Talk:Harry Martinson

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Are there any sources telling Harry Martinson was arrested in Malmö when he was 21, as the article puts it?

Wasn't it in Lund, 11 June 1921, when he was 17?

Here below, a passage from Populär historia 5/2007, from an article about vagrancy in Sweden, written by Karl-Olof Andersson, the author of Harry Martinson – naturens, havens och rymdens diktare; he is citing an interrogation protocol (by the public prosecutor, "stadsfiskalen", of Lund):

Lördagen den 11 juni 1921 anhöll extra detektivkonstapeln Carl Persson i Lundagård i Lund en ung man för lösdriveri och förde honom till stadsfiskalen för förhör. Enligt det till förhörsprotokollet fogade signalementet var ynglingen 175 centimeter lång, hade mörkblont hår och blå ögon. Näsan var »vågig», munnen »ordinär», pannan »låg» och ansiktsformen »oval». Som yrke uppgav den anhållne jungman, och som kyrkskrivningsort Haga församling i Göteborg. Han var född i Jämshögs församling i Blekinge den 6 maj 1904 och var vid gripandet följaktligen bara 17 år. Hans namn var Harry Edmund Martinson. I förhörsprotokollet skriver stadsfiskalen: »Vid hållet förhör har Martinson erkänt, att han den 10 och 11 dennes vistats här i staden och uppehållit sig genom att bettla mat och penningar samt berättat följande: Sedan oktober månad 1920 har han med undantag för en och annan dag saknat sysselsättning och gående från ort till ort i Sverige och Norge livnärt sig huvudsakligen genom bettleri. Han har på varje ort sökt arbete, dock utan att kunna erhålla sådant. I saknad av bostad och medel brukade han tillbringa nätterna i ladugårdar och halmstackar.»

Hirvempi (talk) 09:59, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article puts it: "From 1929 to 1940, he was married to Moa Martinson, whom he met through a Stockholm anarchist newspaper Brand."

Are there any sources, beyond that French article? Please verify, someone!

It is usually said that they met through a Gothenburg syndicalist newspaper, Arbetare-Kuriren.

Both of them wrote articles for both of the newspapers.

Hirvempi (talk) 10:04, 5 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I added Martinson's Find-a-Grave entry which contains a photo. Can this be transferred to the main biography Section? I don't know the details of how that would work. -- Michael David 20:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The link can be added in the section, but not the photo. Images need to be uploaded (Special:Upload) with a free license. / Fred-Chess 22:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 16:38, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The source that is indicated by Martinsen's suicide does not in fact mention any such thing. The text merely reads "He died at his home in Gnesta February 11, 1978." Does anyone have another source? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.74.92.208 (talk) 17:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the one who added that reference, and I can't have been paying much attention when I did, because not only did I miss the fact that his death wasn't connected to his earlier suicide attempt, I didn't notice that the reference I found was a French translation of material that was already available in English from the "External links" section. It looks like a fair number of sources confuse his unsuccessful suicide attempt with his later death. For the moment, I'm going to change the article to match the source, but I agree that it would be nice to have a better source for the material - not to mention that it would be nice to have better sourcing for the rest of the article. — Gavia immer (talk) 18:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have now discovered this 2010 note AFTER adding more material based on the French Bibliomonde article.

Swedish WP has him committing "harakiri" with the scissors. Then it mentions the Karolinska University Hospital. My Swedish is not good enough to sort out any degree of correlation between the two.

I am going to dissociate the attempt and the death in the article.

And Bibliomonde does say he died at home, not at the hospital.

Varlaam (talk) 15:21, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the source of the confusion is that the actual cause of death was, out of respect for his family, not publicly revealed until 2000 when Lars Gyllensten (like Martinson also a member of the Swedish Academy) wrote about it in detail in his memoirs Minnen, bara minnen ("Memories, only memories"). Gyllensten received permission from Martinson's daughters to write about it. The accepted/common version (in fact, the only one I've heard) in Sweden is that Martinson did indeed commit suicide and died at Karolinska Hospital. (It has only been called Karolinska University Hospital since 2004, following a merger.) He slit his abdomen with a pair of scissors while in a psychiatric ward. He didn't die immediately, but the wounds were too grave. Here's a short Google-translateable interview with Gyllensten, published in Aftonbladet 2000-08-31.

-- Andersju (talk) 15:05, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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