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Can't find a source for the 1930 opening date, so I'm reverting it back to 1932. Here's the source I found for the opening date: [1]. If someone can find something more official, that would be suuuuper. RADICALBENDER ★ 03:56, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

Any source on the schools confirming the move away from the Cotton Bowl? I had heard the idea has been strongly considered but not confirmed. --Wootonius 11:05, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

if the stadium open in 1932 how could smu football starting playing there in 1929Smith03 13:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Contradiction

The Article contradicts itself. It first says that the Red River Shoot Out is moving in 2009, then it says they've agreed to stay until 2015. If someone knows the truth, they should fix it....

Prismina 06:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC) Prismina[reply]

Seating

In the 1st paragraph the article says the stadium has 68,252 seats but later on it is said that there are plans to increase the seating from 76,00 to 92,000. Which is the correct figure? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omnisvalidus (talk • contribs) 14:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updated Stadium Pictures?

The stadium has gone through changes in the past year and the seating has been upgraded (i.e. the upper deck now stretches all the way around the bowl). Can some the Texas members please upload some of these newer pictures? RIPLIUKANG (talk) 18:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

seating

the stadium is now a complete bowl, it seats 92000 people now, i was just there today 1957belair (talk) 05:11, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Red River Rivalry

Will the games be played in the new cowboys stadium in Arlington from now on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.213.101 (talk) 20:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. No consensus that the stadium is the primary topic here. Jafeluv (talk) 08:01, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cotton Bowl (stadium) → Cotton Bowl — The stadium article originally was Cotton Bowl (stadium), while the college football bowl game article was colloquially titled Cotton Bowl (game) instead of the accurate name of Cotton Bowl Classic, where the bowl game article is today. I have redirected links and edited pages to fix the Cotton Bowl Classic article move and now want to do the same with the stadium and its proper name. NThomas (talk) 18:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. "Cotton Bowl" commonly refers to the game, at least as much as it refers to the stadium. Therefore, the stadium is not the primary topic. — AjaxSmack 01:31, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The number of events year-round that utilize the stadium and its name "Cotton Bowl" outnumber the instances the annual bowl game does. I see no reason why Template:Distinguish wouldn't suffice if the move goes through. NThomas (talk) 03:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, there are a number of events at the stadium but these are not as notable as the Cotton Bowl Classic and I doubt anyone referring to, say, the State Fair Classic would say "I hope Grambling State wins in the Cotton Bowl this year." The stadium as Cotton Bowl is important but isn't the primary topic. — AjaxSmack 02:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - That's a poor example. Using in and not at completely changes the sentence's structure. "I hope Grambling State wins in the Cotton Bowl this year." is a completely different sentence then I hope Grambling State wins at the Cotton Bowl this year." Also, I would argue that the Cotton Bowl Classic isn't as notable as stadium because of all the other events that take place at the bowl game's namesake. Look at 2008's Nielson Ratings, the Texas-OU game brought in more viewers then the bowl game. (Red River Rivalry's 5.2[2] vs. the Cotton Bowl Classic's 4.3[3]). The game only occurs annually where the stadium is used year round with events that dwarf the number of attendees at the bowl game. As the bowl game's name sake, the name Cotton Bowl is used more for events then the bowl game's use as the title colloquially. For precision's sake, the stadium, not the bowl game which is already disambiguated with its name including "Classic", is the primary topic. NThomas (talk) 05:13, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As this disambiguation page has been around (i.e. neither has been at the plain title) so long there's some value in looking at page view stats. These suggest that the game is getting 5-6000 hits per month and the stadium 6-7000. This on it's own suggests to me there's no primary topic but when you consider that around game time the game gets many more hits (approx 30,000 for the game to 15,000 for the stadium in December and January) I think it's clear that page view stats support no primary topic. Additionally, although anecdotal evidence, as a British person reasonably interested in American football I had heard of the game but was not aware of it also being a stadium (although I'd have probably made that assumption if I'd had to). Dpmuk (talk) 11:55, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Heck, I'm American and didn't know that. (Though I knew it about the Rose Bowl.) Powers ^T 15:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unsure. I am very sympathetic to the claims of their being no primary topic, but we only have two things to disambiguate. If someone searching for Cotton Bowl gets sent to the disambiguation page, they're one click away from the article they wanted to read. On the other hand, if you send them to the stadium article, then the stadium-searchers are happy immediately, and the game-searchers are no worse off; they still are only one click away from the article. That said, though, there is a concern that people writing other articles may link to Cotton Bowl thinking they're linking the game but actually linking the stadium; in that case, it's easier to detect the mistake if we have a disambiguation page. Powers ^T 15:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Aerosmith

I wasn't sure about the line, 'Aerosmith filmed their first live concert there in the late 1980s'.

If it's referring to the Texxas Jam, that was '78 wasn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.159.128.21 (talk) 09:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

Something more needs to be included about how the stadium's name was changed. J. Curtis Sanford (yet another Dallas oilman) attended the Rose Bowl game between SMU and Stanford on Jan 1st, 1936 and decided Dallas could support a bowl game, too. So he campaigned successfully to get the name of Fair Park Stadium changed to "Cotton Bowl" and then bankrolled the playoff game himself for the first several years until it caught on with the public. (Lamar Hunt, age four, attended the first Cotton Bowl game on Jan 1st, 1937, as a matter of fact.) All of this is well-known fact (if you're retirement age and come from Dallas) but I frankly don't have the time to chase down the sources for it. --Michael K Smith^Talk 20:47, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Roller Hockey Championship played in the early 1970s

My husband played roller hockey back in the early 70s and actually played in a tournament/championship game at the Cotton Bowl. I'm wondering if there are any archived photos or film from that time. I'd love to be able to find something for him from when he was there. He said it was filmed by a local station but can't remember which one. Any information would be great. I can be reached at sarah@splashdesigns.com 70.176.93.65 (talk) 00:58, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]