Talk:White Party (Sean Combs)

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• ... that Sean Combs promised not to spill champagne on the Declaration of Independence?

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No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

White parties have been going on in the elite circles well before Sean Combs decided to start throwing them. It seems inappropriate to give him credit for the entire concept which has dated back centuries! 2603:8001:7106:C515:7811:9D52:2B0E:FC2C (talk) 23:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It has been proposed in this section that White Party (Sean Combs) be renamed and moved to Diddy Parties. A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

White Party (Sean Combs) → Diddy Parties – As stated in the article, Diddy Parties is more commonly referred to with regards to White parties by Sean Combs (Diddy). Proposing move per WP:CONCISE, WP:COMMONNAME, and WP:PRECISE. Other alternatives like Diddy Party, White Party (Diddy), etc. are not off the table. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 18:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 18:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Hip hop, WikiProject Sociology, WikiProject Culture, and WikiProject New York (state) have been notified of this discussion. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 21:14, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. To my eye, "Diddy parties" is a colloquialism[] where far more encyclopedic alternatives are obvious, which WP:NPOVNAME advises us to avoid. I also disagree with the claim that the proposed title is more precise—"White Party (Sean Combs)" unambiguously refers to a specific series of parties that Combs held, whereas "Diddy parties" could refer to any number of parties he might have thrown. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 22:00, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support - White Parties (Diddy) or something like that Diddy's white parties solely because I can't see how the present name could be the WP:COMMONNAME. I'm not opposed to Diddy parties but I think there are NPOV and BLP concerns there that should be more thoroughly discussed. estar8806 (talk) ★ 22:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• WP:SENTENCECASE please. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment White party and White parties currently redirect to Circuit party. Is that a justified primary topic? If not, we can consider a move to the undisambiguated title. 162 etc. (talk) 21:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it is justified, they have a long history in African-American culture [1]. We should really work to expand the circuit party article and reclaim the term. No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Per Circuit party, these events were typically attended by white gay men. The article does not mention African-Americans, nor does it mention the attendees wearing white clothing. This citation from The Guardian appears to refer to a different type of white party. 162 etc. (talk) 21:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • The Guardian article specifically references "Black communities in the US" and Black culture. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

      That's correct. I'm referring to the Circuit party article, the current primary topic, which makes no mention of either. 162 etc. (talk) 17:19, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment White Party, a minor political party is Azerbaijan, is unlikely to be the primary topic for the capitalized title. 162 etc. (talk) 21:57, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • White Party was formerly about circuit parties before it was redirected to Circuit party. No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Note the WP:DIFFCAPS. This article is unrelated to circuit parties. 162 etc. (talk) 21:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Sean Combs' parties Searching, I see they are referred to by various "names" and sometimes as just party/parties held by Combs/Diddy. Our article for him is titled "Sean Combs". White is just a theme, so no need to cap white party in prose or freak off either. While W|white party is a redirect to circuit party, that article does not mention white party. When we work out what title to use here, we probably need to tidy up a couple of things. Cinderella157 (talk) 09:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article refers to a specific set of parties, clearly defined and described in the references. No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose as per ModernDayTrilobite, this article refers to a specific series of parties that occurred from 1997 to 2009. When I created the article I considered other titles such as Sean Comb's White Parties (sounds too commercial) and White Parties of Sean Combs (too specific?) The 'freak off' parties referred to in the indictments [2] are a different set of events. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Relisting for clearer consensus. BD2412 T 18:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per COMMONNAME and NATURAL.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have heard many people talk about Diddy Parties but no one about "White Parties" CavsFan45 (talk) 01:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]