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Primary and secondary schools

Bangladesh Railway Government Chandraprabha Vidyapitha

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There was no consensus to delete this in 2014 or 2015. Following a February 2017 RFC, secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist, which until then was a main argument for keeping this. All schools are subject to the notability guidelines. Searches in English and Bengali found nothing that would demonstrate notability, nothing more substantial than inclusion in government lists of schools and passing mentions. Redirection to Paksey, where the school is located, is a possibile alternative to deletion. Worldbruce (talk) 12:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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SMK Lembah Subang

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Unreferenced for 16 years and fails WP:NSCHOOL for lack of coverage. Since last AfD we now do not grant inherent notability to high schools. LibStar (talk) 00:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems to have won some awards, but haven't found any in-depth coverage. CMD (talk) 07:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ave Maria International Academy

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There's nothing to indicate that this school meets the notability guideline. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nom. Sources I see are mere directories. Best, Reading Beans 14:09, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Topline Schools

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Couldn't locate any reliable source mentioning this school, theres no indication that this subject is notable enough for an article. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete : Per nominator reason.--7G🍁 (🪓) 11:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. Reading Beans 14:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

De World International Secondary School

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Barely any coverage in reliable sources. This article fails to meet the notability criteria set by WP:NSCHOOL. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:17, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete : Per nominator reason.--7G🍁 (🪓) 11:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. Non-notable school. Best, Reading Beans 14:12, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Emarid College

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, no significant coverage in any reliable source. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Subject is notable enough to stand alone per WP:SIGCOV and WP:NSCHOOL Tesleemah (talk) 08:52, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a "not" missing there? i.e. "not notable enough..."? Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Searches come up with some passing mentions, including a couple of mentions in books by people educated there ([1] and [2]). These certainly do not meet SIGCOV. There is very little else. Almost no newspaper coverage. Passing mention in a few papers, such as [3], but again, no SIGCOV. Google turns up a little more, but then the information is not independent and primary. The school website is the best source of information, and has quite a detailed history [4] but this is primary and not independent. It can't count towards GNG. What we do learn from the web page is that the role is about 300 children from nursery to A level. This, then, is a relatively young school - over 30 years old but that is still not that old for a school, and it is a very small one. As a rule of thumb I would not expect a school of this size and age to be notable without some significant and particular factors (famous events, documentary, famous students, notable founding etc.) I see no evidence of any such, and what I have found does not meet GNG. Although I would usually suggest a redirect for a school, non notable Port Harcourt schools have no suitable redirect target. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:09, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete : Per nominator reason.--7G🍁 (🪓) 11:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. Non-notable school. Best, Reading Beans 14:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Loretto School of Childhood

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There's zero coverage about this school, not even passing mentions in any source.[5]. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Subject is notable enough to stand alone per WP:SIGCOV and WP:NSCHOOL Tesleemah (talk) 23:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete : Per nominator reason.--7G🍁 (🪓) 11:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. Non-notable school. Best, Reading Beans 14:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Emilio Piazza Memorial School

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Fails WP:NSCHOOL. I did a WP:BEFORE search and could only locate 2 sources making a passing mention of this school[6][7], not enough to establish notability. Ratnahastin (talk) 14:58, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Subject is notable enough to stand alone per WP:SIGCOV and WP:NSCHOOL Tesleemah (talk) 23:14, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete : Per nominator reason.--7G🍁 (🪓) 11:20, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. Non-notable school. Available sources does not meet the criteria for organisations. Best, Reading Beans 14:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tantua International Group of Schools

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Fails to satisfy the notability guideline for schools, the sources cited here are unacceptable and the only okay source I could find is an interview with one of its alumni who only makes a passing mention [8]. There's no significant coverage about this school. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:10, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The school lacks significant impact to make her notable, nothing here except they are founded by Ebikebina Tantua II who I can't find article for on Wikipedia as well Tesleemah (talk) 23:18, 12 October 2024 (UTC)<[reply]
Delete : Per nominator reason.--7G🍁 (🪓) 11:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ramu Cantonment Public School and College

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Article lacks significant independent coverage and relies heavily on primary sources, primarily promotional material and local news. Without substantial third-party references, the article does not meet WP:GNG. Nxcrypto Message 11:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lalmonirhat Cantonment Public School And College

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The article lacks significant independent coverage and relies primarily on promotional material and local news sources. It fails to meet WP:GNG as there is absence of third-party references to substantiate its relevance. Nxcrypto Message 12:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Lalmonirhat Cantonment (the location of the institution) where it is listed, as an alternative to deletion. A job circular, indiscriminate lists/databases (List of Army School and College, Masters Admission, Sohopathi), a brief mention as winner in a primary school dance contest, and the school website do not add up to the significant coverage in independent sources that would establish notability. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:49, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rajshahi Cantonment Board School And College

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The article reliance on promotional content and local news also it does not fulfill WP:GNG. Nxcrypto Message 12:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Rajshahi Cantonment (the location of the institution) where it is listed, as an alternative to deletion. Inclusion in lists of various examination centers, a passing mention of the "a student of ..." sort, the school website, and indiscriminate databases are not the stuff that can demonstrate notability. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:35, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Universities and colleges

New Zealand College of Business

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Cannot find any independent secondary coverage to satisfy NCORP. Current refs are not independent or are promotional. Article was created by an SPA. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:38, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dar es Salaam School of Journalism

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Fails WP:NORG and WP:ORGCRIT. I couldn't find multiple reliable sources, which are independent and address the organisation in depth and in detail. TarnishedPath^talk 05:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hindu University of America

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This institution is unaccredited, and SCHOOLOUTCOMES#2 cannot apply. Thus, it needs to pass the stringent WP:NORG, which it does not — there is no significant coverage of the subject in multiple reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. TrangaBellam (talk) 21:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Per nomination. Doesn't meet notability, fails WP:SIGCOV. Ratekreel (talk) 23:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organization. Poor sources on the page with no significant coverage. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 11:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've expanded the article by adding several references, including to a fairly in-depth profile in the Orlando Sentinel, and to a book by a sociologist who describes the emergence of the university and calls it a "milestone". Notability is arguably established, and even if it isn't, more references with nontrivial material can be found. One of the primary purposes of notability guidelines is to ensure that there is sufficient material to create an informative article, and there is clearly enough published material on this university (even though one might wish for more so that an even meatier article would be possible). For further expansion, there just needs to be effort put in to tap that material and integrate it into the article. --Presearch (talk) 23:19, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Have you noted that this "fairly in-depth profile" has no author? So, no — an advertorial (churnalism) in a local newspaper does NOT add toward notability.

Notability is arguably established, and even if it isn't, more references with nontrivial material can be found This article is at AfD because I (and others) believe that notability is not established and I am happy to see you accept that. Regrettably, we cannot speculate about sourcing esp. that we are discussing an organization in USA and not, say, Sudan! Further, WP:NEXIST cautions, However, once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface.

It's not my case that no sources exist — 1 and 2 from among the very few hits in Newspapers.com — but that they are trivial and/or they are routine run-of-the-mill coverage. TrangaBellam (talk) 07:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added several more sources, all with named authors, and arguably all from reliable sources. All of these provide "more than a trivial mention," and in some cases the university was indeed "the main topic of the source material", so each of these arguably contributes "significant coverage" for meeting general notability (WP:GNG)

Regarding the Orlando Sentinel article, that may now be moot, but it's worth noting that the newspaper is reputable, and the userfied (non-Wikipedia) essay on "churnalism" acknowledges that "If a reliable source decides to fact check a press release and write a story about it, it then meets the definition of coming from a reliable source" - that raises the question of whether an absence of named author is enough grounds to treat this article as unreliable when it's from an otherwise reputable source (have you found any duplicate versions of the same material on numerous sites?). (By the way, friend, I suspect you know that a statement that something "is arguably established" is different than stating that it is "not established") --Presearch (talk) 01:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"News India Times" is not even a RS in all probabilities. And, a couple of articles in India Abroad — a now-defunct publication aimed exclusively at the Indian diaspora with a peak circulation of ~ thirty thousand — do not make the entity wiki-notable; if anything, such meager coverage in such a niche publication only goes to demonstrate the non-notability.

Further, NCORP has a higher standard for sources to contribute toward notability. This is due to the levels of (undisclosed; see WP:TOI) paid-coverage frequently engaged in by business entities. So, we look for sources that do not mechanically reproduce what the organization says and show some critical engagement. TrangaBellam (talk) 05:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know whether it's just a republished press release or not, but just because a newspaper is small, defunct, or aimed at a particular audience does not mean that it is not reliable as a source. Besides, 30,000 people is a large number. If there's any good reason to believe that it is not an RS or is a press release, then I see your point, but just size does not disqualify sources. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:30, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning keep. I get 290 hits on Newspapers.com, including the fairly substantial Mark I. Pinsky, "School of Thought: Hindu University begins journey in teaching... with a degree of karma", The Hilton Head Island Packet (July 3, 2004), p. 1-C, 3-C, and Amy Limbert, "Kuldip Gupta, 66, helped found, lead Hindu University of America", The Orlando Sentinel (February 9, 2007), p. B6. Also, "Hinduism: Studying the ancients", The Atlanta Constitution (September 28, 1996), p. G4; "Beavercreek: Online Hindu classes", Dayton Daily News (January 9, 2021), p. B3. BD2412 T 01:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Doesn't meet notability, fails WP:SIGCOV. Plus the clash between editors about it being promo (see history) makes me uneasy. The Banner talk 14:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Source listing:

https://www.rediff.com/news/2007/nov/20ia.htm -- Rediff -- author unspecified -- significant coverage -- does not seem like a press release
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/varanasi/Prez-of-US-vedic-univ-visits-BHU/articleshow/4928958.cms -- Times of India -- probably republished press release
https://www.hindustantimes.com/education/news/indianamerican-entrepreneur-donates-usd-1m-to-hindu-university-of-america-101680149211128.html -- Hindustan Times -- author unspecified -- unclear if press release?
https://www.proquest.com/docview/2810929379/ -- Hindustan Times, very old -- inaccessible
https://search.worldcat.org/title/60630626?oclcNum=60630626 -- also inaccessible
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2002/02/09/a-foundation-for-learning-understanding-2/ -- Orlando Sentinel -- author unspecified -- very significant coverage, clearly not a press release
https://search.worldcat.org/search?q=n2:1071-0248 -- Inaccessible News India Times, possibly a press release
https://search.worldcat.org/issn/0046-8932 -- Inaccessible India Abroad
https://books.google.com/books?id=DxneawQ8sKQC -- published book -- "Two other milestones during this period were the establishment of a Hindu University of America in Florida and..." -- cited as having a significant description of it
https://web.archive.org/web/20210613071213/https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/haryana/special-session-on-bhagavad-gita-188605 -- it's just a news article happening to have a quote from the university president

So the book, the Orlando Times article, and the Rediff article seem like good sources, even if the latter two have no author listed for some reason. The book seems to think it is significant in the history of what it recounts.

Voting Keep in absence of these sources being discredited, because those three are good. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

School or university organisations proposed for deletion

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools

Primary and secondary schools

Bangladesh Railway Government Chandraprabha Vidyapitha

SMK Lembah Subang

Ave Maria International Academy

Topline Schools

De World International Secondary School

Emarid College

Loretto School of Childhood

Emilio Piazza Memorial School

Tantua International Group of Schools

Ramu Cantonment Public School and College

Lalmonirhat Cantonment Public School And College

Rajshahi Cantonment Board School And College

Universities and colleges

New Zealand College of Business

Dar es Salaam School of Journalism

Hindu University of America

Other school or university articles

OKS Turkey

Faculty of Engineering, ÇOMÜ

School or university organisations proposed for deletion