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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 08:07, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- A. Lorne Weil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
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I came across this via an WP:A7 speedy deletion but Weil's association with Scientific Games Corporation is just enough to where he would squeak by speedy deletion standards. A search doesn't really show where Weil is really independently notable outside of the company and I don't think that a redirect would really be appropriate in this instance since he isn't really mentioned in the article aside from a brief mention in the controversy section. If anyone can find enough sourcing to warrant him meriting an article I'm open to the idea of withdrawing this, but all of the sources I can find mention him predominantly or solely in relation to the company. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 12:19, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- He is somewhat known for trading in the company's stock, but I don't know that this would really be enough to warrant a page. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 12:20, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Delete Yeah, I don't think he independently has contributed enough to society to warrant inclusion. Basically the entirety of the article is just describing where he worked, where he went to school, etc. Being a CEO isn't notable in and of itself, or else we'd need a hell of a lot more articles on wiki, so many that it would drown out all other BLPs. The company itself also isn't that big, it's only notable for the controversy and its numerous subsidiaries in my opinion. Weil just doesn't meet that merit. The controversy section was only covered in one news source, I just don't think it's enough.--Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 15:21, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:15, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
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Keep I noticed that you have also caused Luke Weil's bio entry to have a speedy delete which begs to ask what your real intention is here. Luke Weil has had even more media attention than his father in recent history and warrants a bio entry per wikipedia's guidelines. Lorne Weil is very notable for more than just trading SG stock. He's also mentioned in many other places since SG is a company on the billion dollar trading level such as http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/scientific-games-replaces-ceo-after-completing-15-billion-wms-purchase as one example of notable reference of importance in history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evershawn (talk • contribs) 03:58, 12 April 2015 — Evershawn (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Comment "real intentions" what does that even mean? Also, notability is not cascading, and amount of money traded =/= notability. Just because his company trades in lots of cash doesn't make it inherently notable, and it certainly doesn't make HIM notable.--Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 15:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- I actually wasn't the one who nominated the article for Luke Weil for speedy deletion, Shibbolethink was. However regardless of who nominated an article for deletion please assume WP:GOODFAITH. Saying that someone nominated something for deletion based on bad intentions is really not a good idea. Not only can it be seen as a personal attack, but it frequently has the opposite effect since it almost immediately decreases the credibility of the accuser and puts incoming editors on the defensive. Also Shibbolethink is correct in that notability is not inherited. What you need here are sources that discuss Weil in-depth and independently of the company. A company can be notable, but this does not mean that its CEOs will be notable as well. It certainly makes it more likely, but it's never a guarantee. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 10:01, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete, no indication that Weil is independently notable. The best reference is a blog post; most others are either not the kinds of reliable third-party coverage a biography of a living person should be based on or they don't discuss Weil in any detail. Huon (talk) 21:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete, after moving the content about his criminal activities wholesale to Scientific Games Corporation. –Be..anyone (talk) 11:34, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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