Talk:CM Punk

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Chris Brown

CM Punk and Chris Brown had a very public Twitter fued. There is no mention of it on Wikipedia.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/chris-brown-cm-punk-feud-continues-wrestler-video-response-chris-brown-isn-man-article-1.1026766

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/chris-brown-cm-punk-feud-continues-wrestler-video-response-chris-brown-isn-man-article-1.1026766

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-22/entertainment/chi-cm-punk-twitter-war-chris-brown-video-20120221_1_twitter-feud-twitter-war-chris-brown

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-02-23/sports/bal-cm-punk-and-chris-brown-another-twitter-war-pitting-wwe-superstar-vs-celebrity-20120222_1_twitter-war-wwe-superstar-sheamus

Can we add a section on this fued? Wjserson (talk) 18:04, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply


Edit request on 19 June 2012

Adding his appearance on Jimmy Fallon (18th June 2012) and how it is his first appearance on any kind of talk show.


  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.

Edit request on 2 August 2012

The next week on Raw, Cm Punk claimed that he was not sorry for his actions, that The Rock had interrupted him & the show should end with him in the spotlight each night thus turning into a tweener. Later that night John Cena faced The Big Show to determine who would face Punk for his title at Summerslam. Punk attacked Cena & Big show thus resulting in a double disqualification & and he announced that there is no winner. But the new GM of Raw AJ Lee said Cm Punk ail face both Show & Cena at Summerslam. 69.70.160.2 (talk) 05:21, 2 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Mdann52 (talk) 08:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
I'll close this request pending a source and specification. FloBo A boat that can float! 09:14, 2 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

Wrestlers trained

The source is false. Punk did not train Pelle Primeau, Mitch Franklin/Grizzly Redwood, Bobby Dempsey or Derick Dempsey. They all joined the ROH school after Austin Aries took over as trainer. 72.197.18.6 (talk) 19:44, 10 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

tattoos

Punk has a skull of some sort or something on his chest. He also now has a skull tattoo with what appears as wings around it with a word an top. Im not sure exactly what it says but these 2 are missing from the tattoo section so if someone could add them. BlackDragon 00:27, 17 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 19 October 2012

"please change "On October 31, CM Punk strong-armed his way into a match with Del Rio at Survivor Series," to "On November 20, CM Punk strong-armed his way into a match with Del Rio at Survivor Series," because that is the correct date of the Survivor Series 2011". Theno1katzman (talk) 18:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC) CM Punk legendary WWE title reign began at the Survivor Series in 2011. Here is an article describing the play by play of the match.Reply

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/949508-wwe-survivor-series-results-updates-analysis-and-review-of-every-match/entry/151614-wwe-survivor-series-cm-punk-defeats-alberto-del-rio-wins-wwe-title

On March 20, 2011 the date and location of Survivor Series 2011 was revealed.

http://www.wrestlingnewsarena.com/2011/03/survivor-series-2011-date-location-revealed/

quote for the source 151 footnote leads to http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-10-31/results and has nothing to do with the Survivor Series.

Theno1katzman (talk) 18:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

  Not done - On October 31 Punk forced a title match out of Del Rio to be held at Survivor Series. Both events are repped by their respective sources. Papacha (talk) 01:37, 20 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Effectiveness of Moves

Under "In wrestling", we should put the effectiveness of moves based on where in a pinfall it would get them. For instance, very effective moves could be the roundhouse, Koji clutch, diving elbow drop, etc. It would also be useful to see how often he uses certain moves. Rope hung arm trap can openers are used almost never, while corner step up high knee followed by running bulldogs are seen almost always. It would be awesome to see this in other wrestler's pages, too. Please consider and respond. Thanks for reading.209.213.145.236 (talk) 21:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC) he has held the wwe champion for a yearReply

That would just equate to opinion, though, so it's not really possible. أنا أحبك (talk) 17:39, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Pescetarian

I can't see it in the article but he confirmed it here https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/185198024455241728 MaybeMaybeMaybe (talk) 20:30, 28 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Heel turn?

For Punk's "WWE Champion (2011-present)" section, should it be re-edited to "WWE Champion and Heel Turn (2011-present)" with Punk being a villain presently? Jedi Striker (talk) 05:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

We do not use wrestling jargon such as heel or face turns in headings. Considering he was only heel two two years ago anyways. STATic message me! 05:54, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
Also that section starts in mid-2011, so for a year of that Punk has been a face. Shall we have the header "WWE Champion and babyface and heel turn (2011-present)"? Probably best not. Tony2Times (talk) 13:15, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
Fair enough. But I've seen wrestling jargon used in Chris Jericho's headings. Jedi Striker (talk) 18:08, 28 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 8 January 2013 In the section WWE Champion (2011–2013)

Please change "Despite his injury, Punk became the longest reigning WWE Champion on December 5, when he hit 381 days, surpassing John Cena's 380 day reign." to "Despite his injury, Punk became the longest reigning WWE Champion of the modern era on December 5, when he hit 381 days, surpassing John Cena's 380 day reign because it is not true. CM Punk, of course, is the longest reigning WWE Champion, but of the modern era, i.e., for these 25 years. Therefore, I suggest that the information should be edited and changed to avoid any kind of confusion. TheABPunk 08:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I've corrected the article. NiciVampireHeart 04:09, 11 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Notability of fan altercation

Would it be worth mentioning the time that Punk mistakenly decked the wrong fan that time he entered the stands? Comparisons could be made to the Pacers–Pistons brawl when Artest mistakenly charged someone who didn't throw a drink at him (allowing the guy who did throw the diet coke, Green, to attack him).

This may happen a lot in various sports but I imagine more often in Pro Wrestling. If not a mention on Punk's page, perhaps an article about these altercations in general (emphasis on wrestling) could be made. Ranze (talk) 22:27, 17 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit Request

"Punk ... is officially recognized as the sixth-longest reigning champion of all time," actually, Punk is the FIFTH longest reigning champion, with the sixth longest reign, as Bruno Sammartino is listed twice in the top five championship reigns. So I request the edit be made to either "fifth-longest reigning champion" or "sixth-longest championship reign." Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.147.249 (talk) 18:07, 18 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

"Relationship" Rumors / Unsubstantiated / Possibly Fabricated /Pointless Crap / Non-Facts

While it appears that they have some kind of friendship, neither has ever claimed that it was more than that. Also Matt Hardy's comment was that they were not in a relationship not that they had been but it is now over. Whoever wrote this article is greatly stretching the source to say something it doesn't. Also the sun is by no means a reliable source. It's a gossip site. Tmz is more reliable. I work for the AP. we view the sun as a punch line.

Shannon and Tracy are unsubstantiated rumors and should be removed from the article. Beth has claimed that Punk was joking with the interviewer. She claims that she and Punk never dated and she was already with Edge at the time of the alleged relationship. It has already been removed from her Wikipedia page.

Glad to see the Beth part removed, but I think you might have stopped halfway. Neither Punk nor Lita have ever confirmed to be more than friends. Same can be said for Matt Hardy.

Also, Punk has always denied dating women he has worked with. More editing is required. This is an article for verifiable information only.

Personal Life

He is a well known fan of the Chicago Bears, Cubs, Blackhawks, and Bulls. He can often be seen wearing a Cubs hat.

He has either 2 or 3 surrogate sisters and is known to not have any contact with his biological family since he was a teen. He calls his friend Chez his sister and her mom his mom. Another sister of his is his "little sister Shaylene" referenced when trash talking Kevin Nash on Raw in Sugust 2011. His family attended extreme rules 2012 in Chicago.

Colt Canana is his best friend and Punk says that he considers him his brother. Kofi Kingston is his "road wife" and travels with him on the wwe tour.

He has stated that he believes TNA to be an indie league. He says his favorite comic book hero is batman because he thinks he is the most relatable.

He is real life friends with WWE superstars Kofi Kingston, The Miz, Zack Ryder, Edge, and Sheamus, as well as Divas Maryse Oulette, AJ Lee, Beth Pheonix, and Eve Torres, along with her fiancé Renner Gracie, son of the UFC founder and owner Rorion Gracie. He refers to Eve as Steve and Maryse as Maurice.

He is well known for his sarcastic nature in interviews. He has appeared at Comic Con in 2011 and 2012.

Punk has stated that he never wanted to be anything other than a professional wrestler. His dream Autitude Era opponent is Stone Cold Steve Austin. He says his favorite wrestlers in childhood were "Macho Man" Randy Savage, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Austin, and HBK Shawn Michaels.

CM Punk Face Turn 2013

Ever since CM Punk returned on June 16th at the WWE Pay per view Payback, he has showed signs of a face turn due to the fact that Paul Heyman disturbed Punk during his match against Chris Jericho and therefore Punk being dissapointed with Heyman. Furthermore, on the following episode of Money night Raw, Punk confronted the newly turned heel Alberto Del Rio. This further cemented Punk's face turn since it meant more dispute between Heyman and Punk, as Heyman was referring Punk to be his 'client' whereas Punk claimed that he was just Heyman's friend, which gained more of a positive reaction from e fans. Punk's face turn was mostly cemented when after the match with Del Rio, Brock Lesnar returned and attacked Punk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Best Dazzler (talkcontribs) 16:13, 17 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Payback was in his hometown of course he received a face reaction and had face mannerisms. What you would be adding would be original research. Wait and if it happens it can be be added. Wikipedia is also not a forum. STATic message me! 17:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 24 June 2013

Mohamadzawawi (talk) 15:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

  Not done – No request made. — Richard BB 15:35, 24 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 21 August 2013

Make the Brock Lesnar vs. CM Punk a 5 star match, please! on Wrestling Observer Newsletter. CM "Best In The World" Punk (talk) 06:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

  Not done [citation needed]Richard BB 06:36, 21 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 13 September 2013

hello , please add a vertical suplex on cm punks moveset because he uses this move alot

thanks Ahmed32917 (talk) 19:42, 13 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 19:51, 13 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 14 September 2013

add a snap suplex on cm punks moveset he uses it alot if you want proof go to youtube and write cm punk snap suplex and see he uses it and i see him doing it alot as well

thanks Ahmed32917 (talk) 16:12, 14 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

That constitutes original research. Seeing a move on YouTube isn't considered a reliable source. — Richard BB 22:13, 14 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Also keep in mind that we have a list of signature or finishing moves here, not a complete moveset. Things like vertical/snap suplexes are quite basic moves that most professional wrestlers of the last half-century commonly use. Remember, even a short match can have twenty moves, and a wrestler like Punk has 8-10 matches per month, some quite long. A match needs basic moves to fill between the opening bell, signature spots and finish. A wrestler cannot invent new moves for each match, so must repeat things like suplexes, armdrags, dropkicks and chops (among many other).
What you'll need is a source calling a move of his a signature/trademark/favourite or similar. Something like this or this. A match review from a reliable source which says something like "Punk hits his signature suplex" would also be OK. But a review which says "Punk hits a suplex" would not, even if you have a thousand of those. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:29, September 14, 2013 (UTC)

Edit Request: Steel Domain Training School

The trainers at the Steel Domain Training School WERE Ace Steel & Danny Dominion. There is no need to list "Steel Domain Training School" as a trainer if you have Ace Steel and Danny Dominion 173.70.62.121 (talk) 02:07, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

  Done I have to agree, especially because the name of the school is referenced in the article anyway. Antoshi 15:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

Who Punk is dating

It seems that every month someone new is reported that Punk is dating. Do we really need to include this information? Whether it's Lita, someone from ROH, Lita again, and now apparently AJ, it seems we're in danger of becoming a celebrity magazine. Plus, I'm not so sure the websites, which seem to base themselves on rumour, can be considered reliable sources. Can we do away with this gossip column? — Richard BB 16:30, 30 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Everything without a proper source should go in the first place, but Wikipedia is not a tabloid (per WP:BLP), so every single relationship he's had shouldn't be detailed. If he's had notable long term relationships then those can probably stay.LM2000 (talk) 20:45, 30 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
Instead of all the little reports of they broke up in..., they started dating in..., because frankly we do not know exactly when, just when it was discovered/reported. Whichever relationships are sourced to have happened, we can say in the article, "Over his career Punk has dated various female wrestlers (or divas) such as __, __ and ___." That would significantly cut down on the puff that was already there. When it was removed were any of the relationships backed by reliable sources? STATic message me! 16:29, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
I agree with Static's idea. I would suppose his dating life is somewhat notable but as said above, Wikipedia is not a tabloid. Antoshi 17:02, 31 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

One of Wikipedia's best articles? Really!?

Ya gotta be kidding? Why there's more detail in our article on Winston Churchill than I can find here on the legendary Punk. WP:DUE, broadly understood, should dictate that we need to go into far more detail on major "sports-entertainment" figures, than we do on seminal figures in world political history. Badmintonhist (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

If you have a problem with its FA status, then create an FA review. Otherwise, I don't see how coming to the article's talk page to voice your bewilderment benefits the article in any way. Antoshi 21:29, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Sounds like you should be bringing your complaints to Winston Churchill if they are lacking major details on that article. Unless you have explicit constructive suggestions, then I don't know what to tell you about this particular article. The only section that I think needs trimming is the paragraph on his love life, which has been discussed previously but no changes were ever made.LM2000 (talk) 21:39, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Let's not feed the trolls, lads. He's been posting similar drivel in other wrestling articles. — Richard BB 22:01, 26 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I disagree. I think this is one of the best WWE articles on Wikipedia that has tons of details about Punk and his characteristics, and pictures where they should be. Loads of other WWE pages have some omissions, grammar issues and lack spacing, but not Punk's.PeterMan844 (talk) 02:55, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2014

On the March 3 Raw, WWE acknowledged Punk's absence on television when the show started with Punk's entrance music playing, only for former manager Paul Heyman to come out and claim that Punk was not at Raw. Despite that, Punk's hometown crowd of Chicago continued to chant for Punk for the rest of the show, but Punk ultimately did not appear that night AdithyaMS (talk) 17:08, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: as you have not cited a reliable source to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2014

On March 31, 2014 back in WWE (3 years contract). 78.58.116.241 (talk) 16:03, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. (tJosve05a (c) 16:24, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2014

CM Punk is Engaged to AJ Lee. Source: http://archive.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=3443093573001 Petegr8 (talk) 02:47, 8 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

  Already done Anupmehra -Let's talk! 20:18, 10 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
No it isn't. It says they're in a relationship, not that they're engaged. Antoshi 20:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2014

Morris 52 code (talk) 15:39, 17 April 2014 (UTC) Have a request about the CM in CM punk it states in WWE CM Punk best in the world DVD that it stands for Chicago Made, Punk says so hiself.Reply

Punk has stated that it no longer stands for anything. The original acronym stood for "Chick Magnet", but now when asked he gives a variety of answers, all of which are listed in the article. — Richard BB 17:00, 17 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2014

Hello guys and fellow editors, I call my self the Potatomaster. I am here to make a polite request, if I am given permission I will make legit edits. I will not clown around with anything, and if I were to make edits they would probably be not major changes. Please take my request in consideration.

Many Thanks,
Potatomaster :)

Potatomaster12 (talk) 00:36, 2 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Well, you messed up the formatting already, but that's alright. In the future, indent with a colon, not a space.
An edit request is for asking for a specific edit. If you'd like to edit, all you need to do is make a few more edits around Wikipedia on non-protected pages. Then you'll become an "autoconfirmed user", and can do anything you'd like here (within the rules). InedibleHulk (talk) 00:58, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

  Not done

Edit request May 29th 2014

After months of silence, Phil Brooks has officially announced his retirement to the Chicago Red Eye. Source. Kattastrophic (talk) 22:35, 29 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

He doesn't say he's retired. The interviewer is the one who says he is retired, though Punk says nothing of the sort. He is under WWE contract until July.LM2000 (talk) 04:41, 31 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
Aye. Punk "certainly didn't side-step the issue and seemed comfortable/affirmative about their insinuation that he has retired, but let's not forget how loose the term has become in professional wrestling." My emphasis, someone else's words. Only the ladder is real! InedibleHulk (talk) 22:24, May 31, 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request 17th June 2014

could you maybe add Spouse: April Jeanette Mendez under punk's picture? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingZeko (talkcontribs) 11:51, 17 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

PUNK.S RETIRE....

officially — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shubhammaharaj (talkcontribs) 14:33, 23 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Which is what the article says. — Richard BB 17:46, 23 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

retirment

Wow, one month later and we still talking about retirment, truth or lie. This isn't speculation. CM Punk said he is retired. Also, PWInsider, a reliable source, said so. We don't judge the sources, we write what sources say. For example, Low Ki retired a few months (also, 34 years old) and now he is wrestling. Ric Flair retired in 2008 and one year later he was wrestling against Hulk Hogan in Australia. Until Punk'll return to a ring, he is retired (even if a magazine writer wants to spectulate if he isn't retired.) --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 23:26, 25 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

I put a source, but my thing still got deleted.

Ok, this morning, i got a message, on an edit where I put in that alberto del rio said that cm punk will be back soon:

Please do not add or change content, as you did to CM Punk, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. STATic message me! 17:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

My reply:

Uh, i did put in a source. It quoted what Alberto Del Rio said in an interview, with a link to it on the page. That counts as a source. Future WWE Champion, DrewieStewie (talk) 22:52, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Whats going on?

Future WWE Champion, DrewieStewie (talk) 22:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wait i see. I made a citation error. Ill fix if i can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrewieStewie (talkcontribs) 22:58, 29 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

first, del rio onlgy gave his opinion. Also, he said he believe punk will return.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:03, 4 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wrestlers Trained

Colby Lopez (Seth Rollins) needs to be added to the list of wrestlers trained by CM Punk. Punk had trained Lopez for free.

JPott (talk) 04:41, 1 July 2014 (UTC) JPottReply

According to whom? InedibleHulk (talk) 13:56, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Edit semi protected page

Photo Ajaryanxyz73 (talk) 09:26, 3 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Edit request

Photo of cm punk

Ajaryanxyz73 (talk) 09:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Maybe. But first you need to suggest one that fits with our image use policy and share it here. We already have some photos. If you're actually requesting one of those, just right click it and save it. Everything on Wikipedia is meant to be free to readers, which is why we can't use owned work from strangers. InedibleHulk (talk) 13:53, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Fued between Punk and Chris Brown

No mention of the Twitter fued between the two? I only heard about Punk through this news story.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1679663/chris-brown-feud-miranda-lambert-cm-punk/

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/chris-brown-cm-punk-feud-continues-wrestler-video-response-chris-brown-isn-man-article-1.1026766

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-22/entertainment/chi-cm-punk-twitter-war-chris-brown-video-20120221_1_twitter-feud-twitter-war-chris-brown

--Wjserson (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

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