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Hi. I recently created and originated an article on Wikipedia about Warburg's Tincture. I'm writing here to enquire if the article should added to the Medicine WikiProject? I feel Warburg's Tincture is important in the history of medicine.--Roland Sparkes (talk) 18:14, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I meant WikiProject History of Science. Can the article the Warburg's Tincture be added please? And also the Carl Warburg article? --Roland Sparkes (talk) 00:26, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

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I noticed that the Sun article contained some discussion of the iron group and contained a redlink to that article, so I created it. Since this group is considered obsolete by chemists, I feel that its purview belongs to the History of Science project and thought I ought to bring it the attention of the History-of-Science wikipedians. --arkuat (talk) 04:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

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I am soliciting the History of Science Project to lend a hand to a new editor User talk:Kdksobiech and his first article: Correspondence of the 18th Century Naturalists. I removed a PROD that was I believe inappropriately placed on the article within seconds after its creation. The article needs clean up and may need to be broken up into sections related to each naturalist, but it doesn't warrant deletion. Even though it isn't in great WP style, it appears well sourced and has potential for a very interesting list. Any support and encouragement you can give: User:Kdksobiech would be appreaciated.--Mike Cline (talk) 14:36, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I've updated my list of Missing science-related topics - Skysmith (talk) 12:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello,

I am currently working on the Carl Linnaeus article to bring it to FA status (although GA will be the first goal). Many improvements have been made already but there is a lot to do still. Basically everything except the Biography section needs an overhaul.

Linnaeus is an important part of this wikiproject and I am wondering if there are anybody here who would like to assist me in bringing it to FA status with me (or just do some editing)? If you are, you're more than welcome to contact me on my talk page or Carl Linnaeus talk page.

Thanks, Esuzu (talk • contribs) 12:29, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello. You are invited to take part in the discussion on Science in the Middle Ages. The question is should we keep or remove the section on the Islamic world. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 08:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

FYI, there's a dispute going on at Johannes Hevelius (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) article and talk page for 7 years now, about whether this guy is German or Polish. This guy apparently invented some constellations that are still used today. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 20:31, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

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Please see discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Motorcycling#Early_motorcycles_synchronization.--Dbratland (talk) 02:50, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I just created a new article titled G. J. Toomer. Quite a large number of articles link to it, but it's very stubby. Do what you can to improve it. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I've created an article titled Ptolemy's table of chords. It is imperfect. Work on it. Michael Hardy (talk) 23:37, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

At Talk:Ptolemy's table of chords, I've created a "to do" list of work that should get done on this article. I'll probably get to most or all of it eventually unless others get there first. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

.....and here's the to-do list:

Work that needs to be done on this article:

• Further inline citations, including:

• It was the earliest trigonometric table extensive enough for many practical purposes, including those of astronomy
• (an earlier table of chords by Hipparchus gave chords only for arcs that were multiples of 7½°).
• Several centuries passed before more extensive trigonometric tables were created.
• Page numbers in Glowatzki and Göttsche?
• The parts about the three distinct methods of computing chords.

• More on the geometric theorems: Their precise statements, how they are proved, how they are used in deriving trigonometric identities, how those identities are used in computing chords.
• History of editions of the book including those in Arabic.
• When did more extensive tables supersede this one? Which century?
• How did the table influence later work?

• And probably other things.........

Michael Hardy (talk) 15:57, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

History of Science WikiProject members, please, this is being discussed at:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Names of small numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Names_of_small_numbers#Names_of_small_numbers

Please also consider what additions from binary and other numbering systems and from historically and epistemologically significant concepts and works should be made to this topic as a kept article, especially subtopics which may not be known by Wikipedian editors in other fields.

Thank you. Pandelver (talk) 00:27, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Help at generality of algebra would be appreciated. Tkuvho (talk) 20:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:List of Indian inventions and discoveries#Gordian Knot ballot box. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 13:43, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

There is an RFC on the addition of identifier links to citations by bots. Please comment. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 15:58, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Several lists of scientific publications are being considered for deletion (see the infobox). Some, like List of important publications in biology, already have been deleted. These are primarily historical lists. RockMagnetist (talk) 04:40, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

The article on Carl Linnaeus is very close to being recognised as a Good Article. Unfortunately, the person who nominated it appears to be absent. The only outstanding issue is that the short section on "Linnean taxonomy" needs to be referenced. This is basically a summary of Linnean taxonomy, but that, too, is unreferenced. If anyone here can help with referencing that section – or even re-writing it – it would be much appreciated, and would be a huge step towards getting this very important article raised to GA level. --Stemonitis (talk) 08:23, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

I have just written this new section of Ptolemy's table of chords, which I could not write until we recently acquired the ability to include some archaic Greek letters in TeX.

Doubtless further work on that section could get done, and for the rest of the article, there is a "to do" list at talk:Ptolemy's table of chords. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:40, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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Count Iblis (talk) 00:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

List of important publications in chemistry has been nominated for deletion. Discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of important publications in chemistry.  --Lambiam 22:18, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

The result was keep. RockMagnetist (talk) 14:18, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I'm a new page patroller and ran across this new page. It's in fairly bad shape right now and could use some TLC from experienced editors who also know something of the field. From what I'm seeing, it looks like the information currently contained in the a article could fit into other articles more appropriately. I can see how this could possibly warrant its own article but this is admittedly far from my area of expertise. I could use some more eyes on the article if any of you have time. If you have any advice for me, I'd appreciate it if you could leave it on my talk page or leave me a TB if you want to continue talking here as I'm not going to put this page on my watchlist. OlYeller21^Talktome 14:15, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

At the time

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of publications in law
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of important publications in sociology

were nominated, I believe this wikiproject was not notified. They currently are at

• User:Curb Chain/List of important publications in law
• User:Curb Chain/List of important publications in sociology

as User:RHaworth deleted them when I created it.Curb Chain (talk) 23:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Below are some ideas on restructuring and revitalizing WikiProject History. It may be easier to keep discussion in one place, perhaps here.

• Restructure the front page so that it more closely resembles that of WikiProject Military History. This design is easy to navigate, and getting to specific areas of the WikiProject is made quicker and less difficult.

• Forge closer ties with some of its "daughter" projects. WikiProject History should serve as a focal point for history-related article improvement drives and discussions, and should be a community of editors supportive of smaller, fairly inactive region-specific history projects.

• Expand the A-Class review process. This should be a major function of WikiProject History (conducting A-Class reviews for smaller, "daughter" projects).
  • Work on expanding the number of History Good and Featured articles.

• Host task forces devoted to improving recently-created articles. Some editors should work with WikiProject Deletion Sorting to save as many quality history-related AfDs as reasonably possible.

• WikiProject History should be less of a "front-lines" WikiProject, like the Military History one, but more of a coordinating effort. An enhanced A-Class review process and forging relations with "daughter" projects would help to achieve this goal.

• All current WikiProject History members would be members of the new, revitalized project. WikiProject Military History members, as well as members of all region-specific history projects, would be automatically inducted into the project, although these users could opt out at any time.

• All members of the WikiProject should have an equal say in WikiProject affairs.
  • However, a group of five coordinators should be elected by all editors that are part of the abovementioned categories to make the WikiProject "flow" smoothly. These coordinators would serve for twelve months each, and would be elected in February of each year.
  • Each coordinator would have a specific task, or "department".
    • Chief Coordinator. This coordinator would serve as a guide to other coordinators and members of the project.
    • Assessment and Review Coordinator. This coordinator would sort reviews, with the help of two delegates that s/he could appoint.
    • Membership Coordinator. This coordinator would deal with membership issues, and would direct and judge "contests" on the project.
    • Resources Coordinator. This coordinator would assist members in need.
    • Content Coordinator. This coordinator would work on improving articles in need, and would direct efforts and drives related to this.

WikiProject History should be a visible, important part of the encyclopedia, as it should work to coordinate other projects and direct various task forces and drives on the website. Newcomers interested in history should be assisted and guided by the Resources Coordinator and other helpful editors.

WikiProject History should work together with other projects to achieve some of the goals of the encyclopedia as a whole.

Thank you for reading this, and for commenting, if you are interested. DCItalk 23:17, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

{{Alchemy}} has been nominated for deletion. 76.65.128.132 (talk) 04:25, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Is up for FPOC. This is one of the highest (if not the highest) visibility portal on Wikipedia, I recommend commenting on it! Cheers, ResMar 23:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I refer the group to this thread on the Talk page at Major Depressive Disorder concerning the use of Vincent van Gogh's painting "At Eternity's Gate" in that article and to this comment of mine pointing out it has no place in the article and should be removed.

The essence of the complaint is that is fully documented that van Gogh's painting is not at all, nor was ever meant to be, a portrayal of depressive disorder but is rather merely a study of an old man. For that reason alone it should be removed for reasons of encyclopaedic accuracy.

As it stands it necessarily makes a judgement about the nature of depressive disorder, that it necessarily implies despair, even that it necessarily implies suicidal ideation (because of its title and van Gogh's own well known suicide). It is very much to be regretted indeed in my opinion that a Wikipedia administrator, Casliber, a practicising psychiatrist it seems but a poor historian of art, appears to be the prime mover behind perpetuating these poor judgements.

It also mythologises Vincent van Gogh himself who took the greatest care to separate his difficulties in life from his work; the nature of whose illness is not settled but which is not certainly typical of a depressive disorder; who is not documented as suffering from suicidal depressive moods in the last months of his life when this painting was completed and whose suicide itself has in the past year been plausibly questioned by a respected source as rather a manslaughter.

I ask that the image be removed. If it is felt necessary, and I cannot imagine why it should be, that the article be illustrated by a fine art image, then I suggest the original image, Durer's Melancholia, be reinserted. Skirtopodes (talk) 22:33, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

I am involved in a content discussion on Talk:Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory#Mutual Misunderstings? with a gentleman identifying himself as the senior science writer for that facility, regarding the nature of relationship of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory to the Eugenics Record Office. I invite any disinterested by knowledgeable editors to review the discussion and weigh in. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:31, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Would someone please take a look at the edit request here? Rivertorch (talk) 08:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I have nominated Barbara McClintock for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Input would be appreciated at an RfC regarding the Nobel prize. --Noleander (talk) 18:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Would someone with expertise in complex Fourier series comment on the points I make in the Deferent and Epicycle article talk page - Is the Mathematical Formalism subsection correct?. Thanks. Dnessett (talk) 17:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

File:Sidereus Nuncius Medicean Stars.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Please join the Chemical Heritage Foundation Edit-a-Thon, June 20, 2013. Build content relating to women in science, chemistry and the history of science. Use the hashtag #GlamCHF and write your favorite scientist or chemist into Wikipedian history!

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There is a debate over a deletion proposal. All comments are welcome. Fakirbakir (talk) 18:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

• Portal:Technology

I've nominated Portal:Technology for featured candidacy. Comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Technology. — Cirt (talk) 01:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

• Portal:Technology

I've nominated Portal:Technology for featured candidacy. Comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Technology. — Cirt (talk) 17:36, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Allow me to draw your attention to the Wiki Project Teylers: a collaboration between Wikipedia and Teylers Museum (Haarlem, the Netherlands) to improve the content of articles related to Teylers Museum and its collections: Wikipedia:GLAM/Teylers/Multilingual_Challenge. Established in 1778, Teylers Museum was originally founded as a centre for contemporary art and science. Martinus van Marum, the museum's first director, corresponded with Herschel, Volta, Goethe and other leading scientist of the Enlightenment period. Van Marum was the first to introduce Lavoisier's oxygen theory in the Netherlands. He also commissioned the largest electrostatic generator in the world for Teylers Museum (still on view in the museum). The entire collection of Teylers Physical Cabinet is available online: museum website You can find more information on Teylers Museum, its history and its scientific activities in the past on a special website:Teylers Universe 1778-1826. For the Teylers Challenge we are still looking for people who'd be interested in writing / expanding articles on the history of science! The museum can supply pictures and sources.Gjjanse (talk) 12:14, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello all. We at Wikiproject medicine are working on a project to improve and translate 80 or so key medical articles into as many other languages as possible. This is being done with the help of an NGO called Translators Without Borders. The project is discussed in detail here with the list of articles being worked on here Book:Health care. Help improving the "history of medicine" sections before translation would be appreciated. --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Stumbled on Tycho Brahe's (alleged) Calendarium Naturale Magicum Perpetuum and ended up pulling together a stub on the calendar and its "author" Johann Baptist Grossschedel. Outside my normal interests, so stuck at what cats to add. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:12, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

I've left some notes Talk:Suppressed research in the Soviet Union#One-sided take on Soviet science and Talk:Science and technology in the Soviet Union on the need for better coverage of the history of Soviet science. If anybody else wants to help with expansion, I'm certainly up for it. Peter G Werner (talk) 01:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm organizing a Wikipedia:GLAM residence at Brown University's Ladd Observatory in Providence, Rhode Island. The project involves adding images and article improvement for history of science topics relating to astronomy and timekeeping. A draft of the project description is at Outreach:Wikipedian in Residence/Ladd Observatory. Any feedback, suggestions or help spreading the word would be greatly appreciated. --mikeu ^talk 14:33, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

• Germ theory of disease

The article is incredibly small. It needs expansion. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 17:44, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I'll be expanding on the article. Anyone else is free to join in or look at it. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 12:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi all,

Just to let you know that the Natural History Museum in London is advertising for a Wikipedian in Residence, working jointly there and at the Science Museum next door; it's a paid post for four months, and applications are open until 10th February. I've worked with Ed Baker at the NHM to define the scope of the program, and it looks really promising - there's some real opportunities for interesting projects here. Details are available on the National Museums site, and there's some details about other upcoming UK residency programs here.

Please pass this on to anyone who might be interested, and feel free to get in touch with me if you've any questions. Thanks, Andrew Gray (talk) 11:33, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi all,

Just to let you know that the Tyne and Wear Archives and Museums are advertising for a Wikipedian in Residence (announcement). It's a funded post, part-time through spring and early summer, based in Newcastle (so may well suit a student). Applications are open until 4th March. They're particularly interested in the prospect of someone wanting to work with the shipbuilding & industrial history collections, and digitising some of the material they have in their archives.

Details are available on their website, and there's some details about other upcoming UK residency programs here.

Please pass this on to anyone who might be interested, and feel free to get in touch with me if you've any questions! Andrew Gray (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I created a page for Michael Sean Mahoney, historian of science and mathematics. The page could use further input. Tkuvho (talk) 14:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to invite editors interested in the history of biology to comment at the peer review for Parable of the Sunfish: Ezra Pound ponders literary and scientific epistemology by way of 19th C. pre-Darwinist biology. Many thanks, Garamond Lethet
c 18:09, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, I'll give it a look. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi

I'm the Wikimedian in Residence for the Natural History Museum and Science Museum in London. The Science Museum have agreed to release 50 of it's images (at a medium resolution) under a Wikimedia compatible license. The 2 websites that the images would be available from are:

• http://collectionsonline.nmsi.ac.uk/
• http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/ (has to say copyright Science Museum)

I'm hoping this is the start of something larger but could just be a one off so am trying to come up with a most wanted list.

I've started a list of images to release on my talk page, please feel free to add to it, I'd like to get over 50 so if there are any problems we still have a good list.

--Mrjohncummings (talk) 10:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I think it's a little misleading to separate the "East" and the "West" churches before the Great East-West Schism in A.D. 1054. It suggests that before this date the divide existed, when in fact many if not all of the thinkers before 1054 on both "sides" listed in this article would be "claimed" by both Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians. Is it possible to use two colors (red & yellow) for thinkers before the Schism? I know this list has the potential to get more convoluted and I don't mean to nitpick, but it is slightly important.

Just to give an example of one of these guys, Pope Sylvester II is listed as Catholic. That's fine, he was a Bishop of Rome in the West so it's fair to call him "Catholic". However, because he reigned before the Great Schism, Eastern Orthodox Christians also acknowledge him as a valid bishop of Rome who was very much in communion with the East and considered part of their Church (since the East and West were united at that time). So he can really be "claimed" by them as well.

97.65.51.2 (talk) 07:30, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hello, WikiProject History of Science. You are invited to join WikiProject Invention, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of inventions and invention-related topics. To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

There is an ongoing ArbCom request for clarification and amendment concerning the ArbCom's earlier decisions on Pseudoscience. One element of the resulting discussion concerns the recent insertion of a lengthy, critical template on the talk pages of a large number of articles that are categorized as Pseudoscience. Most of these talk pages concern articles providing historical discussions of, but not advocacy of, specific pseudosciences (see e.g., Talk:Flat Earth; Talk:Astrology). Input is welcome from editors who can provide brief reasoned comments on the significance of this template to historical articles. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 21:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

The Royal Society, the UK's science academy, is recruiting a Wikimedian-in-Residence to help them work more closely with Wikipedia. The position is part-time (one day per week) for a fixed term of 6 months. See here for more information and details of how to apply. For additional information please contact me at francis.bacon [AT] royalsociety.org Andeggs (talk) 14:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Ernst Mayr has citation tags and suggestions on the talk page from 2011. Please help. Thanks! Soranoch (talk) 20:36, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Reference (p19-20) has NOTHING to do with the quotation. I do not know how to edit...

Galileo's Leaning Tower of Pisa experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo's_Leaning_Tower_of_Pisa_experiment "According to a biography by Galileo's pupil Vincenzo Viviani, in 1589 the Italian scientist Galileo had dropped two balls of different masses from the Leaning Tower of Pisa to demonstrate that their time of descent was independent of their mass.[1] " [1] ^ Drake, S. (1978). Galileo At Work. University of Chicago Press. pp. 19–20. ISBN 0-226-16226-5.

Google Books Galileo at Work: http://books.google.com/books?id=cHNDo7p7FXQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=isbn:0226162265&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0F9IUqCvBsjH2QWboICABA&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.201.166.153 (talk) 17:39, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

@98.201.166.153: A belated thanks for pointing this out. It turns out that a later edition does contain this information, so I have corrected the citation. RockMagnetist (talk) 21:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Hey All, created Template:Science commemorative events to present some structure and organization about events commemorating scientific achievements. Would greatly appreciate further population to the template or the associated category, Sadads (talk) 15:42, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

I was reading the History of Science for the year 1500 and found a listing for Rifling requesting citation. I did some checking online and found only one site that provided a possible specific reference. It states that some sources claim that rifling was invented by Augustus Kotter of Nuremberg in 1520. No other source gave as specific possible claim. The source seems fairly solid for the subject: http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2010/05/rifling-history.html. Should this be updated with this information and moved to the year 1520? JCO11163 (talk) 02:40, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Please see:

[Section] Request: Subject matter experts with broad understanding of species meaning across Eucarya, Archaea, and Bacteria, a/o expertise in historical development of concept

at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Species

I believe the structure of the article needs to be redesigned so that it reflects current understandings and priorities in the field, and that the quality of the article needs to be addressed to remove systemic issues (redundancy, substandard sourcing/idea appropriation/plagiarism, etc.). I will try to interest John Wilkins in providing some high level guidance [ see http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520271395 ]. In the mean time, thank you for any kind attention by true subject matter experts that might be brought to bear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.179.92.36 (talk) 06:08, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

On 26th February, the Wellcome Library in London is hosting an edit-a-thon event themed around medical history, contemporary medicine and biomedical science in society. This is a free public event, with catering included, supported by Wikimedia UK and Jisc. The editing will take place 11:00 to 16:00 UTC. Follow the link for more information and online sign-up or to suggest pages for us to improve. Apologies if you see this announcement multiple times. MartinPoulter Jisc (talk) 13:48, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Please note that Life sciences, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by Theo's Little Bot at 01:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC) on behalf of the TAFI team

I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt (talk) 03:11, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

As Wikipedian in Residence at the Royal Society, the National Academy for the sciences of the UK, I am pleased to say that the two Royal Society History of Science journals will be fully accessible for free for 2 days on March 4th and 5th. This is in conjunction with the Women in Science Edit-a-thon on 4 March, slightly in advance of International Women's Day, on Saturday March 8th. The event is fully booked, but online participation is very welcome, and suggestions for articles relevant to the theme of "Women in Science" that need work, and topics that need coverage.

The journals will have full and free online access to all from 1am (GMT/UTC) on 4th March 2014 until 11pm (GMT/UTC) on 5th March 2014. Normally they are only free online for issues between 1 and 10 years old. They are:

• Notes and Records: the Royal Society journal of the history of science
• Biographical Memoirs of the Fellows of the Royal Society

The RS position is a "pilot" excercise, running between January and early July 2014. Please let me know on my talk page or the project page if you want to get involved or have suggestions. There will be further public events, as well as many for the RS's diverse audiences in the scientific community; these will be advertised first to the RS's emailing lists and Twitter feeds.

I am keen to get feedback on my personal Conflict of Interest statement for the position, and want to work out a general one for Royal Society staff in consultation with the community. Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 12:17, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

The library at the Royal Society in London are interested in doing something related to any item in their library, in particular something to do with items in their unique collections of manuscripts, personal papers, and other material. They are thinking of items that might be good targets, but any suggestions anyone else has would be very welcome. This might be in conjunction with Wikisource, or not. Please let me know on my talk page. Thanks! Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 18:20, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

As Wikipedian in Residence at the Royal Society, the National Academy for the sciences of the UK, I am again pleased to say that the two Royal Society History of Science journals will be fully accessible for free for 2 days on March 25th and 26th. This is in conjunction with the Diversity in Science Edit-a-thon on 25 March. The event is held by the Royal Society and there are currently a couple of places available, as well as online participation which is very welcome, as are suggestions for articles relevant to the theme of "Diversity in Science" that need work, and topics that need coverage.

The journals will have full and free online access to all from 1am (GMT/UTC) on 25th March 2014 until 11pm (GMT/UTC) on 26th March 2014. Normally they are only free online for issues between 1 and 10 years old. They are:

• Notes and Records: the Royal Society journal of the history of science
• Biographical Memoirs of the Fellows of the Royal Society

The RS position is a "pilot" excercise, running between January and early July 2014. Please let me know on my talk page or the project page if you want to get involved or have suggestions. There will be further public events in May, as well as many for the RS's diverse audiences in the scientific community; these will be advertised first to the RS's emailing lists and Twitter feeds. Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 17:33, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Peer_review/Silent_Spring/archive1

Important book in the history of environmental regulations, history of pesticide usage, and environmentalism. Please offer your assessment of the article. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 13:36, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm delighted to say that the Royal Society, the UK’s National Academy for science, is offering 24 Wikipedians free access for one year to its prestigious range of scientific journals. Please note that much of the content of these journals is already freely available online, the details varying slightly between the journals – see the Royal Society Publishing webpages. For the purposes of this offer the Royal Society's journals are divided into 3 groups: Biological sciences, Physical sciences and history of science. For full details and signing-up, please see the applications page. Initial applications will close on 25 May 2014, but later applications will go on the waiting list. Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 02:46, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Still worth applying here! Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 10:16, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

As Wikimedian in residence at the Royal Society, the UK's National Academy for the Sciences, I'm trying to organize a release of some images in various categories from their Picture Library. One of the categories is historic (out of copyright) natural history books, mainly for the illustrations. Are there particular books or other holdings that people would like to see images from, or particular images? Unfortunately much of what they have is not digitized and much of what is digitized is not presently online at the last link. The main library catalogue search page is here. Before asking, please try to see if decent quality images are not available elsewhere, as they often are, from the Library of Congress etc. This category is different from the obvious 17th-century stuff from the founding generation, and portraits, where I am clearer what to ask for, though please let me know of anything not so obvious that would be useful. Thanks, Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 09:58, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place on the title of this article at Talk:Melancholia#Requested_move. All input welcome. Thank you. ^walk victor falk ^talk 11:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

An RfC Should Tesla's birthplace be changed? has been created. Comments are welcome.- MrX 15:48, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Royal Society a special photo session in the Royal Society Library in London has resulted in Commons:Category:Royal Society Library, with over 50 photos of their treasures, mostly 17th century manuscripts, including several of one of Boyle's notebooks. Please add these as appropriate. Thanks! Wiki at Royal Society John (talk) 22:05, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

The deadline for submissions is 1st July 2014

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to:

Project leaflets
Adikhajuria (talk) 09:40, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

The Template:History_of_science_sidebar is too broad for most articles. I think it works great on the History of Science article, because that article is also very broad. But it does not work on articles that are specific. For instance I just removed it from the history of evolutionary thought page. It could be replaced with a more specific sidebar that is more appropriate for that article.

I am proposing the removal of the sidebar from most articles, and possibly the creation of several more which are more specific.

--Harizotoh9 (talk) 01:36, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Many of the natural sciences do not have history coverage on Wikipedia. That is, for many of them, there is neither an article on the history of the branch, nor a history section in the main article for the branch.

To see which branches do not have history coverage, look for the redlinks at Outline of natural science#History of natural science.     The Transhumanist 02:55, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Dictionary of National Biography/Medics is a new list, around 400 missing biographies of physicians, surgeons and others (emphasis on the UK). Charles Matthews (talk) 15:19, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I am pleased to announce, as Wikimedian in Residence at the Royal Society of Chemistry, the donation of 100 "RSC Gold" accounts, for use by Wikipedia editors wishing to use RSC journal content to expand articles on chemistry-related topics. Please visit Wikipedia:RSC Gold for details, to check your eligibility, and to request an account. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:36, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm an editor for the Embryo Project Encyclopedia and I'm following up on a discussion that you can find here; [1]

I'm looking to connect with the wikimedians who are the main editors of this page, could someone please give me some information on how I could find them? Thank you Page Historian (talk) 21:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, we have had an expert review at Talk:Board of Longitude. ϢereSpielChequers 14:29, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Greetings! For this month's issue...

We have demos!

After a lengthy research and design process, we decided for WikiProject X to focus on two things:

• A WikiProject workflow that focuses on action items: discussions you can participate in and tasks you can perform to improve the encyclopedia; and
• An automatically updating WikiProject directory that gives you lists of users participating in the WikiProject and editing in that subject area.

We have a live demonstration of the new WikiProject workflow at WikiProject Women in Technology, a brand new WikiProject that was set up as an adjunct to a related edit-a-thon in Washington, DC. The goal is to surface action items for editors, and we intend on doing that through automatically updated working lists. We are looking into using SuggestBot to generate lists of outstanding tasks, and we are looking into additional options for automatic worklist generation. This takes the burden off of WikiProject editors to generate these worklists, though there is also a "requests" section for Wikipedians to make individual requests. (As of writing, these automated lists are not yet live, so you will see a blank space under "edit articles" on the demo WikiProject. Sorry about that!) I invite you to check out the WikiProject and leave feedback on WikiProject X's talk page.

Once the demo is sufficiently developed, we will be working on a limited deployment on our pilot WikiProjects. We have selected five for the first round of testing based on the highest potential for impact and will scale up from there.

While a re-designed WikiProject experience is much needed, that alone isn't enough. A WikiProject isn't any good if people have no way of discovering it. This is why we are also developing an automatically updated WikiProject directory. This directory will surface project-related metrics, including a count of active WikiProject participants and of active editors in that project's subject area. The purpose of these metrics is to highlight how active the WikiProject is at the given point of time, but also to highlight that project's potential for success. The directory is not yet live but there is a demonstration featuring a sampling of WikiProjects.

Each directory entry will link to a WikiProject description page which automatically list the active WikiProject participants and subject-area article editors. This allows Wikipedians to find each other based on the areas they are interested in, and this information can be used to revive a WikiProject, start a new one, or even for some other purpose. These description pages are not online yet, but they will use this template, if you want to get a feel of what they will look like.

We need volunteers!

WikiProject X is a huge undertaking, and we need volunteers to support our efforts, including testers and coders. Check out our volunteer portal and see what you can do to help us!

As an aside...

Wouldn't it be cool if lists of requested articles could not only be integrated directly with WikiProjects, but also shared between WikiProjects? Well, we got the crazy idea of having experimental software feature Flow deployed (on a totally experimental basis) on the new Article Request Workshop, which seeks to be a place where editors can "workshop" article ideas before they get created. It uses Flow because Flow allows, essentially, section-level categorization, and in the future will allow "sections" (known as "topics" within Flow) to be included across different pages. What this means is that you have a recommendation for a new article tagged by multiple WikiProjects, allowing for the recommendation to appear on lists for each WikiProject. This will facilitate inter-WikiProject collaboration and will help to reduce duplicated work. The Article Request Workshop is not entirely ready yet due to some bugs with Flow, but we hope to integrate it into our pilot WikiProjects at some point.

Harej (talk) 01:58, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

BAn RFC: Should all discussions and proposals about Nikola Tesla's nationality, ethnicity and country of birth (broadly construed) be limited to the sub-page: Talk:Nikola Tesla/Nationality and ethnicity? has been posted here. Interested editors are invited to comment.- MrX 20:56, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

The usage and topic of Latin is under discussion, see talk:Latin -- 67.70.32.20 (talk) 05:03, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

It would be great if folks could comment as to whether this article currently meets FA criteria at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Georg Forster/archive1. cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Template:Cite doi allows editors to generate a citation from a digital object identifier. There is a discussion about whether to deprecate this template. Since doi's are used the sciences and this is a science WikiProject, I am inviting anyone here to comment. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:26, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

FYI, there is a suggestion to merge the history of science and history of technology category trees, see WP:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_September_12#Science_and_technology -- 70.51.202.113 (talk) 05:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Chicago Pile-1; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 04:31, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

A few more editors are needed to complete the A-Class review for Nike-X; please stop by and help review the article! Thanks! AustralianRupert (talk) 04:31, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

I seem to have bitten off a bit more than I can chew in creating {{Isaac Newton}}. Are there any experts on the relevant subjects that could help to sensibly organize the template.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:59, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

• I have cobbled together what I can for this template. It would help to have eyes on it. It would likely benefit from rearranging by an expert.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:18, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

• I would suggest moving the Newtonianism section to the top, as that is what he is "most notable" for. The publications are details supporting the notability, but the articles about the philosophy give a more general introduction and context to his ideas. Articles like Newton's law of universal gravitation are more welcoming to someone unfamiliar with his work than the more difficult Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica. I would also be tempted to put Discoveries and Inventions second, with Publications following that. The order of links within each section feels a bit chaotic and I had difficulty finding some topics. It could be alphabetically organized, possibly with the more important subjects highlighted at the start of the list. But there should be some consistency. Is there a style guide for these sorts of templates? As an aside, Newtonianism is prominently linked but is a rather incomplete stub. I tagged it as part of this project and will into improving it. I didn't check to see how complete the template coverage is. --mikeu ^talk 18:59, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

"Ancient technology" seems to have started as a dab page, and now duplicates material found in "Prehistoric technology" and "History of technology", which are much better articles. I've started a discussion at Talk:Prehistoric technology about this. Doug Weller talk 15:01, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

There are a few outbreak-related WP:RM discussions going on.

• Talk:1854 Broad Street cholera outbreak#Requested move 26 January 2016
• Talk:2014–15 West and Central African cholera outbreak#Requested move 26 January 2016
• Talk:Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa#Requested move 26 January 2016
• Talk:First cholera pandemic (1817–24)#Requested move 26 January 2016
• Talk:Zika virus outbreak in Brazil (2015–present)#Requested move 25 January 2016

Feedback would be welcome! larryv (talk) 04:01, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

This month:

Development of the extension for setting up WikiProjects, as described in the last issue of this newsletter, is currently underway. No terribly exciting news on this front.

In the meantime, we are working on a prototype for a new service we hope to announce soon. The problem: there are requests scattered all across Wikipedia, including requests for new articles and requests for improvements to existing articles. We Wikipedians are very good at coming up with lists of things to do. But once we write these lists, where do they end up? How can we make them useful for all editors—even those who do not browse the missing articles lists, or the particular WikiProjects that have lists?

Introducing Wikipedia Requests, a new tool to centralize the various lists of requests around Wikipedia. Requests will be tagged by category and WikiProject, making it easier to find requests based on what your interests are. Accompanying this service will be a bot that will let you generate reports from this database on any wiki page, including WikiProjects. This means that once a request is filed centrally, it can syndicated all throughout Wikipedia, and once it is fulfilled, it will be marked as "complete" throughout Wikipedia. The idea for this service came about when I saw that it was easy to put together to-do lists based on database queries, but it was harder to do this for human-generated requests when those requests are scattered throughout the wiki, siloed throughout several pages. This should especially be useful for WikiProjects that have overlapping interests.

The newsletter this month is fairly brief; not a lot of news, just checking in to say that we are hard at work and hope to have more for you soon.

Until next time,

Harej (talk) 01:44, 24 February 2016 (UTC)