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Why separate article

The reason for an article separate from Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Utrecht is that the original archdiocese was suppressed in 1580. The modern archdiocese was erected in 1853. They share the same name and the same patrimony but are different corporate entities with a gap of about 270 years between them. –BoBoMisiu (talk) 20:07, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of bishops

Relevant discussion at

→ Talk:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Utrecht#Lists of bishops
→ Talk:Bishopric of Utrecht#Lists of bishops

I think that this article, as well as the related articles found in the relevant discussion box above, can be improved by:

moving all the lists of bishops during the period before the suppression of the original archdiocese into either Archdiocese of Utrecht (695–1580) article or List of bishops and archbishops of Utrecht (695–1580) or List of bishops and archbishops of Utrecht, as is done in the corresponding article in the Dutch Wikipedia
The Bishopric of Utrecht existed from 1024 to 1528. The only those bishops who were in the ecclesial office between 1024 and 1528 were also in the contemporaneous secular office of prince ruling over secular feudal estates. This should either be noted in a list of bishops or be contained in a separate List of prince-bishops and prince-archbishops of Utrecht.

Please comment in Talk:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Utrecht#Lists of bishops to centralize the discussion.

–BoBoMisiu (talk) 20:25, 8 July 2014 (UTC); modified 20:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC) and 20:40, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. An unopposed proposal, moved per WP:RMNOMIN. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:03, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Archdiocese of Utrecht (695–1580) → Diocese of Utrecht (695–1580) – This article has been moved more than once, so it is apparently controversial. It was a diocese for almost its entire history, so that is the better title. Srnec (talk) 01:06, 16 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 02:59, 23 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 05:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 22:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support. I don't really have strong feelings here. I see your point, and normally would concede. But I am not sure it doesn't run foul of any policy or cause trouble for any lists, and that it might be reverted back. I was waiting to see what other opinions might emerge here before making up my mind. And might yet change it. But if you want my two cents for now, I think it makes sense. Walrasiad (talk) 09:31, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: For more discussion Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 05:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Netherlands has been notified of this discussion. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 05:29, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.