Talk:Keshi (singer)

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Disambiguate. A WP:BARTENDERy move to Keshigomu for the article presently at Keshi, and a dab base page (it's a three-way, with Keshi (demon) on it too). If anyone then wants to open an RM about which is the primary topic, feel free. asilvering (talk) 00:37, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keshi (singer) → Keshi
• Keshi → ?

– The singer is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In the past year, the singer has received a monthly average of 13,607 views, while the eraser has received 654 views. [1] A significant number of views for Keshi also navigate to the page for the singer.[2] मल्ल (talk) 17:58, 9 September 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 14:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 18:14, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment This nomination needs to include a proposed name for the article currently at Keshi. Category:Keshi would also be affected. 162 etc. (talk) 19:31, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for bringing that up, I think Keshi (stationery) or Keshi (eraser) could be good titles for the article. Edit: Per discussion below, I think Keshigomu or Keshi (toy) would be a better title instead. मल्ल (talk) 20:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. No primary topic here by long-term significance. Keshi should probably be moved to Keshi (toy) and a dabpage created at the basename. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support, this article is more property sourced than the eraser article, and thus takes precedence over it and other Keshi related articles per notability.

𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 00:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Notability is a threshold. Once notability of two topics have been established, sourcing doesn't have anything to do with determining a primary topic between them. Dekimasuよ! 02:33, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Relisting early so the RM banner spends enough time on the Keshi article. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 14:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Partial support, at least move Keshi the eraser and create a DAB basepage per Necrothesp. Following the lead presently at Keshi, it seems like Keshi (eraser) or Keshi (stationery) would both be suitable. If I'm reading the article correctly, it seems Keshi (toy) is a more specific usecase of the subject as whole, but I'm not terribly familiar (and not opposed to that disambiguator either). Bobby Cohn (talk) 13:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - The singer appears to have overtaken the product in terms of pageviews since the article was first published in 2020. As for the destination for Keshi, I'm conflicted. One one hand, the word for "Eraser" probably meets WP:PT2, while the toy is most likely going to meet WP:PT1. As the article seems to focus on the toy and doesn't go into much history of the word's usage before that, I will say Keshi (toy) seems like the best choice, we might even be able to call it a different topic from an eraser, given how different it is. I find Keshi (eraser) might be incorrect as modern Keshi may be made using materials that aren't good for erasing (and as a collectible, its use as such would be unlikely anyways), and as for (stationery), I find that less desirable as a Keshi is not a form of stationery, which may be confusing. ASUKITE 15:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - if this article gets moved to Keshi, can I suggest that the eraser Keshi be moved to Keshigomu? I think that might fit. Limmidy (talk) 02:26, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Keshigomu seems to be good WP:NATDIS. SilverLocust 💬 07:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose – Even though the singer is characterized with primary topic, in this case I don't think there is a satisfactory disambiguator for the eraser. Svartner (talk) 07:43, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Even with WP:IAR in mind, I don't think lack of a readily apparent disambiguator is a reason to not move a primary topic. Above, I argued that I am not sure about primary and that a DAB page would be best. Your argument appears to acknowledge the nominator's primary topic argument but disagrees with the move, if I'm reading it correctly? Bobby Cohn (talk) 20:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support - the singer is the primary topic. PuppyMonkey (talk) 20:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]