Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aguike

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Ignoring the banned sock(s), there is no objection to deletion. WP:G5 also applies here, which is why this isn't a soft delete. Owen× ☎ 12:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aguike

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and it has no enough reliable and secondary sources to meet the requirement for WP:GNG Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Nigeria. Shellwood (talk) 11:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I personally re-edited the 'AGUIKE' article when it was originally written. However, I must caution that there are those who parade themselves as editors on this platform who have altered and stripped the entire article, leaving it almost empty. These 'editors' have become obsessed with this article, making edits to create a void and then sending emails to the author asking for money to write a proper article. The author shared those emails with me. If there is one Nigerian musician who should be on Wikipedia, it is the man who now goes by the name 'AGUIKE'. He should be among the top ten. During his time in Nigeria, media houses did not have an online database. But if you google the man's name, there is enough evidence of his contributions to the entertainment industry and his accomplishments. Please remove the delete tag on this article. Tamarlewis (talk) 12:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamarlewis: How do you know Newyorkgm? If you received emails asking for money, please forward them to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org. C F A 💬 21:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is it coincidence that @Tamarlewis and @Newyorkgm are having the same issues (removing maintenance tags and talking about people messaging them for payment) as documented on their talk page as a reply to @Shellwood and @CFA. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure. But it is suspicious. Tamarlewis and Newyorkgm, do you have any comment? C F A 💬 14:17, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do have better things to do with my time. I shared series of emails sent to me by various people parading as 'Editors'. It will soon be in public domain when all this is over. I don't know who to trust. Newyorkgm (talk) 18:35, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you forward them to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org? C F A 💬 18:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to reach out to you about the recent developments regarding the article "AGUIKE." It's frustrating to hear that after making all the necessary adjustments and receiving approval, you now want to delete the article. It makes me question the authenticity of this platform and the decision-making process.

If you don't mind, could you please send me a private email address so I can share my concerns with you directly? I believe this issue needs to be addressed promptly before any further actions are taken.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon. Newyorkgm (talk) 19:00, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are free to comment in this discussion if you believe the article should be kept. The community will decide if the topic is notable. Emailing is not going to change anything. C F A 💬 19:14, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CFA, this address 'en-wp@wikipedia.org' is invalid. Tamarlewis (talk) 19:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org" is the correct address. C F A 💬 19:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The above discussion may indicate fraud that violates Wikipedia policy, but it means little for the musician's notability. This guy hasn't helped his cause by performing under at least four names: Aguike, Allah-Bama, Saint Alabama, Emma Agu. All have appeared in the usual Nigerian gossip rags that look like legit music media but actually just reprint press releases. This can be seen in non-critical prose that was clearly written by the musician or his managers, such as "Youths across the globe are already dancing to Wajo (dance) which is his latest musical offering" ([1]) or "He’s credited to possess exceptional skills in reading musical notes and mastering various instruments" ([2]). If he's really as influential and classic as the article says, more reliable news outlets would have reported on it. Otherwise this article is an attempted resume for his organizational endeavors. He also did not headline Obama's inauguration; instead he was at an unaffiliated event that talked about the inauguration. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Liar. The piece you have written here is nothing but character assassination and extremely unprofessional, to say the least. As an editor, you should not diminish individuals who have worked hard in different endeavors. You have access to visit the artist's personal website at www.aguike.com.

You also alleged that he did not headline the Inaugural ball. It is important to do proper research before spreading misinformation about others. See-[3]https://allafrica.com/stories/200901120544.html. The person known as AGUIKE is actually Emma Agu, and more information can be found at [4]https://aguike.com/aguike-explains-the-reason-for-change-of-name-by-franz-dickson/.

Please ensure that your facts are correct before tarnishing the reputation of a true Nigerian legend. You are free to criticize newspapers or use whatever language you prefer, but please do so responsibly. Newyorkgm (talk) 17:28, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Doomsdayer520@Ibjaja055

As you persist with your conspiracy and efforts to discredit Aguike, it is important to note that between 1996 and 2001, the artist gained widespread attention in Nigeria, as evidenced by headlines in prominent Nigerian newspapers. He later relocated to New York City. Please refer to the publication that features him alongside Sunny Ade and Onyeka Onwenu.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sunny_Ade_and_Emma_Agu.jpg

[[File:Aguike-alias allah b Newyorkgm (talk) 17:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Newyorkgm Nobody is discrediting and no one is doing any conspiracy. Be mindful of the way you address other editors. Notability is not enforced and there is difference between independent publication in reliable media and puffy piece. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Doomsdayer520@CFA

Various factors necessitate why many musicians opt to rebrand themselves. Did you really refer to reputable publications like The Guardian, @This Day The Nation, Leadership, and Vanguard Newspapers as "Nigerian gossip rags"? Some Nigerian musicians living abroad choose to stay out of the spotlight and focus on their musical careers. Consider removing the article and refrain from criticizing the artist. Keeping the article on Wikipedia will not impact the artist's overall reputation or success. Tamarlewis (talk) 19:42, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Guardian and Vanguard are both known for publishing undisclosed promotional content. C F A 💬 22:32, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CFA"The Guardian and Vanguard are both known for publishing undisclosed promotional content"?

You have exposed your true self. I do not have time for this unnecessary back and forth. I wrote an article that was not promotional, yet you became obsessed with it and stripped the entire content, leaving it naked. You are nothing but a bunch of scam artists. Newyorkgm (talk) 22:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CFA@Doomsdayer520@Ibjaja055@Shellwood

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Ritik On 2024-05-28 16:36, allah Bama wrote:

Are you indirectly telling me that the language used in this Wikipedia article of AGUIKE is not simple and well-detailed? If so, why should my organization publish this article on another Wikipedia page?

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 4:41 AM Wikipedia Page Creation <ritik.singh@idigitalakki.com> wrote:

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On 2024-05-27 22:21, allah Bama wrote:

Thanks for your reply, it appears the current article got accepted. Pls check and let me know then we will take it from there.

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On 2024-05-25 04:53, allah Bama wrote:

How much?

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IDigitalakki Pvt Ltd Newyorkgm (talk) 22:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CFA@Doomsdayer520@Ibjaja055@Shellwood@Tamarlewis

When all of your attempts to make some quick cash failed, you placed the article in "Deletion." You are turning this platform into a huge joke, and I will make sure that this becomes a major public issue. Please delete it. Newyorkgm (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Response from one of accused: Huh? ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 01:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CFA@Doomsdayer520@Doomsdayer520@Ibjaja055@Newyorkgm@Shellwood

I am a journalist based in Edmonton, Canada. When I first saw this article, I took my time to rewrite it because I happen to know the artist. I attended his concert in 2011 when he headlined the African Music Festival in Edmonton. Aguike happens to be a very private individual who rarely does interviews. I'm sure that if he knows his profile is on Wikipedia, he will ask his publicist to take it down. With all due respect, some of your observations and criticisms are beyond what any professional would expect. The man has been on stage for 30 years, and if you happen not to know him or have issues with the fact that he keeps changing his name, maybe that's his style. Let us maintain some decorum here.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aguike,alias_allah_bama.jpg Tamarlewis (talk) 11:51, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ Newyorkgm you can forward your complaints to the email provided by @CFA. The issue being discussed here is the notability of the subject. If the subject is notable, it will definitely be on Wikipedia either now or later. You have been wrongfully accusing other editors, you need to be polite with your words, it might lead to Casting aspersions on other editors. Calling other editors Liar too are not acceptable. please be polite. A lot of people are out there who send messages like this. You need to ignore them and the nomination for deletion has nothing to do with people messaging you for fee.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.