Talk:Sadness

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The article "Sadness" was nominated for deletion. The result of the debate was "redirect to depression (mood)". --Aleph4 16:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Has the recreation of the page been discussed? Looks like it hasn't, but is rather the work of some very new editors. Richard001 00:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As per the above, I'm going to shortly redirect this article to Depression (mood) unless anyone says otherwise. Barrylb (talk) 05:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, Someone has replaced this entire article with the contents of the "rage" article please restore it. I'm sorry, I don't know how to draw someone's attention to this properly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.128.243.2 (talk) 03:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Depression is very different from sadness (while connected in form). Depression is a more extreme and longer form of sadness; not just a realization, but identified as a true medical case in the major context. --209.80.246.31 (talk) 17:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help Nick Vilches (talk) 17:36, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

These subjects should be (besides the definition) very focused on. We should focus on what causes sadness, why people get sad, the scientific aspect, the religious aspect and the spiritual (not to forget philosophy which comes naturally in). If we just describe what it is, we are doing no more then the dictionary, and missing the "whole" image. --209.80.246.31 (talk) 17:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Sadness is a temporary lowering of mood ('feeling blue,') whereas clinical depression is characterised by a persistent and intense lowered mood, as well as disruption to one's ability to function in day to day matters."

Not sure why the comma after 'feeling blue' is now inside the brackets, unless this is some difference in usage between British and American English? I have always been taught that "If the sentence is logically and grammatically complete without the information contained within the parentheses (round brackets), the punctuation stays (outside the brackets". --veracity-or-mendacity 12:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It seems he added the brackets because it is a metaphor, rather then a word. Feeling "blue" realating to sadness, thus the brackets make it more apparent. At least for me. --209.80.246.31 (talk) 17:16, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This section seems to contain different points of views that are mixed together without adequate explanation or analysis. If I understand correctly, there is a point of view that sad people are less accurate in evaluating things, with supporting evidence, and there is a point of view that sad people are more accurate in evaluating things, with supporting evidence, but the article doesn't distinguish between these POVs. If the article is attempting to reconcile conflicting POVs it does so in a manner that is confusing. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 00:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

• "Ambadi 2002" :
  • http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~hgray/papers/PsycARTICLES_2002-18351-012.pdf
  • http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~hgray/papers/PsycARTICLES_2002-18351-012.pdf

DumZiBoT (talk) 23:35, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed the sentence:

• Once sad we normally we go through an process called crying where we shed tears.

to

• When sad we often go through a process called crying where we shed tears.

Despite the obvious errors. I think the intensity of 'normally' is too much. Often is better suited Werner ghost (talk) 18:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Studies have shown that when someone says they are angry or filled with hate that they are actually deeply sad or disappointed. Hate and anger are often ways emotionally disturbed individuals express sadness or disappointment, due to an inability or refusal to express their true feelings of sadness and disappointment."

Not only there are no sources to this statment, but it downplays and dismisses the feelings of hate and anger as something only "emomtionally disturbed individuals" can feel.

Aren't this kind of feelings as legitimate as sadness? Aren't there social situations where someone psicologicaly stable can feel angry about something? Or hate towards someone? It may be conected to feelings of sadness and disappointment, but they are distinct and normal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.155.230.254 (talk) 03:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Surely we can find a better image then a child temporarily upset because of a dropped hotdog? Dougweller (talk) 04:51, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I've replaced it with File:Mary_Magdalene_Crying_Statue.jpg from commons. --McGeddon (talk) 10:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2001:FB1:155:7AAF:6D82:79DE:5932:2E83 (talk) 01:39, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been often vandalized this year. I was able to recover the content. If protection or PC tool is too soon, how long must I wait for more vandalism to occur? --George Ho (talk) 19:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Should probably be linked to All I Want (Kodaline song) Atomic putty? Rien! (talk) (talk) 20:49, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The current text has no treatment of the functions of sadness or the positive effects of sadness (possibly after the Neuroanatomy section). I suggest to add a passage that goes something like this: The function of sadness According to functional theories, emotions are designed to allow people to effectively deal with the situations that evoke the emotion [1]. Sadness is believed to serve two primary functions that enhance one's ability to cope with loss [2]. One function is the promotion of cognitive changes that restructure beliefs and goals and reevaluate implications [3]. For instance, when sad, people tend to be less affected by their schemas in general, including schemas regarding political ideology (the heuristic regarding how a conservative or a liberal should respond) when making political decisions [4]. Another function is to signal a need for assistance and elicit support from others [5]. This may be done by following the group norms, being kinder to others, and expressing the need for help physically and verbally. As a result, the experience of sadness as a group may decrease emotional polarization[6] and increase relationship building[7].

1. Lench, H. C., Tibbett, T. P., & Bench, S. W. (2016) Exploring the toolkit of emotion: what do sadness and anger do for us? Social and Personality Psychology Compass. 10(1): 11–25. https://doi.org/10.1111/spc3.1222 2. Karnaze, M.M., Levine, L.J. (2018). Sadness, the Architect of Cognitive Change. In: Lench, H. (eds) The Function of Emotions. (pp. 45-58).‏ Springer, Cham. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-319-77619-4_4 3. Levine, L. J., & Edelstein, R. S. (2009). Emotion and memory narrowing: A review and goal-relevance approach. Cognition and Emotion, 23(5), 833–875. https://doi.org/10.1080/02699930902738863 4. Gur, T., Halperin, E., & Ayal, S. (2020). A Bright Side of Sadness: The Depolarizing Role of Sadness in Intergroup Conflicts. European Journal of Social Psychology. https://doi.org/10.1002/ejsp.2715 5. Frijda, N. H. (1994). Emotions Are Functional, Most of the Time. In P. Ekman & R. J. Davidson (Eds.), The nature of emotion: Fundamental questions (pp. 112–122). New York, NY: Oxford University Press. https://doi.org/10.1080/026999399379140 6. Gur, T., Ayal, S., Wagner, M., Adler, E., & Halperin, E. (2024). A Group that Grieves Together Stays Together: Examining the Impact of Holocaust Memorial Day in Israel on Affective Polarization. Political Psychology. https://doi.org/10.1111/pops 7. Gray, H. M., Ishii, K., & Ambady, N. (2011). Misery loves company: When sadness increases the desire for social connectedness. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 37(11), 1438-1448.‏ https://doi.org/10.1177/0146167211420167 Tamar Gur (talk) 12:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]