Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Socialist Party (India)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. It looks like this discussion has moved past the boundaries of AfD, so I'm closing this as no consensus and referring further discussion to the article's talk page for now. No prejudice against relisting, in the event that that discussion finds that no article at this title ought to exist after all. asilvering (talk) 23:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Socialist Party (India)

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I strongly doubt "Indian political parties named Socialist Party" is a notable list topic per WP:NLIST. I propose turning this article into a disambiguation page. Sourced claims that are present here should be moved to applicable articles. Janhrach (talk) 16:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, Disambiguations, Lists, and India. Janhrach (talk) 16:46, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - but assign to the original Socialist Party. The first SP (the 1951 one) was a major national party, was the largest opposition party in national parliament at some point. The article should be delimited to that party. --Soman (talk) 21:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soman: Do you mean the one that "won only 12 seats at the 1951 Indian general election". Is that sentence from the article accurate? Janhrach (talk) 12:25, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See [1]. The wording "only 12 seats" is a bit odd, as 12 seats in national election is hardly a minor feat. The party was the third largest in the first election, winning 12 seats, with 11,216,719 votes (10.59%). Clearly the original SP is the primary topic here. --Soman (talk) 16:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification. Indeed, now I see that coming third in the election is a major event, and so I support the notion of SP being the primary topic here. Janhrach (talk) 17:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but change. I can see several ways what to do with this: (1) Redirecting this to List of socialist parties#India is better than turning this into a dab page (because of WP:INCDAB) or set index page (the parties are not truly named the same thing), and takes care of OR and N. (2) Rename it to something like Socialist parties in India or Socialist politics in India and refocus, similar to how the two interwikis (de, bn) have done. The point appears to be that Indian socialists have (under different names) been trying to gain hold in the political arena for decades and failed. That might be an overarching notable topic. – sgeureka ^t•c 08:37, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Socialism in India already exists. Thanks for the other suggestions, particluraly for mentioning INCDAB, which I did not know about. As for the suggestion to remodel the article like the dewiki one, I think making the result part of the aforementioned Socialism in India is preferable to keeping it a separate article, mainly in the light of that article not mentioning the events described in Socialist party (India). Janhrach (talk) 12:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
German wiki article says clearly that the party existed 1948-1952. --Soman (talk) 16:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The lead of the German article is weird; the rest of the article is similar in scope to the one we are discussing. (The framing is, however, different: the enwiki article looks like a list, but the German one is more focused on chronological description of the events related to the parties.) Janhrach (talk) 17:31, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To further complicate things: the 1948-1952 Socialist Party is essentially the same party as the Congress Socialist Party. I'll try to work on a draft to improve an article on 1948-1952 SP provisionally, but eventually there should be a merge between CSP and SP articles. --Soman (talk) 14:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.