Talk:Valentina Tereshkova/GA1

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Reviewer: Maile66 (talk · contribs) 22:58, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• I will be doing this review. — Maile (talk) 22:58, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   • "Soviet Air Force" should probably be linked, but not sure which one this applies to: Soviet Air Defence Forces or Soviet Air Forces, if there is an applicable link available.
     • Linked to Soviet Air Forces. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
   • Is "Soviet–Finnish War" same as Winter War? If so, please link.
     • Winter War is already mentioned and linked so I replaced "Soviet–Finnish War" with "Winter War". --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
   •  Question: - @PlanespotterA320: Clarification needed, please. You just added text that contains "...and not be from a race deemed "traitorous" during the Stalin era." I have no idea what that "race" would be, nor do I know who were the allies and foes during that era. Possibly only scholars of that era know. — Maile (talk) 22:36, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   @Maile66: People from the deported ethnic groups (Chechens, Ingushes, Kalmyks, Crimean Tatars, Karachays, and Balkars) were forbidden from entering the cosmonaut program and travelling to space unless they were individually pardoned of their ethnic status by decree of the Central Committee (ex, if they could prove that their biological father was someone else). A Chechen woman pilot, Lyalya Nasukhanova, applied to join the cosmonaut program four times; but despite the support of other cosmonauts for Nasukhanova to join the program (including Bergovoy) she was never allowed to enter the cosmonaut program - even though the was just a small child during WWII when the Chechen people were accused of treason. If there was not the rule against спецпоселенцы being in the program, I highly doubt a Tereshkova would have gone to space considering that Nasukhanova was more qualified and a jet pilot in addition to parachutist. Either way, the exclusion of Nasukhanova from the program CERTAINLY increased Tereshkova's chances of getting to space.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 00:32, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   @PlanespotterA320: The sentence will be OK, if you could add the first sentence from your explanation above to the "Notes" section of the article.— Maile (talk) 00:49, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   @PlanespotterA320: Does the source you cite actually mention Tereshkova? Can you please quote from it here? Please remember this is a WP:BLP. Per WP:NOR, To demonstrate that you are not adding OR, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented. Please demonstrate how the source directly relates to Tereshkova. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 08:05, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   @PlanespotterA320: The one source I mentioned just mentions Nasukhanova and the racial exclusion policy. I can provide other sources about the relation of it to Tereshkova. For the source about Tereshkova being picked for her having the socially ideal background, the source is "women aviators" by Bernard Marck, pages 214 and 216.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 14:07, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   PlanespotterA320, mentioning that she was chosen because of "having the socially ideal background" seems more ideal than going on a tangetial about "traitorous" races. Can you do that instead? I am a bit busy right now but I can do it later.

   The rest should either go on the page about Nasukhanova or the one on the Soviet space program instead of this BLP. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 14:35, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   The requirement to not be a спецпоселенцы is perfectly relevant for the listing of the requirements for the potential canidate.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 15:17, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   Any source that does not mention Tereshkova has no place here and we would be abusing WP:SYNTHESIS to include it here. Bringing together sources that do not mention Tereshkova to even imply a conclusion is original analysis which is not permitted on WP, especially on a BLP. Please quote the entire sentence or paragraph you are referencing. I have no difficulty translating Russian. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 15:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   • Lead section does not need citations. Please move the sourcing into the body.
     • Done. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
   • Inconsistency on source formatting style. Please see John Glenn as an example. All books should be under "Sources" section, while the citations that point to them should be inline.
     • Took care of this, will take care of the bullet point below tomorrow. Kees08 (Talk) 07:32, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   • Kees08 You might want to add User:Ucucha/HarvErrors to your common.js. It will show you referencing errors in big red letters. What I am seeing is "Harv error: link from CITEREFTereshkova2003 doesn't point to any citation." and "Harv error: link from CITEREFKoli2018 doesn't point to any citation." I fixed the Koli2008 error for you, but I don't see where Tereshkoa2003 is. — Maile (talk) 10:56, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   • Where have you been all my life? Thanks. I usually just clicked a random smattering to make sure they worked. Kees08 (Talk) 16:38, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   • Fixed. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:27, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

   • Both External links and Further reading, standardize formatting, and shuffle to alpha listing
     • Done, except still needs alphabetized and I induced a date error. @Coffeeandcrumbs: could you address? I am out of time to edit right now. Kees08 (Talk) 17:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
   • Move from External links to Further reading: Bank of the Universe, Sergey Pavlovich Korolyov – The Genius of the 20th Century, Encyclopedia of life and creativity
     • Done. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
   • Move from Further reading to External links: "First woman in space" at History.com
     • Done. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 13:19, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Note: Coffeeandcrumbs There are multiple tags requiring page numbers for books.

   • Under Selection and Training, with the sentence that ends, "... and confirmed her selection."
   • Under Personal life, in the sentence about the birth of her daughter.
   • Under Legacy, the sentence that ends, "... account of her career as a cosmonaut." — Maile (talk) 14:37, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

     Maile66, I think I took care of everything. Please don't hesitate to ask for anything else. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 20:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

3. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

4. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   • 15 13 images are used in this article, and one navbox image, are appropriately licensed, and suitably captioned, or are otherwise not under copyright. Of these, 8 7 are licensed for use through Commons:RIA Novosti: (1) January 1963 image; (2) Tereshkova and Valery Bykovsky ; (3) With Kruschev; (4) Tereshkova's wedding photo; (5) Tereshkova in uniform; (6) Tereshkova with Neil Armstrong (7) Tereshkova with delegates; (8) Valentina Tereshkova visiting the Lvov confectionery

   • Infobox image – Permission granted by a letter from Press Secretary for the President of the Russian Federation

   • Vostok 6 capsule (flown 1964). Photographed at the Science Museum, London, March 2016, licensed to Commons by the photographer

   • Tereshkova with Angela Davis, provided through Commons:Bundesarchiv by German Federal Archives

   • Tereshkova 2010 at NASA, image provided by NASA

   • South Korean President Moon Jae-in in the Russian State Duma 2018 – Attribution 4.0 international agreement license

   • 1963 Russian postage stamp with image of Tereshkova – not a copyrighted image

   • Vintage Soviet era Russian doll celebrating Valentina Tereshkova – licensed by the author

   • Navbox image is not under copyright

5. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   Coffeeandcrumbs The only remaining issues are the 3 tagged for page numbers above. Everything else looks good. — Maile (talk) 15:07, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]