Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with www.sanu.ac.rs

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Files bearing on VRT ticket # 2009072410055859, nominated per comment of fellow Commoner (and current VRT agent) Lvova: [1] (Google translation: According to current policy, the ticket does not contain the required declarations – it literally says The material, data, photos and information found on the SANU website (www.sanu.ac.rs) are available to everyone and are not subject to any restrictions. You are free to use them in a way that will not endanger the reputation of SANU, citizens of Serbia and the state of Serbia. We also ask you to publish the downloaded material in its entirety in order to avoid misinterpretation and putting the facts in a different context (that means, at least, there is no permission for derivative works). In 2009, it seems, this was still accepted, and the correspondence was initiated by a VRT agent, who (I did not look at the reason) did not close it, later ceased to be an agent and the ticket was closed as not requiring a response, sorting out what was assigned to it; that is, formally the ticket was used, and this is not a violation of the uploader, but the ticket does not have the status "closed successfully". In general, a nomination for deletion (of all materials under this ticket) is needed with a description of the situation and the opinion of the community.) I will add that SANU's response, as it turns out, is posted here: sr:Википедија:Дозволе за објављивање/САНУ.

Quick1984 (talk) 14:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the reply, Масликовић says the images "are not subject to any restrictions" (ne podlezu nikakvim ogranicenjima). The phrasing "we also ask" (Takodje vas molimo) reads to me as a request or at the strongest a noncopyright restriction, so it's not the same as releasing things only on a no-derivative works basis. (Not a native speaker/reader and working with translation here, so I could well be missing nuances.) —Tcr25 (talk) 16:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that I understood everything correctly and still on my point: by current standarts we need to hear clearly the set of statements that is not represented in this ticket. If there are no words 'we allow derivative works' - there is no permission for derivative works. But of course this discussion is needed to hear opinions. Анастасия Львова^ru/en 17:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Licensing#Acceptable licenses: …the license must meet the following conditions: […] Publication of derivative work must be allowed. --Quick1984 (talk) 17:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So "are not subject to any restrictions" doesn't meet that standard? —Tcr25 (talk) 18:55, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I find more promising another approach: to see whether some of these fall under {{PD-Serbia}}. Quick1984 (talk) 21:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some clearly would be public domain, PD-Art, and/or PD-old-assumed:
File:Nićifor Dučić, 1874.jpg was painted by Stevan Todorović (d. 1925)

File:Jovan Stejić.jpg was apparently published in 1902 and based on a c. 1850 calotype by Anastas Jovanović (d. 1899). There's a better quality version at File:Jovan Stejić.pdf that a jpg version could be made from

File:1576. Србуља-тетро еванђеље (АСАНУК, ф.РК, инв.бр. 1).jpg Question would be if the book is too 3D to make PD-Art apply.

Based on year of death of the subject, PD-old-assumed could be possible.
File:Giovanni_de_Rubertis,_SANU.jpg (d. 1889)

File:Mihailo Raskovic.jpg (d. 1872)

File:Andrejevic Sima Igumanov.jpg (d. 1882)

—Tcr25 (talk) 21:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- For example, File:FortunatovFilip.jpg seems to be a smaller copy of File:Filipp Fortunatov.jpg, which is PD. --Quick1984 (talk) 21:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quite a lot of those can be probably under {{PD-Serbia}}... We need a bit of time to sort it out. I would like to remove RfD from those we figure out that they are in PD. Ђидо (talk) 00:32, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sysops are here to remove deletion templates from files. Quick1984 (talk) 07:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When it comes to translation Takodje vas molimo ≈ But we also ask you please --Milićević (talk) 19:32, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And that's not a noncopyright restriction, not at all. All in all, please do not be hasty when it comes to deleting these images. — Sadko (words are wind) 22:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me, both from the text of this “permission” and from the variety of these images, that owners of this website do not understand the principles of copyright and are not the proper copyright holders of any of the images posted there. Most of all, this looks like license laundering. --Quick1984 (talk) 01:40, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:FortunatovFilip.jpg Keep PD-1996 for anonymous Serbia image. --RAN (talk) 03:30, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, this image has nothing to do with Serbia. Secondly, see above. Quick1984 (talk) 03:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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