Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with www.sanu.ac.rs: Difference between revisions

Files bearing on VRT ticket # 2009072410055859, nominated per comment of fellow Commoner (and current VRT agent) Lvova: [1] (Google translation: According to current policy, the ticket does not contain the required declarations – it literally says The material, data, photos and information found on the SANU website (www.sanu.ac.rs) are available to everyone and are not subject to any restrictions. You are free to use them in a way that will not endanger the reputation of SANU, citizens of Serbia and the state of Serbia. We also ask you to publish the downloaded material in its entirety in order to avoid misinterpretation and putting the facts in a different context (that means, at least, there is no permission for derivative works). In 2009, it seems, this was still accepted, and the correspondence was initiated by a VRT agent, who (I did not look at the reason) did not close it, later ceased to be an agent and the ticket was closed as not requiring a response, sorting out what was assigned to it; that is, formally the ticket was used, and this is not a violation of the uploader, but the ticket does not have the status "closed successfully". In general, a nomination for deletion (of all materials under this ticket) is needed with a description of the situation and the opinion of the community.) I will add that SANU's response, as it turns out, is posted here: sr:Википедија:Дозволе за објављивање/САНУ.

• File:Vaso Čubrilović, SANU.jpg
• File:Miloš Blagojević, SANU.jpg
• File:Giovanni de Rubertis, SANU.jpg
• File:Pecat SKA.jpg
• File:Božidar Ferjančić.jpg
• File:Aleksandar Mladenović.jpg
• File:AleksandarRadosavljević.jpg
• File:BabicDjordjevicG.jpg
• File:Milojevic Borivoje.jpg
• File:Akademik Djordje Lazarevic.jpg
• File:Aleksandar Ivić.jpg
• File:Mihailo Raskovic.jpg
• File:Zgrada u brankovoj.jpg
• File:Antonije Đorđević.jpg
• File:Mihailodinic.jpg
• File:Andrejevic Sima Igumanov.jpg
• File:AndrejMitrovic.jpg
• File:Sima Ćirković, SANU.jpg
• File:Г. Златарски, П. Павловић, Ј. М. Жујовић, С. Бобчев, С. Урошевић.jpg
• File:FortunatovFilip.jpg
• File:George Ostrogorsky.jpg
• File:Jasa Prodanovic.jpg
• File:Aleksandar Despić, SANU.jpg
• File:DragutinZelenovic.jpg
• File:Svetopolk Pivko.jpg
• File:Miro Nenadović.jpg
• File:Radivoj Kasanin.jpg
• File:Jovan Stejić.jpg
• File:MilosavMarjanovic.jpg
• File:JovanBijelić.jpg
• File:Manastir Vojlovica.jpg
• File:Crkva Sv. Duha u Kupinovu.jpg
• File:Ambar u Staparu.jpg
• File:Tri pesnice Bubanj.jpg
• File:Manastir pecka patrijarsija.jpg
• File:BogdanMaglic.jpg
• File:Боривоје Рашајски.jpg
• File:Славиша Прешић.jpg
• File:Manastir Draca.jpg
• File:Milka Ivić.jpg
• File:Nićifor Dučić, 1874.jpg
• File:Вуков Српски рјечник са Вуковим белешкама.jpg
• File:1576. Србуља-тетро еванђеље (АСАНУК, ф.РК, инв.бр. 1).jpg
• File:Antonije Isaković.jpg

Quick1984 (talk) 14:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the reply, Масликовић says the images "are not subject to any restrictions" (ne podlezu nikakvim ogranicenjima). The phrasing "we also ask" (Takodje vas molimo) reads to me as a request or at the strongest a noncopyright restriction, so it's not the same as releasing things only on a no-derivative works basis. (Not a native speaker/reader and working with translation here, so I could well be missing nuances.) —Tcr25 (talk) 16:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that I understood everything correctly and still on my point: by current standarts we need to hear clearly the set of statements that is not represented in this ticket. If there are no words 'we allow derivative works' - there is no permission for derivative works. But of course this discussion is needed to hear opinions. Анастасия Львова^ru/en 17:27, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Commons:Licensing#Acceptable licenses: …the license must meet the following conditions: […] Publication of derivative work must be allowed. --Quick1984 (talk) 17:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  So "are not subject to any restrictions" doesn't meet that standard? —Tcr25 (talk) 18:55, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I find more promising another approach: to see whether some of these fall under {{PD-Serbia}}. Quick1984 (talk) 21:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • For example, File:FortunatovFilip.jpg seems to be a smaller copy of File:Filipp Fortunatov.jpg, which is PD. --Quick1984 (talk) 21:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When it comes to translation Takodje vas molimo ≈ But we also ask you please --Milićević (talk) 19:32, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]