Talk:Point and click

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The result of the move request was: not moved. DrKiernan (talk) 13:46, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Point and click → Point-and-click – Request made 9 May 2012 by 82.171.13.139 using template:movenotice. Reason given by 82.171.13.139 is "The whole article just 'point-and-click', except the title that says 'Point and click'. That's why I suggest the article should be renamed to "Point-and-click". " -- PBS (talk) 12:18, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The whole article just "point-and-click", except the title that says "Point and click". That's why I suggest the article should be renamed to "Point-and-click". --82.171.13.139 (talk) 19:26, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure; since sources use both , we should first establish which is the WP:COMMONNAME. On the other hand other related Wikipedia articles use (Double-click, Right-click) word-and-word titles (but not all), so we should study if there is a common pattern. Diego (talk) 11:03, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. I didn't mean to use "That's why" in my first post. Anyways, searching for "point and click" (without the hyphens) in on-line English dictionaries gives me "point-and-click" everywhere. See for example wiktionary.org, merriam-webster.com, oxforddictionaries.com, collinsdictionary.com and reference.com. Also, searching for +"point and click" via Google gives me 13.1 million hits; +"point-and-click" 1.63 billion (short scale). --82.171.13.139 (talk) 18:22, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded as per nom.  Mr.choppers | ✎  05:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

From archived Wikipedia:Requested moves#Technical requests, December 2011:

• Drag-and-drop → Drag and drop – Change from adjective to noun form Pnm (talk) 14:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Point-and-click → Point and click – Change from adjective to noun form Pnm (talk) 14:26, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this was correct, per WP:NOUN: Nouns and noun phrases are normally preferred over titles using other parts of speech; such a title can be the subject of the first sentence. Examples demonstrating my understanding of the distinction:

• Point and click is an action of a computer user. (Point and click is a noun).
• The point-and-click user interface generally superseded the mouse-free command-line interface. (point-and-click is an adjective; user interface is the noun)

The article should be updated for correct use of "Point and click" and "point-and-click." – Wbm1058 (talk) 02:35, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per WP:HYPHEN (corollary of #3). Using the hyphens as part of a compound modifier is appropriate (i.e., when they are used like an adjective — e.g. in "point-and-click interfaces") but the hyphens are not normally used with nouns (and titles should be nouns as noted above). The dictionary citations given above are for the adjectives, not the nouns. —  AjaxSmack  05:10, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per WP:HYPHEN and normal English punctuation. The hyphens are used in the adjective form; not needed in the noun form. Dicklyon (talk) 01:49, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per WP:NOUN and WP:HYPHEN. The title should be a noun phrase if possible, and the phrase "point and click" has no hyphens when used as a noun. WP:COMMONNAME makes no mentions of punctuation; I don't think it should trump Wikipedia hyphen style. – Pnm (talk) 03:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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