Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Idunn (comics)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Asgard (comics). The Gnome makes a strong argument why a merge would be inappropriate. There's two different possible redirect targets mentioned here; List of Marvel Comics characters and Asgard (comics). The later is the more often mentioned one, so I'm going with that. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:30, 21 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Another minor character with no real world notability. Should be a redirect to List of Marvel Comics characters, but some editors insist on recreating. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:34, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:34, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: did you read the actual article, can you not see the notability of the character, if Gaea (Marvel Comics), Freyja (comics), In-Betweener, Hecate (Marvel Comics), Ex Nihilo (comics), Magni (Marvel Comics), Knull (comics) and Tyrant (Marvel Comics) exist then why not this article? Plus, shouldn't this be a merger discussion rather than a deletion one. Penguin₇₈₁₂(Talk Page) 13:49, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Striking off commentary by confirmed sockpuppet. -The Gnome (talk) 08:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment @Penguin7812: See WP:OSE. Moaz786 (talk to me or see what I've been doing) 15:06, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect/Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: I. The article contains only in-universe plot information, and the only references being used are the comics she appeared in. I have been unable to find anything that would indicate any sort of real world notability. Rorshacma (talk) 15:28, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - @Rorshacma: If I fix those problems, then would it be fine? Penguin₇₈₁₂(Talk Page) 15:39, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Striking off commentary by confirmed sockpuppet. -The Gnome (talk) 08:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• @Penguin7812: - please familiarize yourself with WP:GNG, Wikipedia criteria for inclusion is different than Marvel Wiki, where all of these characters already exist in far more fleshed out form. Trying to shoehorn those types of pages into Wikipedia will just result in failure, as most Marvel character pages are there simply because nobody wanted to expend the trouble of AfD nominating them all._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 17:32, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 15:52, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Redirecting it to a list that is only sourced to comic books will just ensure it gets deleted by G8 when that entire list is nominated for deletion as fancruft. So, delete for failing GNG and save the trouble._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 17:26, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Be sure to ping me when that nomination happens. Argento Surfer (talk) 16:58, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or merge to Asgard (comics). No need to delete when merge is a valid option. BOZ (talk) 18:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect/merge to any of the suggested targets due to the lack of any sourcing that is not in-universe. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 19:02, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Asgard (comics). No reliable secondary sources so nothing worth merging, but valid search term. --Killer Moff- ill advisedly sticking his nose in since 2011 (talk) 09:15, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Asgard (comics), which provides sufficient information on the character. The character list mentioned in the nomination is not meant to be exhaustive and Idunn does not meet my criteria for an entry on that list (only linked inline by 13 articles when templates are discounted). Argento Surfer (talk) 12:53, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Asgard (comics) seems like the best option to me. It is a viable search term, though I do not think it has enough coverage for an independent article. The character is already covered in the redirect target so anyone interested in learning more would be good. I think a redirect would be a better option than deletion. Aoba47 (talk) 18:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Question since the user who restored this article has now been blocked indefinitely as a sock, and all articles they created have been deleted, should this article be reverted to a redirect and the AFD speedy closed, since the user should never have created/recreated this article in the first place? BOZ (talk) 05:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm seeing consensus for a different target article. I'd let this play out. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:06, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• A Redirect, at best, since only self references are found when looking for sources. We are not supposed to dump elsewhere in Wikipedia unsourced material; we are supposed to throw it away. -The Gnome (talk) 08:04, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.