Talk:Al-Biruni

Latest comment: 1 day ago by HistoryofIran in topic Origin could be Turkic or Iranian


Not iranian

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i don not why they call biruni iranian, he is a turk, written books in arabic nothing to do with Iran.its shamfull and a big lie Irani2024 (talk) 17:58, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

The name section says his name came from a persian word birun while its totaly a big scandal becasue bituni is the city he was born in him not outskirt. Irani2024 (talk) 19:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Because its based on WP:RS, unlike your claims. Though it's clear that you don't care about WP:RS, and that despite being named "Irani"2024, you're clearly not one [1]. Have you edited here before? HistoryofIran (talk) 13:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
There is a lot of damaging revisionism of descriptors of historical 'Persian' figures; this being one of them Onpoint12 (talk) 06:24, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

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There has been an error in the origin of Al Biruni's name. His name originated from the word 'burun', which means nose. Hence his facial feature was the cause of speculation among his contemporaries. Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).</ref> Usgoblin (talk) 05:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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This section "Al-Biruni's name is derived from the Persian word bērūn or bīrūn ("outskirts"), as he was born in an outlying district of Kath, the capital of the Afrighid kingdom of Khwarazm.' should be changed to 'His name originated from the word 'burun', which means nose, because he had a very big nose. Hence his facial feature was the cause of speculation among his contemporaries.' [1] Usgoblin (talk) 05:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Note: Edit probably should be made, but I have to go soon. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 07:08, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Done ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 10:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Undone: This request has been undone. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 11:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I don't think that source looks good enough William M. Connolley (talk) 11:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wait, really? I don't see how this is user-generated or potentially biased. (Probably because I speak none of the languages the site is available in, forcing me to use google translate to verify.) ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 11:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm sorry. I couldn't find a source in English. All the available sources are in Russian. Usgoblin (talk) 17:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sources in foreign languages usually aren't an issue at all. They don't need to be English (although encouraged). ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:08, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
The language isn't the problem, that page's author is anonymous and it cites no source for that claim. Hi! (talk) 23:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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this person ‘s background is not from actual Iran , when it’s written iranian the reader can misunderstand the origin of him. he was an uzbekistani from uzbekistan or precisely Afghanistan . thanks for your attention and efforts to spread correct information. change his background from iranian to uzbekistani/Afghanistani please. میلاد مولایی (talk) 20:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

WP:RS contradicts you. Wikipedia is a not a place for revisionism. Please also see [2]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would agree with the original comment that 'Iranian' is confusing for a lead paragraph given that its most obvious meaning correlates to the modern nation state. 'Persian' is the clearest term to use, as attested to in multiple sources. It appears consensus is lacking. Onpoint12 (talk) 06:27, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Consensus is not lacking [3]. And scholars routinely use "Iranian", nothing confusing about it. HistoryofIran (talk) 11:15, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Origin could be Turkic or Iranian

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If some pro-Iranians want to push the agenda that he was of Iranian origin, then we should also mention that he was probably of Turkic origin too. After all, there is evidence for both cases. Wikimicky1 (talk) 04:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

If you think these so called "pro-Iranian" users that want to push an "agenda" exists, by all means, report them to WP:ANI. If not, then please it keep to yourself (WP:ASPERSIONS/WP:NPA/WP:SOAPBOX). Also, WP:RS and the WP:CONSENSUS that was based on it is heavily against you [4]. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would report a case if necessary. For now it is reasonable to assume you are editing in good faith, just like myself. I do not see a consensus against him possibly being of Turkic origin too. Again, if there are claims that he was of Iranian origin then there are also claims that he was of Turkic origin. If you want to mention him being Iranian then it is only fair that you also include that he was Turkic. Wikimicky1 (talk) 06:29, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
As you were just told, WP:RS and the WP:CONSENSUS that was based on it is heavily against you [5]. We base our info on WP:RS, not our own personal opinion. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:29, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply