Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BeForU (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. A clear consensus to Keep this article. But please remember to remain civil in deletion discussions, both towards other participants and towards the nominator (and your poor closer). We all have the same goal, having the best content on Wikipedia, we just differ on the interpretation of what articles qualify for that. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BeForU

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An old article that fails a "before" test.

I probably would've nominated this for PROD if it hadn't gone through an AfD over 14 years ago, shortly after the band disbanded. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:56, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, and Japan. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:56, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Oricon shows one of their singles had charted in the past: https://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/269713/products/ lullabying (talk) 04:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I am not sure what the deletion rationale is here. The keep comments by Nihonjoe in the last deletion discussion were very clear: "they more than meet WP:BAND (specifically, they meet #2 (charted single or album), #5 (2+ major label albums), and #10 (performed music for a work of media that is notable: DDR is clearly very notable))". Sources to back this up were included in the previous discussion, and notability is not temporary. Here is a more recent article in English, and for #10, they also performed a theme song for the anime adaptation of Major (manga). Dekimasuよ! 04:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dekimasu I know notability is permanent, but consensus of whether or not someone/something is notable has changed in the past; that's why I nominated the article. Doing a WP:BEFORE search can prove difficult if the subject is outside of the anglosphere, thanks to the search engines algorithm severely preferring English websites even when settings are changed. So before someone points out "AfD isn't cleanup," I know that; I was genuinely unsure as to whether sources existed. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 12:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@I dream of horses: You didn't even need to do a search as my comments on the last discussion had links for everything at that time. This is just a poorly-thought-out nomination. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:27, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nihonjoe *Facepalm* You have a point for this specific article. My apologies. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 02:47, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Lullabying and Dekimasu. Article obviously meets WP:BASIC at least. Awful nomination. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:24, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Awful nomination" was pretty unnecessary if you ask me. C F A 💬 23:12, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per Lullabying and Dekimasu. Ms. Djalim's words are harsh but true. Microplastic Consumer (talk) 22:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep same opinion --ProudWatermelon (talk) 05:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per my comments on the first nom for BeForU. Not sure why this was even nominated as notability, once clearly established, cannot be revoked (unless the reasons of that notability are shown to be invalid in some way, which is not the case here). It's been clearly established in this case. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:26, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Lullabying and Dekimasu. Also, agree with Nihonjoe re: previous discussion. DCsansei (talk) 16:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.