the another section. ShaGuarF1 (talk) 20:50, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
@ShaGuarF1: Try adding {{#ifeq:{{lc:{{{deporte|}}}}}|automovilismo|{{{primero|}}}|}} instead of just {{{primero|}}}. It basically says "if deporte = automovilismo then add primero to the variables to check, otherwise, don't add anything". --Ahecht (TALK
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Yeah, that worked. You saved me once again. Have a good week, bye for now. ShaGuarF1 (talk) 02:41, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello Ahecht,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

  • Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
  • Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.
Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

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~ Celebrity Edge~

Thanks~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 21:19, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

@Mitchellhobbs: Did you forget to include your message? --Ahecht (TALK
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lol ~ no I was just telling you thanks for your work on this picture ~ I used it on my main page ~ Mitchellhobbs (talk) 14:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
@Mitchellhobbs: All I did was trim it down -- credit goes to Jjerome78. --Ahecht (TALK
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Ways to improve Climate of South Brazil

Hello, Ahecht,

Thanks for creating Climate of South Brazil! I edit here too, under the username Boleyn and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-

Please add a clear references section and information as to why this is notable enough for a standalone article.

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Boleyn (talk) 20:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Ways to improve Climate of Southeast Brazil

Hello, Ahecht,

Thanks for creating Climate of Southeast Brazil! I edit here too, under the username Boleyn and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-

Same concerns.

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Boleyn (talk) 20:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

An article you recently created, Climate of South Brazil, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

An article you recently created, Climate of Southeast Brazil, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:40, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@CASSIOPEIA: Those were direct forks from Climate of Brazil, along with the other pages in Category:Climate of Brazil by region. If you are moving those articles to draftspace, you should probably also scrub the text from the parent article. --Ahecht (TALK
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Your draft article, Draft:List of colors: S–Z

Hello, Ahecht. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of colors: S–Z".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. CptViraj (Talk) 15:40, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello Ahecht,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.

Notifying users

Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.

PERM

Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.

Other news

School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.

Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.


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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Infobox attraction edits

Just curious what the new "ride" parameter is for. Also, prior to your recent edits, another editor added a "Sponsored by" field that I'd like to revert. However, I don't want to lose your changes in the process. Here's are the diffs of what I'm talking about: template diff, documentation diff. Would you mind reverting the template and its documentation to an earlier version before those changes, then reinstate yours? --GoneIn60 (talk) 03:18, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

@GoneIn60: Special:Diff/904790854 should explain the ride parameter. I removed the "sponsored" field as well. --Ahecht (TALK
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Alright, thanks. --GoneIn60 (talk) 16:09, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! --Ahecht (TALK
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) 15:00, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ahecht,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username SportingFlyer and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I’ve proposed an article that you started, Climate of Northeast Brazil, for deletion because it meets one of the relevant criterion.The particular issue can be located in the notice, that is now-visible at the top of the article.

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SportingFlyer T·C 05:30, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ahecht,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username SportingFlyer and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I’ve proposed an article that you started, Climate of North Brazil, for deletion because it meets one of the relevant criterion.The particular issue can be located in the notice, that is now-visible at the top of the article.

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SportingFlyer T·C 05:31, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ahecht,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username SportingFlyer and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I’ve proposed an article that you started, Climate of Center-West Brazil, for deletion because it meets one of the relevant criterion.The particular issue can be located in the notice, that is now-visible at the top of the article.

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  1. Edit the page
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  3. Click Publish Changes button.

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SportingFlyer T·C 05:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

thanks

thanks for fixing my error atthe current RfA, where I put something in the wrong paragraph. DGG ( talk ) 18:18, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Thanks for creating Climate of South Brazil.

User:QueerEcofeminist while reviewing this page as a part of our page curation process had the following comments:

Please add more references to articles you created on Climate of South Brazil and other articles on similar theme.

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QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 18:24, 11 August 2019 (UTC)