Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Ali (footballer born 1990)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 00:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Ali (footballer born 1990)

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~~Contested PROD. I believe this player fails both WP:ATHLETE (as he hasn't played in a fully-pro league, and youth caps do not confer notability) and WP:GNG. Giant Snowman 11:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)~~[reply]

I am happy that this player meets WP:ATHLETE, following new research from Bettia, so I would like to withdraw the nomination. Giant Snowman 12:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Giant Snowman 11:36, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- –Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:57, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - has yet to play a first-team professional match for his club side. As GiantSnowman says, U20 caps don't confer notability. Eddie6705 (talk) 15:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Youth caps don't confer notability and there is no evidence he passes WP:GNG Spiderone 17:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In light of new evidence, i'm changing my vote to Keep. Eddie6705 (talk) 16:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - A 19-year-old soccer player making WP:ATHLETE standards would be a rare occurance. No secondary sources. Racepacket (talk) 17:18, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - No it isn't. To pass Wp:ATHLETE (and particularly the football one), you need to make an appearance for a club in a professional league. In England, that's the top four divisions. And there's a number of players in those leagues - and particularly Leagues 1 and 2 - that were born in the 1990s. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 15:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:ATHLETE. Joe Chill (talk) 20:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Changed to Keep: Passes WP:ATHLETE. Joe Chill (talk) 18:49, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:ATHLETE. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 05:11, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails Wp:ATHLETE. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 15:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Changing vote to Keep, since he's made an appearance in the UAE league, which is fully-professional, therefore passing Wp:ATHLETE. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 12:03, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - the article notes that he plays for Al-Wahda FC, which is in the premier division of UAE Football League, that is listed as a fully-professional league. Are we sure that he hasn't started for them? It's hard to find line-ups for this league in English; can anyone speak Arabic? Nfitz (talk) 03:20, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As Nfitz says, the UAE league is fully professional, and this match report confirms that he has played at this level. Bettia (talk) 10:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per details above showing that he has played in a fully-professional league. 8lgm (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Good catch Bettia; I must have spent half-an-hour trying to find something like that; the adjectives I found in Gulf papers describing his U20 performance seemed to hint that he was playing, but were inconclusive. Nfitz (talk) 03:44, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per match report above Steve-Ho (talk) 12:11, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes WP:ATHLETE as he has appeared for a fully professional team in a fully professional league. Infobox should be updated. Cocytus [»talk«] 22:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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