Talk:Evil Queen (Disney)

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On 22 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Evil Queen (Disney character). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

--Niemti (talk) 07:58, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I have never heard of the name Queen Grimhilde

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Reviewer: Zanimum (talk · contribs) 21:32, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look. -- Zanimum (talk) 21:32, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have not reviewed the references yet. They're always last. There's a lot of cleaning up that'll need to be done.

(Nominator's note: OK, please give me some time. I'm not the one who developed this article, I just came across and felt that it was quite solid. I'll try and see if I can do anything with it. ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 07:26, 13 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Infobox

• What's the Cell Block Tango?

Where is it?Forbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Olivia Wilde's portraits aren't mentioned in the article proper; infoboxes are meant as summaries of the article, not replacements.
• Audley's audiobook appearance should be mentioned in Merchandise.
• Has Disney officially said that their Original Movie should be considered canonical? Evvie's inclusion is suspect. If she had slipped a ring on Hades in House of Mouse, would you list the Lord of the Head as her husband?

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

• Was she a queen before marrying the king? That's what your wording implies. I'd prefer "A mysterious and icily beautiful woman has gained her royal position by marrying a widowed king"

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Are there any readily accessible sources about the role of stepparents in literature? I know there are multiple RS on this common narrative.
• I think it would be worth highlighting in a sentence or two any major narrative changes for the Queen.
• "Her beauty is shrouded in ugliness and age; presumably, she has an ability to change back.[6]"

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• While you're citing a 2005 book as to the Queen truly dying, it would be good to find publication information for the 1936 novelization as well.

Conception, design and portrayal

• "Notably, the Queen was the first character to ever speak in an animated film." You really should say "in an animated feature film", as it's possible people might not know the chronology.

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Abandoned concepts

• "(featured in the film[30])" move this ref outside the parahenthesis

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• "it is written in story notes" this whole segment can make its own sentence, it seems a little long for a fragment.

 DoneI guess - I don't see it at all.Forbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• "the torturers (described as "the Nubians")." --> "the torturers, described as "the Nubians"."

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• The end of the second paragraph is uncited. Is it from 9?

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Attractions and shows

• "Snow White - An Enchanting Musical": en dash needed

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• "practically stars" weasel words

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Disneyland rides/at various parks

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• rambly over all

• One Man's Dream: is it an interactive gallery or a show?

An interactive gallery, really.Forbidden User (talk) 18:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Film and television

• "The were also" needs moving
• References inside brackets.

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Video games

• "The were also"

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Passing Cultural impact and Reception.

Influence

• The Enchanted info should be a paragraph to itself. Move some of it up to the first paragraph, or create three paragraphs.

Could you please clarify this a bit?Forbidden User (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Parodies

• What about "?The Simpsons episode "Four Great Women and a Manicure" (2009),"?

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Check the Simpsons episode page, and see whether any of the articles they use have reference to this. It would be preferable to have a reference here.

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Both of the above could be applied to Family Guy, too.

 DoneForbidden User (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Year of the Muppet comic book?

It's stated on cover images of the book that it is 2010.Forbidden User (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Passing See also.

Books and comics, Merchandise, References remaining. -- Zanimum (talk) 18:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Verification issue with few sources that need Archive.org archives.

1. http://d23.disney.go.com/news/2012/12/d23s-dateline-disney-1935-evil-queen/ - Source 16

Y Archive url added. ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 06:52, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1. http://disney.go.com/vault/archives/villains/queen/queen.html - Source 15

Y Archive url added. ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 06:53, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.disney.dwarfs_goo - Source 74 - Dead since 2014-06-22

Y Archive url added. ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 06:55, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Just noting for the reviewer and nominator. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:44, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since all the reviewer's comments have been addressed, I'll pass this article. Wizardman 02:43, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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--SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 10:25, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

--SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 13:08, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Solved with this edit ALittleQuenhi (talk to me) 03:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One must wonder about the mirror its power and its role. Where did Grimhilde get it from and if someone gave it to her - who and with what intent? It is with reason it has been said that it just is not true that the sweet teen Snow white should be more fair than the queen. Also: can there at all be anyone objectively the most fair of all? Does the mirror follow some agenda of its own - or of someone else? Of great interest in this context is that the queen seems to have all but abdicated her role as regent. Then who does rule the kingdom? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.198.216.242 (talk) 09:12, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I can't exactly put my finger on it, but this whole article feels sloppy - both poorly written and with poorly organized info across the sections. Someone with more skill than I have should do a clean up re-write. 2600:1700:5EC3:5010:DDD1:B5BA:7DAF:A7BB (talk) 00:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I have added the overly detailed template. There is an excessive level of detail here, including a lot of references to some dubious sources (Amazon?). It needs a drastic haircut. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 18:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 00:22, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Evil Queen (Disney) → Evil Queen (Disney character)
• Pete (Disney) → Pete (Disney character)
• Pluto (Disney) → Pluto (Disney character)

– To be WP:CONSISTENT with other Disney characters. Shwcz (talk) 15:37, 22 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:23, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Though the nom mentions consistency, I see no consistency among other Disney characters. Some are titled with (Disney) (e.g. Genie (Disney)), some are titled (Disney character) (e.g. Megara (Disney character)), others are titled by the film (e.g. Belle (Beauty and the Beast)). Is there a guideline for these? Most characters are titled with either (Disney) or (film name). Natg 19 (talk) 23:26, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe there should be a discussion about this at WikiProject Disney. I honestly think that it should just be (character) and if further disambiguation is needed (Disney character) ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 12:08, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per Natg. Doesn't appear to be any consistent format as of yet. --Spekkios (talk) 00:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support for Evil Queen and Pluto move to be WP:CONSISTENT. We as a group at WikiProject Disney have agreed to use this flowchart for the title of Disney characters. Looking at the disambiguation page Pete, it seems that Pete can be disambiguated as just (character).

― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 11:53, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Support all per nom. This is the road to CONSISTENT. The name "Pete" is used for a number of characters, so the consistent solution of (Disney character) removes any doubt. -- Netoholic @ 01:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Disambiguation with “Disney character” rather than “Disney” should only be used when “Disney” alone is insufficient disambiguation because there are other Disney uses of the name in question per WP:D and WP:CONCISE. Disambiguating with “Disney character” implies there are other such uses covered in WP, which is fine, but only when that’s actually the case. In other words, any name that is disambiguated with “Disney character” should be done only when that name disambiguated with just “Disney” is a dab page or a PRIMARY use of that name when disambiguated with just Disney. —-В²C ☎ 05:25, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Isn't the "Pete" of Pete's Dragon also a Disney character? Dekimasuよ! 06:09, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Pete (Disney) should really be at Pete (Mickey Mouse) instead to avoid potential confusion with the title character of Pete's Dragon (1977 film). (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:04, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Including how Gadot was cast for the prequel and sequel, then left, and the prequel (which was to be about the Evil Queen specifically) was canceled. Among other information (interviews and so on would come handy). 5.173.33.63 (talk) 06:10, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please answer 98.97.14.115 (talk) 20:45, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Moved here as most are just dead (and some may be not-Disney), but their titles may be used to find better links if anyone bothered:

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^[18] 5.173.42.7 (talk) 07:46, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I removed:

Early on into the project that would become the mostly live-action film Enchanted (2007), it was rumored to be a (yet untitled) direct-to-video animated sequel to Disney's Snow White in which the character that would become Queen Narissa in Enchanted was the evil Queen's sister who would kidnap six of the dwarfs to lure Snow White, the Prince, and their 13-year-old daughter Rose aided by Dopey, into a trap.^[1]

Since even this private website talks about rumors.

However, these rumors are oddly plausible, since Enchaned featured the Evil Queen-like Narissa in similar role while the rumor here talks about "Noriss" which may be as the source overheard it. But I had trouble trying finding anything elsewhere (besides these Heritage sketches, remaining in the article). 5.173.42.7 (talk) 19:21, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]