Talk:App Store (Apple)
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Preliminary move discussion
editThis isn't a formal move request; I'm gauging consensus first. Others are free to change this section heading and rewrite my initial comment if they feel a proper, neutrally-worded move request is appropriate (but please ping me afterwards).
Wikipedia is case-sensitive. So App Store and App store are two separate pages.
App Store redirects here. Why? That makes no sense whatsoever to me. Please see the November 13, 2020 move request in this talk page's header for more. If people type App store
or app store
in the search bar, they'll go to the generic article. If they go out of their way to capitalize it properly like App Store
, they'll be taken here. Seems reasonable.
So why not just move this page to App Store, and avoid the redirect? It would also allow us to change the hatnote from:
To:
See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(capitalization)#Page_names_that_differ_only_by_capitalization DFlhb (talk) 18:12, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note that the current title is inaccurate, since this isn't just the iOS and iPadOS App Store, it's also the tvOS store, and the watchOS store (all covered here), and soon the xrOS store. So I don't know why we insist on parenthetical disambiguation when a hatnote here, and a hatnote at App store, would do the trick just fine. DFlhb (talk) 07:53, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
- I think a move to App Store, as the primary topic of the capitalised title, would be appropriate. Any confusion for those looking for an app store could be resolved by hatnotes. If a parenthetical disambiguator is deemed necessary, I would think App Store (mobile) would work, as it contains mobile apps. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 03:52, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 15 September 2023
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved to App Store (Apple) as the preferred title of most participants in the discussion below (closed by non-admin page mover) estar8806 (talk) ★ 23:52, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
App Store (iOS/iPadOS) → ? – The article "App Store (tvOS)" has been merged into this article and does not reflect its article name. Some say "(iOS/iPadOS)" should be removed. Parham wiki (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Edward-Woodrow • talk 14:21, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
- Move to App Store (Apple) Rreagan007 (talk) 00:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- Move to App Store with hatnote - as titles are case sensitive, most people who are explicitly typing "App Store" will be looking for this one, and the redirect already points to this article. Remagoxer (talk) 03:17, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
- First choice App Store (Apple) with App Store redirecting to the conceptdab at app store. Second choice is App Store as primary topic per diffcaps. In other words, both Rreagan and Remagoxer have good ideas from my perspective. Red Slash 22:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Move to App Store (Apple), which solves the tvOS/watchOS/soon visionOS problem. I've gone back on my argument that if people type "App Store" capitalized, they want the Apple article; it's true only for desktop users. Mobile readers type the name in the app then pick the article from a list of search suggestions. They may not notice a small difference in capitalization, and not having "(Apple)" would reduce recognizability. They'd be forced to rely on the short description, which they may not notice, and which is in smaller font with lower contrast. (I just changed the short description; it was so long that the distinctive part, "for iOS and iPadOS", would have been cut off on many phones smaller than phablets). DFlhb (talk) 22:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
- Nice catch on the short description BTW Red Slash 20:27, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
Update
editThis (the charts of most installed and highest grossing apps) is very outdated. Can someone please update it? GamerKlim9716 (talk) 00:15, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also, what happened to the article that lists the most downloaded smartphone apps overall? I only see articles for each OS now. GamerKlim9716 (talk) 01:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 28 September 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Simplexity22 (talk) 17:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
App Store (Apple) → App Store – WP:DIFFCAPS and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The generic concept is called an app store, not an App Store. There is only one notable app store called the "App Store"; the other major app stores are called Google Play, Amazon Appstore, Microsoft Store, and Galaxy Store. (Amazon Appstore is a partial title match.) Note that there is a separate article for the Mac App Store, which is a subtopic of this article and not a contender for the primary topic. InfiniteNexus (talk) 04:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. This is such a generic name that it should stay redirecting to the primary topic which is App store. Gonnym (talk) 12:00, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Even with WP:DIFFCAPS? InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- I give the least possible weight to that as I know humans aren't machines and don't care about capitalization. Gonnym (talk) 13:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- But why would anyone use a capitalized letter when they don't explicitly want to land on Apple's App Store? Maxeto0910 (talk) 18:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I give the least possible weight to that as I know humans aren't machines and don't care about capitalization. Gonnym (talk) 13:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Even with WP:DIFFCAPS? InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Not WP:RECOGNIZABLE as the Apple App Store without the disambiguation. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose the generic concept of an app store is the primary topic, regardless of capitalization. Walsh90210 (talk) 22:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Support: The capitalized "A" should make it obvious. The vast majority of people would type in lowercase and land on the general app store article. Only those who deliberately use the proper "App Store" spelling with a capitalized "A" would land on Apple's App Store. Those who search for Apple's App Store and nonetheless type in lowercase would have a disambiguation hatnote, just like it is right now. However, right now you land on the article about app stores in general even when you use the proper spelling of the Apple App Store, which is just weird. Maxeto0910 (talk) 08:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as the name is too generic. HarukaAmaranth 13:12, 6 October 2024 (UTC)