Talk:Miranda Esmonde-White

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A fact from Miranda Esmonde-White appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 October 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that former ballerina Miranda Esmonde-White claims that people can practice "aging backwards" through eccentric exercise? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2018/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Miranda Esmonde-White.

To-do list for Miranda Esmonde-White: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2015-12-13 Here are some tasks awaiting attention: Geographical coordinates : GPS needs to be added Infobox : Infobox needs current open license photo Map : GPS needs to be added Photo : Needs one or more photos Update : books and DVDs in bibliography need Wikification Wikify : books and DVDs in bibliography need Wikification Priority 3

Category:Exercise and fitness writers Category:Quality of life Category:Determinants of health

A previous editor/author/contributor suggested/stated that Ms. Esmonde-White was born in 1941 (see infobox), but a Canadian newspaper article showed her age as 57 in 2007 (8 years ago), which would put her birth year in 1950 (or 1949). 23:44, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Can we compare the relative benefits of eccentric exercise (as in Esmonde-White's Essentrics) with walking - for seniors and other groups: puts walkers on their feet, keeps the walkers happy, maintains independence, improves balance, and isn't limiting in time, space, or financial accessibility?^[1] MaynardClark (talk) 17:17, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

One comparison could be through a table comparing costs and benefits of various anti-aging interventions. We may think of one-to-one comparisons (e.g. walking v. ESSENTRICS, or walking v. yard work), but a table could provide one-to-may comparisons. MaynardClark (talk) 18:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The role of exercise (a) for coping and (b) as direct therapy has been studied. Stress is hypothesised to be a major influence in human health. There is a relationship between experience of chronic stress and negative health outcomes.^[2] There are two ways that this relationship is explained, through both direct and indirect effects of chronic stress on health outcomes.

How individuals respond to stresses can influence their health status. Individuals may often respond to chronic stress by developing coping behaviours; some may positively influence health, and others may negatively influence it - depending on whether or not excessive consumption accompanies the coping adaptations.^[3] MaynardClark (talk) 18:08, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

One key point in Esmonde-White's professional biography is her therapeutic work with working athletes, and injured athletes. MaynardClark (talk) 02:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MaynardClark: If so, can you list which athletes? It would really have to be some big names to warrant this meeting the scope. I notice on her website that she lists eleven sports that she has helped athletes from, and not one of them relates to the sport of athletics. It looks like a very tenuous connection to me. SFB 19:09, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A teacher at my gym mentioned the Montreal Canadiens. I'll see if I can find any source for that. -SusanLesch (talk) 12:52, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@MaynardClark: and @Sillyfolkboy: That was easy. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:05, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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This brief item is like an advertising brochure written by the woman herself, not an encyclopedic article. It needs work ---

• Incorporate more biographical information (childhood & parents; how/why did she become a ballerina; what was her ballet career like; how/why did she decide to switch from dance to exercise).

• Incorporate more about her exercise career (what education did she seek in order to become an anatomy/physiology/kinesiology expert; how/why did she develop a branded exercise routine; how is her exercise philosophy received by the physical therapy community - pluses and/or negatives).

• Incorporate information about her private life (marriage/s; children; residence; other interests).

Remember to use reliable, non-commercial sources for the data; most of the references already used are commercial sites that sell her books and videos. This is a WP violation.

Thank you for your attention, Wordreader (talk) 17:49, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

When such information was included in earlier versions, it was removed by Wikipedians who were, at that time, campaigning against the article because of its kinship with the PBS fundraisers. To get that hard-found information (as I recall), merely look at earlier version sof this article.

To list her books and to cite booksellers is hardly a COI.

However, I do honestly think that calling such a pared-down article like this 'spammy' is profoundly insulting to the work of Miranda Esmonde-White/ MaynardClark (talk) 04:35, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MaynardClark, I removed the spam flag and agree with you. We have about three days left to expand this according to DYK rules. -SusanLesch (talk) 12:55, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Love it! MaynardClark (talk) 00:10, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]